The Tubes and The Stranglers

Snow Dog wrote: Certif1ed wrote:   Even "No More Heroes" (from "Rattus Norwegicus", their first album)   *cough*   Actually its from the album of the same title "No More Heroes".....The second album....*cough*....thanks.

Edited by Certif1ed - May 20 2007 at 12:18

Certif1ed wrote:   Even "No More Heroes" (from "Rattus Norwegicus", their first album)

Moogtron III wrote: Well, if the Tubes come in, Split Enz has to come in. No, just joking, but I remember both bands had this theatrical side. Both bands had pictures in my school agenda (RIJAM) when I was at high school and I thought both looked very strange. I never would have imagined that years later I would be listening to albums by both The Tubes and Split Enz.   I like the Don't Touch Me There single the best, I think. It was some sort of parody, I suppose, but it worked out very well. Very good band.

Split Enz is in, the discography just has to be completed.

^^^^

"progressive ideas" .... yeah, they were a pretty inventive bunch in those days ... their big hit "White Punks On Dope" easily fits the Prog bill .... my favourite album is the live "What Do You Want From Live" ... not a bad song on it and I love their rendition of "I Saw Her Standing There" amongst others... my only regret was not seeing them perform on that tour of UK ... they were banned in my area ... sadly, many authorities thought the band's theatrical stage show was unsuitable for us delicate flowers  

erik neuteboom wrote:   Well fellow progheads, since M@X  his 'The Beatles addition move' this site is no longer about progressive rock but about music with progressive tendencies, it would be better to change the name into Prog Music Archives. And in my opinion The Tubes and The Stranglers match with Art-rock with their music in the late Seventies and in The Eighties. Or ... ?

I think the inclusion of the Beatles is justified as you can find some of the seeds of prog on albums such as Revolver, Sgt Pepper & the White Album.  The Tubes & Stranglers may have been influenced by prog, and their music may contain prog elements, but I don't see that alone as justification for their inclusion.

On a side note, punk purists also argue as to whether the Stranglers were really a punk band or not.

Snow Dog wrote: I can hear some Prog influence in The Stranglers, but feel uncomfortable with their addition. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I would be happy for both to be added.Both had strong progressive ideas IMO..

Hm, well, i didn't offend anybody, did i? You being so touchy, i'll just pull myself outta here...

Oh gawd!? Come on, Television? XTC?? Split Enze???? I love all of those bands, but you're all confusing progressive music with early post punk/alternative music, hey!? think before typing damn it!!

"Television were one of the most creative bands to emerge from New York's punk scene of the mid-'70s, creating an influential new guitar vocabulary. While guitarists Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd liked to jam, they didn't follow the accepted rock structures for improvisation -- they removed the blues while retaining the raw energy of garage rock, adding complex, lyrical solo lines that recalled both jazz and rock. With its angular rhythms and fluid leads, Television's music always went in unconventional directions, laying the groundwork for many of the guitar-based post-punk pop groups of the late '70s and...."

XTC:

"XTC was one of the smartest -- and catchiest -- British pop bands to emerge from the punk and new wave explosion of the late '70s. From the tense, jerky riffs of their early singles to the lushly arranged, meticulous pop of their later albums, XTC's music has always been driven by the hook-laden songwriting of guitarist Andy Partridge and bassist Colin Moulding. While popular success has eluded them in both Britain and America, the group has developed a devoted cult following in both countries that remains loyal over two decades after their first records..."
www.allmusic.com

So where is Art Rock or Progressive here, Ok?????

erik neuteboom wrote: To me The Stranglers sound as Art-rock as Queen does after their punk/new wave in the early years.

The Stranglers are definitely some sort of art-rock, but I don't see any relation with Queen...Stranglers' artism is based mostly on their theatrics and keyboard wizardry, and that type of art rock is closer to the XTC, even Television than Queen, IMHO.