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goose 
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Posted: January 11 2005 at 09:28 |
 Radioactive Toy wrote:
and what if its the other way around, accusing bands like opeth, and rush for example for being not prog because you don't like them!
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If you think I said that, you misunderstood me. I like both Opeth and Rush, and agree that they're both prog. However:
Opeth: progressive death metal
GYBE!: progressive post rock
But because a style has one (or more...) progressive band in it doesn't make the whole style a part of progressive rock!
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 18:17 |
I can admit that there is really bad prog music out there and that
there is really good non prog music out there, I'm just saying that we
shouldn't let our personal preferences cloud our judgement as to what
these bands really are
Oh, and Opeth and Rush rule 
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 14:30 |
Metropolis wrote:
Most post rock bands, and everyone i know who listens to post rock (quite a number of people i might add) would be offended at the very suggestion
We all have to remember that things aren't prog just because we (prog fans) like them
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and what if its the other way around, accusing bands like opeth, and rush for example for being not prog because you don't like them!
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Metropolis
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 13:10 |
Most post rock bands, and everyone i know who listens to post rock
(quite a number of people i might add) would be offended at the very
suggestion
We all have to remember that things aren't prog just because we (prog fans) like them
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 12:53 |
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Whaaa? I didn't say anyone wasn't prog!
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 12:32 |
goose wrote:
Dream Theater are in the database but I wouldn't say metal was a part of progressive rock!
Jethro Tull are in the database, but I wouldn't say folk rock was a part of progressive rock!
Opeth are in the database but I wouldn't say death metal was a part of progressive rock!
Devil Doll are in the database but I wouldn't say goth was a part of progressive rock!
Rush are in the database but I wouldn't say hard rock was a part of progressive rock! |
now youre beeing just an idiot!
just quit with making a fuss about what you think that's prog or not and start listening to the music!!
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Posted: January 02 2005 at 08:32 |
Petra wrote:
I voted a definate NO.
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I am definite that most people on this forum definitely cannot spell for definite.
Sorry Pert arse!
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Posted: January 01 2005 at 18:39 |
I voted a definate NO.
I listen to a lot of Post-rock and it's only a very tiny amount of bands that could be categorised as being Prog like and of course GYBE! is one of them. So to lump the whole genre as prog wouldn't work.
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goose
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Posted: December 31 2004 at 12:01 |
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Dream Theater are in the database but I wouldn't say metal was a part of progressive rock!
Jethro Tull are in the database, but I wouldn't say folk rock was a part of progressive rock!
Opeth are in the database but I wouldn't say death metal was a part of progressive rock!
Devil Doll are in the database but I wouldn't say goth was a part of progressive rock!
Rush are in the database but I wouldn't say hard rock was a part of progressive rock!
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Posted: December 31 2004 at 11:17 |
In that case, why is GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR! in the ProgArchives data base?
Facetiousness aside, I don't think there is any real problem in classifying Post Rock as part of Progressive Rock, particularly as there is no commonly agreed definition for Progressive Rock.
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Posted: December 30 2004 at 21:23 |
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No not prog. It's all morose. It's a separate genre.
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aqualung28
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Posted: December 30 2004 at 18:47 |
Godspeed You Black Emperor! is post rock. The definition I read is way too general but it said any type of music that uses rock instruments for music other than rock. It's a terrible definition though.
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Posted: December 30 2004 at 18:43 |
what is post-rock? Call me stupid, but I really don't know what it is
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goose
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Posted: December 30 2004 at 18:42 |
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If you look at where the early post rockers came from, there was
nothing to do with prog; granted some post rockers are progressive in
their approach, but a lot aren't.
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aqualung28
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Posted: December 30 2004 at 18:37 |
I think post-rock is a subgenre of prog. Any thoughts on this?
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