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Topic: OK, here’s another: Posted: May 27 2004 at 03:13 |
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 14:07 |
Jim Garten wrote:
| Am I right in thinking "what dreams may come" follows soon after Hamlet's line "to sleep, perchance to dream..."??[/QUOTE]
Righty-o, Jam-a-lam-a-ding-dong, you clever lad! Here's your gold star to show yer mum:
"To sleep -- perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub! / For in that sleep of death what dreams may come / when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, / must give us pause."
In that section alone of the Dane's famous soliloquy we find a movie title, a Wishbone Ash album title, and a band name!
And there are those who wonder why we should still read the old Bard of Avon!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 13:53 |
Certif1ed wrote:
"Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers" and "In That Quiet Earth" are both from Wuthering Heights
Although I did cheat a bit, as my S/O has a degree in English from Oxford, and I have a copy of "The Peguin Book of Quotations"...
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Right you are, Cert! No web use = full marks, and a gold star on your paper!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 07:06 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
A movie question: Where did the title of the Robin Williams film "What Dreams May Come" originate?
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Am I right in thinking "what dreams may come" follows soon after Hamlet's line "to sleep, perchance to dream..."??
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 03:09 |
"Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers" and "In That Quiet Earth" are both from Wuthering Heights
Although I did cheat a bit, as my S/O has a degree in English from Oxford, and I have a copy of "The Peguin Book of Quotations"...
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 17:41 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 12:41 |
Gee, my own private web page....
C'mon, you intellectual lightweights!
Cheat if you must, but have the decency to admit it....
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 00:15 |
A movie question: Where did the title of the Robin Williams film "What Dreams May Come" originate?
No web-cheating, SVP!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 00:05 |
OK then, don't play! Labour on in ignorance of the Tolkien-inspired foundation of all rock lyrics!
All righty then: Without cheating via the web, where do the Genesis song titles "Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers..." & "In That Quiet Earth" come from
(I mean the original source, of course, not the album!)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: May 10 2004 at 22:49 |
Glass-Prison wrote:
I don't think peter can find an explanation for these lyrics in LOTR. Last time I checked, there was no dynah mo humming over the husky wee wee
(It's not as sick as it sounds)
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I have actually managed, at long last, to track down Tolkien references for many of the Zappa lyrics cited, but as the material in question is of a decidedly ribald nature, my proposed analysis would have been even more salacious (love that word!), and perhaps unsuited to a public forum ostensibly dedicated to the dissemination of (drumroll please) "capital P capital R" Progressive Rock.
So:
Give me something less overtly sexual to work with, would you guys? This thread was fun -- at least for me! Waah!
(There's just not enough silliness here lately, you know. Maybe I need to return to my shining empire on the Island of Abandoned Progholes!)
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Posted: April 11 2004 at 22:58 |
^now I would love to hear that version
if it's too risque for the boards, then msg it to me.
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Posted: April 08 2004 at 01:41 |
My (upcoming) analysis of that section (from the unexpurgated edition of LOTR) is MUCH, MUCH naughtier than that!
Still, good one Maani!
(Got to suck up to "the boss," guys....)
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 21:28 |
Glass-Prison:
True, but there was hydroelectric power when Tolkien wrote the books. However, there is an alternative explanation for the line. A dynamo is, ultimately, an engine. And we know that Saruman had developed a "dynamo" system at Isengard to create the Uruk-Hai and their weapons. Thus, the line refers to the fact that Frodo and Sam were too far from Isengard to hear the "dynamo" hum.
Peace.
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 12:19 |
maani wrote:
Let me give Peter an assist here, at least with one of them:
"I poked and stroked til my wrist got numb, but I never did hear no Dinah Moe Humm"
This one is so obvious that I'm shocked - shocked! - that neither danbo nor Peter got it.
This refers to Frodo and Sam crossing the river after Frodo puts on the ring to get away from Boromir. Sam "poked and stroked" the oars in the water. As is obvious, "Dinah Moe Humm" is a wordplay on "dynamo hum." We all know that a dynamo is a motor most often associated with hydroelectric (i.e., water) power. The LOTR reference would be that Sam and Frodo were too far from the waterfall at the end of the river to hear the "dynamo hum."
Geez, guys. Give us a hard one...
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I don't think there was hydroelectricity in the lord of the rings (or electricity for that matter)
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 06:28 |
Move the topic!
This sounds like...
HUMOUR!
Here's another one, what's the LOTR reference here?:
I don't wanna kill my china pig No I don't Uh man's gotta live Uh man's gotta eat Uh man's gotta have shoes t' walk out on the street I don't wanna kill my china pig Ell he was uh baby I want yuh t' see I don't wanna kill my china pig Well I used t' go t' school With uh' little red box 'n I used to have m' pig go with me We walked for blocks I don't wanna kill my china pig
GOOD LUCK!
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 03:50 |
STOP IT JIM!!..STOP IT NOW....YOU NAUGHTY MAN!!!!
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 03:06 |
OO-ER missus!! Sounds a bit rude, eh? eh? eh?
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 02:13 |
Let me give Peter an assist here, at least with one of them:
"I poked and stroked til my wrist got numb, but I never did hear no Dinah Moe Humm"
This one is so obvious that I'm shocked - shocked! - that neither danbo nor Peter got it.
This refers to Frodo and Sam crossing the river after Frodo puts on the ring to get away from Boromir. Sam "poked and stroked" the oars in the water. As is obvious, "Dinah Moe Humm" is a wordplay on "dynamo hum." We all know that a dynamo is a motor most often associated with hydroelectric (i.e., water) power. The LOTR reference would be that Sam and Frodo were too far from the waterfall at the end of the river to hear the "dynamo hum."
Geez, guys. Give us a hard one...
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Posted: April 03 2004 at 23:18 |
Glass-Prison wrote:
I don't think peter can find an explanation for these lyrics in LOTR. Last time I checked, there was no dynah mo humming over the husky wee wee
(It's not as sick as it sounds)
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Don't be so sure , oh "Crystal Dungeon." My research (cough cough) continues....
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Posted: April 03 2004 at 18:16 |
I don't think peter can find an explanation for these lyrics in LOTR. Last time I checked, there was no dynah mo humming over the husky wee wee
(It's not as sick as it sounds)
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