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bhikkhu 
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 Topic: 80's and 90's GenesisPosted: July 16 2006 at 20:36 |
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Duke is a good album, but I wouldn't reccomend starting with that one. As for the others, don't waste your money (like I did).
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salmacis
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 16:15 |
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I agree that Three Sides Live is a weak live album- the weakest Genesis did, as its very ragged and has a somewhat schizophrenic set.
'Duke' has grown on me recently to the extent that (contrary to my review) I'd say there are no songs that are terrible on it. Indeed, 'Cul De Sac' and 'Man Of Our Times' are unsung gems.
'Abacab' and 'Invisible Touch' are their worst from the 80s, but I say they are both far better than the atrocious 'Calling All Stations', easily the nadir of their whole career. The eponymous album has a decent enough first side but a pretty crappy second side. 'We Can't Dance' is the best since 'Duke'- some very strong, imo, material with 'Driving The Last Spike', 'No Son Of Mine', 'Dreaming While You Sleep' and best of all, the sublime 'Fading Lights', surely their best song since 'The Lady Lies'.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 04:01 |
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For me Genesis agonized after W&W and totally died after Seconds Out.
Three sides Live is just a clone band trying to play what the original Genesis did in the 70's and only 25% of the album is decent.
If you want some advice but you still don't want to get the best first, buy From Genesis to the Revelation, many people that was introduced to Genesis with Puke, Abacrap or the later albums, didn't recovered from the exrerience and were never able to really like the best band from the 70's.
But it's my opinion only.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 16 2006 at 21:47 |
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Viajero Astral
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Joined: January 16 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3118 |
Posted: July 16 2006 at 03:50 |
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The less bad from that period IMO is Duke.
Duke's Travels is a great song. |
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Abstrakt
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Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
Posted: July 16 2006 at 03:17 |
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Amazon!!!??? CDON.com is cheaper and shorter delivery time (In sweden and norway, that is)
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rileydog22
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Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: July 15 2006 at 23:15 |
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Get the seventies stuff from Amazon. The used cd's there are just as good as new (for listening purposes), and half the price!
Edited by rileydog22 - July 15 2006 at 23:15 |
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Prog_Traveller
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:26 |
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What I'd like to know is what kind of a record store has only 80's and 90's Genesis? Even a store like Fye has most of their seventies stuff. If I were you I'd buy the seventies albums first and save the more poppy stuff for later.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 18:54 |
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I must agree with many of the others and say buy Duke. It's a good album as long as you don't like of it as one of the classic genesis albums types. Has some good moments and some bad. But worth it.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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The Miracle
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: June 30 2006 at 18:15 |
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Duke is tolerable... but trust me, it's better to spend your money on somethink else. Abacrap, Shapes and Invisible Touch blow ass, period. Calling All Stations and We Can't Dance are even worse
 It's an entirely different band really, pure pop and not the kind of pop I like. I think Ivan's reviews sum it up nicely: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=10400 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=10502 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=10564 |
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Bj-1
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 17:41 |
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Then get Duke. It's poppy but proggy at the same time. Really good album actually!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 14:23 |
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They had thease:
Duke
Abacab
Genesis (1983)
Calling All Stations
We Can't Dance
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Bj-1
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 14:05 |
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Buy Duke and Three Sides Live
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 13:34 |
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The local record store only has 80's and 90's Genesis... And i'm tempted to buy some! |
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Chicapah
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Joined: February 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8238 |
Posted: June 30 2006 at 08:44 |
I couldn't agree more. Duke is superb and definitely has some "Wow" moments. Three Sides Live (the UK version) is one of the best live albums ever. By anybody.
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 06:53 |
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Well you do know what Genesis is in the 80s and the 90s,right Alexander?
If you want Genesis "semi-prog",there is only one reference:Duke If you want Genesis pop: Invisible Touch If you want Genesis live: Three Sides Live |
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Cheesecakemouse
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 1751 |
Posted: June 30 2006 at 05:35 |
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Duke, is probably worth while if you've exhausted all their classic albums, after that I recommend you move on to Marillion, or else Steve Hackett's solo works
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - June 30 2006 at 05:36 |
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Logos
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Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
Posted: June 30 2006 at 05:30 |
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None.
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Abstrakt
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Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
Posted: June 30 2006 at 04:25 |
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Any reccomended albums from that period?
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