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Certif1ed
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Topic: Sky Posted: April 28 2006 at 03:39 |
I wan't keen on Sky when I first heard them, mainly because my parents bought Sky 2...
However, I found their first 4 LPs in spanking new condition in a second hand vinyl shop a few weeks agi and gave them a quick spin.
The quality deteriorates as the album number increments - the first is pretty reasonable in places, but the second starts to get painful. I particularly hate their version of Bach's "Toccata in D Minor", but then I have a natural aversion to hearing that piece used in conjunction with rock anyway, just like I do with "O Fortuna" from "Carmina Burana"... /shudder.
It's true that all the musicians are phenomenally talented, but none really know how to rock.
The best example of mixing Rock and Classical is Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Variations".
Herbie Flowers plays on that too...
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 14:51 |
I liked Sky - especially the tracks Westway and Where Opposites Meet - superb - I had the first LP
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 16:50 |
I don't agree with the idea that they 'played it safe'.Far from it in fact.They arrived at a time when instrumental bands were about as popular as Rabies but still put out 2 excellent albums.Sky 2 is actually quite proggy.I love the feeling the music creates and they certainly stood out for the time which was dominated by stupid new wave electro crap.But after Monkman left they just became a sad parody of themselves (ie Dance Of The Big Fairies ) and then it went rapidly downhill.
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 04:52 |
I just got Sky 3 second hand for $3NZ (roughly $2.50US), which is a great find for the musical wasteland New Zealand is (NZ is hell for a prog rock fan) I'll have to give it a good listen though before I have any thoughts on it.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 04:06 |
Personally, I thought Sky was a wasted opportunity; the combination of virtuosi within their ranks over the years should have produced absolutely stunning albums, but in my opinion, they played 'safe', producing what I can only describe as 'elevator music'.
My disappointment with Sky was only eclipsed by the greatest waste of talent ever - i.e. Hackett & Howes' appalling 'GTR' album
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 03:56 |
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 15:11 |
It seems they aren't too popular here .
By the way, Hugues, I enjoyed reading your reviews of the first three albums.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:03 |
Easy Livin wrote:
For me, Sky had a lot of potential which they never realised. Their msuic is generally easy, with little to challenge the virtuosity of the members. |
I have to agree. I have Sky2 (vinyl - bought when it was first released) and while I enjoy playing it from time to time (like every couple of years or so) I will not be getting any more. I must say that the music originally intrigued me enough to start really listening to classical music.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 10:33 |
i got sky2, it's really refreshing to listen to, and the sound quality is excellent!
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:37 |
Phil wrote:
Have to agree with Sean's "muzak" comment. I knew of John Williams (ex-Mr Anna Ford, the BBC newsreader!) from his classical guitar work and the premise of the band sounded good, but at the time I bought their first album I had also just discovered Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire" and McLaughlin and co just blew them away, as far as I was concerned. Easy Living is right - undoubtedly they were all virtuosi, but never challenged themselves in the format of Sky.
There is plenty of John Williams classical guitar work around, including some splendid work he did with julian Bream. |
Yes - the imaginatively titled 'Together' and 'Together Again' are both excellent.
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Phil
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:35 |
Have to agree with Sean's "muzak" comment. I knew of John Williams (ex-Mr Anna Ford, the BBC newsreader!) from his classical guitar work and the premise of the band sounded good, but at the time I bought their first album I had also just discovered Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire" and McLaughlin and co just blew them away, as far as I was concerned. Easy Living is right - undoubtedly they were all virtuosi, but never challenged themselves in the format of Sky.
There is plenty of John Williams classical guitar work around, including some splendid work he did with julian Bream.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:17 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Sky are Ok. Not prog though. |
Sky's first two Lp had some good things about them, but I never liked those bands which do reworks of classic I am not any nicer towards Holland's Trace and Ekseption
Pell Mell did also one of those album, which was certainly not quite as good as their Marburg album
After their second album, the rest is pityful IMH&PO >> Sky is close to muzak in more than one way |
Agreed - there were some interesting ideas on the first two albums, and John Williams fitted in surprisingly well, but after that they were like rock music's answer to those mostly dreadful 'Classic Rock' orchestral albums.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 04:07 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Sky are Ok. Not prog though. |
Sky's first two Lp had some good things about them, but I never liked those bands which do reworks of classic I am not any nicer towards Holland's Trace and Ekseption
Pell Mell did also one of those album, which was certainly not quite as good as their Marburg album
After their second album, the rest is pityful IMH&PO >> Sky is close to muzak in more than one way
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:53 |
Sky are Ok. Not prog though.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:33 |
For me, Sky had a lot of potential which they never realised. Their msuic is generally easy, with little to challenge the virtuosity of the members.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:23 |
I think I would start with the first album, like I did. The second is a
bit long (especially the LP, all the tracks wouldn't fit onto one CD),
but I think it outdoes the first overall. Either one would make a fine
starting point though.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 02:21 |
I want to get into them so whats a good place to start?
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 01:41 |
Great for the first 2 albums while Francis Monkman hung around.SKY 2 is an interesting ,if sprawling, double album.They did very well for a time and stood up to punk/new wave which is creditable.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 01:01 |
Ultaigh wrote:
Is that the John Williams that plays Classical guitar? I'll definetly check them out!
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Yes it is! Finally a reply, I thought all was hopeless there for a while!
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 00:59 |
Is that the John Williams that plays Classical guitar? I'll definetly check them out!
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