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Certif1ed
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Topic: Sonar anyone Posted: April 25 2006 at 15:30 |
I must admit that until we finished "Something In The Way" last week, "Monkey" was my favourite too - thanks for the comments!
The vocal effects are largely done using Antares and Sonitus plug ins. I don't know too much about them - that's Andy's domain.
Monkey was pretty much finished in it's first incarnation - a single session resulted in the complete song and rough sketches of the guitar parts and organ, so every subsequent session has been a polish of the original, while other songs have been elongated, edited and generally cut and pasted about.
Having said that, we're only up to mix 9 on "Monkey" - some other songs are up to mix 20 and beyond. The mix on the MySpace site is actually mix 7 - we're waiting for our real drummer to complete his drum programming, and I've got to re-record the real bass, as my first attempt was a bit of a bodge.
The bass on mix 7 is the same synth line that we used for the prototype for mix 1, and I'm particularly averse to synth basses, unless used for effect - so it needs to die!
I also need to come up with a solo for the section after the white noise/feedback in the bridge - so I'm frantically searching the LickLibrary.com archives. Surprisingly, the best DVD I've found to plunder ideas from is called "50 Killer Metal Licks", featuring Danny Gill - but I can't play that fast... yet!
Thanks again for the comments about the music!
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cobb
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:58 |
Nice songs Cert. Excellent vocal effects. Loved Monkey. Am I wrong, or does it sound more 'finished' than the other three? Just listening to Monkey again, while writing this- it really is good.
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:40 |
I used to be a big fan of Cakewalk - around version 3 - then things got ropey when they first added Audio in v4.
We have Sonar 4 on our studio PC, but find it orders of magnitude less friendly than Sony ACID Pro, which we use exclusively these days.
The results can be heard on my MySpace profile - but that doesn't mean you'll like the music - it ain't Prog Rock, although "Modern Man" is kinda proggish in the mid section.
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 20:42 |
^ Actually, no - I can probably count the times it's acted up on one hand...and that's precisely the reason I haven't upgraded to 5 yet. Then again, I'm not really doing a lot of esoteric things with Sonar - the only time I run into problems is when I hit my "memory roof" by havbing too many softsynths crunching at once!
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cobb
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Posted: April 13 2006 at 01:23 |
^^Are you doing any recording with Sonar 4 and having lock up problems? I had a hell of time with 4 until I put on 5.
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Jaydubz
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 18:13 |
I'm a big fan of Sonar - currenly using Version 4 Producers Edition. It's very intuitive, and behaves well with its sister product, Project 5 Version 2...as well as Rewiring seamlessly with Reason & Melodyne. The MIDI capabilites of Sonar are particularly sweet. If you're considering doing music on a PC, Sonar may be a great choice for you!
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cobb
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 08:51 |
It's an aging SD-35 Soundcanvas player. Uses floppy discs. Unfortunately they are 720k discs and they are getting very hard to come by... But it still plays like treat.
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darren
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 07:44 |
Which Roland midi player?
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cobb
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 22:36 |
I use it all the time for recording and midi for our covers band. The midi makes excellent backing stuff when played through a Roland midi player, which through a PA sounds just like there was an actual Roland instrument there.
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 19:34 |
I'm using a beginner's keyboard that I borrowed from my nephew. I'm new to midi. I find some of the sounds are not very accurate. I also discovered you pretty much have to abuse it a bit to get great sounds. By this I mean that you set it for trumpet and play the low register notes and it sounds closer to a trombone than the trombone setting. One of the settings for a bass is better played on the upper notes and sound closer to a violin than the violin setting, etc.
I'm just getting used to using everything. Short forty five second stuff just to get practice on using several tracks.
I haven't plugged my guitar in yet or record flute. I did use it to make a couple of radio commercials and it came in really handy since I had to carefully edit some stuff out.
So, what are you working on?
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cobb
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 02:46 |
Excellent darren. Are you using midi instruments or recording directly into it?
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 02:08 |
Used Sonar tonight. Still learning. Made a short instrumental. Awful music but the sound quality was great. Wish I wasn't so busy with everything else so I could create more. I do have some video projects coming up. I'm going to record music for it (solves the problem of copyright).
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
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cobb
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 00:23 |
So, nobody uses sonar...
What music recording software do the musicians on this site use then?
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darren
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 06:43 |
cobb wrote:
The greatest thing since sliced bread.... for a musician. |
... well at least for us that can't afford the latest Logic Pro software and the big honkin' Mac to run it.
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
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cobb
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 21:26 |
The program is a music studio for PC by Cakewalk. Puts a recording studio on your desktop. The greatest thing since sliced bread.... for a musician.
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 18:12 |
I did in the early 90's..great kit!
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jesperz
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:30 |
The Drum Manufacturer? Sonar Drums?
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<<Dark side of Z' Drummination>>
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 05:45 |
I think i have it somewhere but i have not used it alot
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cobb
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 04:29 |
True... Lindsay L
Any experience with it?
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 03:17 |
Sonar? The music program?
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