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    Posted: May 15 2006 at 16:50
Originally posted by lordoflight lordoflight wrote:

Killing Joke are a good band, quite unique in their use of heavy tribal
drumming. They seem to be getting  better and heavier with time -
their 2003 self-titled album and the samples i heard of Hosannas From
The Basement of Hell (new album) are great.

They are well known for having influenced many bands - Metallica
covered their song Killing Time, Nirvana ripped of the riff from
Eighties on Come As You Are (has anybody else noticed this?) and even
Kate Bush is their fan



I stopped following Metallica after they released "Load" - the only Killing Joke cover I know they did was "The Wait" on the $5.98 EP - which is a good cover, but I much prefer the original.

KJ's first album is a masterpiece of its genre - I particularly like "Requiem" and "War Dance", as well as "The Wait" - but I never really got into anything they did after that.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 06:35
Killing Joke are a good band, quite unique in their use of heavy tribal drumming. They seem to be getting  better and heavier with time - their 2003 self-titled album and the samples i heard of Hosannas From The Basement of Hell (new album) are great.

They are well known for having influenced many bands - Metallica covered their song Killing Time, Nirvana ripped of the riff from Eighties on Come As You Are (has anybody else noticed this?) and even Kate Bush is their fan
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 05:37
Killing Joke's new album is out. It's very intense as usual with repetitive tribal rythyms. I'd say it's more melodic than their previous album. The third track is particularly interesting with heavy use of violins throughout. If they had used more orchestral sections in the whole album, it could have been a masterpiece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 08:03
Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Sorry to stray off topic..I'm good at that.. short attention sp..

No, I like that. It makes things more interesting.

Wikipedia is really good most of the time but did you hear about the time when a man was falsely linked to the JFK assassination on the site?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4520678.stm

The entry for neo prog wasn't very complimentary either.

Now who's straying off the topic .... and it was my topic as well.

It's your thread as you say... Take it wherever you like, mate!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 08:03
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Ok just looked up the Strangers..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranglers

Agree with most of it, I guess. They didn't consider themselves punk, not because of keyboards, but because they wrote intelligently..like Killing Joke...

Sorry to stray off topic..I'm good at that.. short attention sp..

I never considered the Stranglers punk. You prabably know that from other threads.

Yeah, I remember. I always did, somewhat foolishly I guess. Whenever there was programs on telly about punks the Stranglers semed to get a mention. They were lumped in with the Mohican brigade because of their agression and raw sound, I suppose.

If you think about it intelligently, they are obviously NOT punk...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 06:00
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Ok just looked up the Strangers..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranglers

Agree with most of it, I guess. They didn't consider themselves punk, not because of keyboards, but because they wrote intelligently..like Killing Joke...

Sorry to stray off topic..I'm good at that.. short attention sp..

I never considered the Stranglers punk. You prabably know that from other threads.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 05:50
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Sorry to stray off topic..I'm good at that.. short attention sp..

No, I like that. It makes things more interesting.

Wikipedia is really good most of the time but did you hear about the time when a man was falsely linked to the JFK assassination on the site?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4520678.stm

The entry for neo prog wasn't very complimentary either.

Now who's straying off the topic .... and it was my topic as well.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 05:37

Ok just looked up the Strangers..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranglers

Agree with most of it, I guess. They didn't consider themselves punk, not because of keyboards, but because they wrote intelligently..like Killing Joke...

Sorry to stray off topic..I'm good at that.. short attention sp..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 05:32

Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Wikipedia describes Killing Joke as post-punk ... one of the bands that tried to make punk more complex, a strange concept when you think about it. One of the reasons why they couldn't be called punk is because they use keyboards.

So did the Stranglers..

I'll have to see what Wikipedia says about them, not that Wikipedia is gospel..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 03:43
Wikipedia describes Killing Joke as post-punk ... one of the bands that tried to make punk more complex, a strange concept when you think about it. One of the reasons why they couldn't be called punk is because they use keyboards.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2006 at 06:55

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I only know their early stuff, but I used to really enjoy them - the combination of punk attitude and pretty good musicianship was a winning combination for me. Gigs were intense, and the audience were a lot scarier than the band themselves from what I recall. Youth is a spectacular bassist, and went on to work with Steve Hillage in System 7 (among many other interesting projects) so maybe they were peace loving hippies underneath all the camouflage make up and brutal rhythms.

From what I've heard, Jaz Coleman's main job these days is composing classical music. He only reformed Killing Joke in 2003 because he was angry about the Iraq war. He must be still angry because there's another Killing Joke album in the pipeline this year.

What kind of person goes to a Killing Joke concert I wonder?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2006 at 06:18
I only know their early stuff, but I used to really enjoy them - the combination of punk attitude and pretty good musicianship was a winning combination for me. Gigs were intense, and the audience were a lot scarier than the band themselves from what I recall. Youth is a spectacular bassist, and went on to work with Steve Hillage in System 7 (among many other interesting projects) so maybe they were peace loving hippies underneath all the camouflage make up and brutal rhythms.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2006 at 01:56
Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

im a big post punk fan and i heard there first album and i thought it was ok but not great is there any better albums by them

I think that they really started to get good from 1985 onwards. Here are the albums I would recommend:

  • Night Time (1985) - containing their one hit single Love Like Blood
  • Brighter Than a Thousand Suns (1986)
  • Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions (1990)
  • Pandemonium (1994)
  • Democracy (1996)
  • Killing Joke (2003) - their heaviest album. Intense.
  • Night Time I think is superb , but for me ,surprisingly , Pandemonium is the pick of their albums . Surprising I say because I like punk music and though all their material would go well beyond simple punk ( I think KJ have often been described as Industrial music ) , Pandemonium is powerful but also uses a lot of technology and style punk would never approach .At their best , these can be brilliant , even their early stuff stood out from the run of the mill punk stuff .

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    Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

    Originally posted by Jon The Impaler Jon The Impaler wrote:

    I think Jaz once referred to them as a punk band , in their very early days ....but they do defy definition into any one category . After The Stranglers , these are one of my very favourite bands . Their mid 90's material is very much worth a listen  , very powerful . It tends to be the drumms more than anything that make the KJ sound ....the beat they have is unique to them .

    Nice to hear from you again Jon! Who or what is Jaz?

     

    Jaz ...Jaz Coleman - Killing Joke's singer .

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2006 at 01:26
    I like Night Time, Extremities is very interesting but flawed. I need to pick up "What is this for?"
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 03:50

    Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

    im a big post punk fan and i heard there first album and i thought it was ok but not great is there any better albums by them

    I think that they really started to get good from 1985 onwards. Here are the albums I would recommend:

  • Night Time (1985) - containing their one hit single Love Like Blood
  • Brighter Than a Thousand Suns (1986)
  • Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions (1990)
  • Pandemonium (1994)
  • Democracy (1996)
  • Killing Joke (2003) - their heaviest album. Intense.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 18:08
    im a big post punk fan and i heard there first album and i thought it was ok but not great is there any better albums by them
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:54
    Jaz = Jeremy Coleman = Founder member/singer/keyboard player/lyricist of Killing Joke 


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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:44

    Originally posted by Jon The Impaler Jon The Impaler wrote:

    I think Jaz once referred to them as a punk band , in their very early days ....but they do defy definition into any one category . After The Stranglers , these are one of my very favourite bands . Their mid 90's material is very much worth a listen  , very powerful . It tends to be the drumms more than anything that make the KJ sound ....the beat they have is unique to them .

    Nice to hear from you again Jon! Who or what is Jaz?

     

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:29
    Originally posted by Jon The Impaler Jon The Impaler wrote:

    No  I am not  , but never made any issues about it . I visited here from the Punk77 website , mainly to put a few misconceptions about punk right , but as you can see , there is music that crooses all boundaries . I quite enjoy the discussions here , though some bands I don't have a clue about . Anyway , its all very quiet and boring on the punk77 site at the moment and I have to have something to do

    Amazing! It's good to see that punk and prog fans can be together and have a decent conversation without fighting.  Personally I don't like punk but I love Killing Joke and whilst I'm not a Stranglers fan, I have to say that the songs of theirs I've heard on the radio have been very catchy (are they really punk?). Do you like any prog bands?

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