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    Posted: December 16 2005 at 12:08

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I kind of feel like a dork- I have no Kansas- What album should I have?

 

Drew, it depends on what you like.  Kansas doesn't stay in one vein very long and have two songwriters as different as you can be as far as what they write.  If you like Symphonic prog with a hard rock/blues feel try any of the first 5 CD's.  The last two are more produced than the first three and had more commerical attention.  The Ultimate Kansas is not a bad place to start though.  Here ts the link

 

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=3222


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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by paulindigo paulindigo wrote:

Anyone has news on the remastered edition of Two for the show?
The official site doesn't say anything about the actual release date,
you can just see it's been moved from 2005 to 2006...

 

Yeah, Sony postponed the project becasue of the Payola scam and the 10 million dollars it cost them to settle that.  They have not given a release date as of yet just 2006.  Hopefully it will be in the first quarter of 2006.  They also stopped the remaster of Kerry Liivgrens Seeds of Change.  That disk was supposed to include Kansas doing Mask of the Great Deceiver live.

I hate that f*&#^_g song!!!!!  Nothing really wrong with Mask of the Great Deceiver, but ever since I bought that damn album in my first year of college (that's 1980 for our younger friends), every time I hear anything from AD, Livgren solo, Monolith, or even Rainbow (I think it has something to do with the Ronnie James Dio connection), I get that damn song in my head and it won't go away for days.  Madness!! And after 25 years it's still there!!

Anyway, I can't believe there's enough demand to remaster Seeds of Change.  That's awesome.  Capitalizing on the Proto-Kaw thing I guess.  BTW, I think How Can You Live is probably the best song on that album - it could have easily made it onto Audio-Visions except that Barriemore Barlow's drums don't sound as crisp to me as Ehart's do.

 

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"He's gonna make you a believer. He'll tell you lies, he'll......"  DAMN!  Now you got it started again....

 

 Sorry did not mean to torment you.  Seeds has a pretty good following and it sold way more than any AD album.  My favorite song on it is Ground Zero with David Pack from Ambrosia doing the lead vocals.  To me that is one of the best songs Livgren ever wrote. 

 

 


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Their first 5 albums are awesome (i dont know about Monolith, i dont have it). My favorite songs are Journey From Mariabronn, Death of Mother Nature Suite, Song For America, Child of Innocence, Mysteries & Mayhem/The Pinnacle, Icarus, Magnum Opus (and all of Leftoverture), Paradox

Sorry for the long list, theres so many others, i love every song from those first 5 albums!
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Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by paulindigo paulindigo wrote:

Anyone has news on the remastered edition of Two for the show?
The official site doesn't say anything about the actual release date,
you can just see it's been moved from 2005 to 2006...

 

Yeah, Sony postponed the project becasue of the Payola scam and the 10 million dollars it cost them to settle that.  They have not given a release date as of yet just 2006.  Hopefully it will be in the first quarter of 2006.  They also stopped the remaster of Kerry Liivgrens Seeds of Change.  That disk was supposed to include Kansas doing Mask of the Great Deceiver live.

I hate that f*&#^_g song!!!!!  Nothing really wrong with Mask of the Great Deceiver, but ever since I bought that damn album in my first year of college (that's 1980 for our younger friends), every time I hear anything from AD, Livgren solo, Monolith, or even Rainbow (I think it has something to do with the Ronnie James Dio connection), I get that damn song in my head and it won't go away for days.  Madness!! And after 25 years it's still there!!

Anyway, I can't believe there's enough demand to remaster Seeds of Change.  That's awesome.  Capitalizing on the Proto-Kaw thing I guess.  BTW, I think How Can You Live is probably the best song on that album - it could have easily made it onto Audio-Visions except that Barriemore Barlow's drums don't sound as crisp to me as Ehart's do.

 

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Originally posted by paulindigo paulindigo wrote:

Anyone has news on the remastered edition of Two for the show?
The official site doesn't say anything about the actual release date,
you can just see it's been moved from 2005 to 2006...

 

Yeah, Sony postponed the project becasue of the Payola scam and the 10 million dollars it cost them to settle that.  They have not given a release date as of yet just 2006.  Hopefully it will be in the first quarter of 2006.  They also stopped the remaster of Kerry Liivgrens Seeds of Change.  That disk was supposed to include Kansas doing Mask of the Great Deceiver live.

 


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I kind of feel like a dork- I have no Kansas- What album should I have?
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Anyone has news on the remastered edition of Two for the show?
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Originally posted by Rainman Rainman wrote:

oh- ell, everyone seems to adore them... I would listen to The J.Geils Band instead...

Wow, I think that's a new stretch for a non-fan - J Geils, that's a pretty strong statement!

Anyway, you'll find here that everyone most decidedly does not like Kansas.  It's just that on those occasions when the subject comes up, those few of us who do all jump on the bandwagon.  Kansas may have a lot of detractors, but most of their fans are almost rabidly loyal and enthusiastic.  Thanks for reading the thread anyway.

Oh, thank you for the tip, ClemofNazareth. I'll be wiser to jump on the bandwagon next time. About J.Geils, I wanted it to sound strong! 
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Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Fav Kansas Albums (in order)

  1. Leftoverture (1976)
  2. Song for America (1975)
  3. Kansas (1974)
  4. Masques (1975)
  5. Point of No Return (1977)

    underrated band!  IMO the best prog band out of the USA ever.

Exactly the same TOP 5 KANSAS albums as me.
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Originally posted by Rainman Rainman wrote:

oh- ell, everyone seems to adore them... I would listen to The J.Geils Band instead...

Wow, I think that's a new stretch for a non-fan - J Geils, that's a pretty strong statement!

Anyway, you'll find here that everyone most decidedly does not like Kansas.  It's just that on those occasions when the subject comes up, those few of us who do all jump on the bandwagon.  Kansas may have a lot of detractors, but most of their fans are almost rabidly loyal and enthusiastic.  Thanks for reading the thread anyway.
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Weell I am glad I am no longer part of a small group here that likes this band.  Just wanted to add something I have seen them live 4 times in the last year and half and they do not disappoint.  These guys can still sing play and play well. If you have the chance go see them. The same goes for Proto-Kaw if they get to your area.

 


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Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Fav Kansas Albums (in order)



  1. Leftoverture (1976)

  2. Song for America (1975)

  3. Kansas (1974)

  4. Masques (1975)

  5. Point of No Return (1977)underrated band!  IMO the best prog band
    out of the USA ever.


Agreed. Best USA prog band for sure IMO. Though I would rate Point of
No Return higher than you did, I love it. Kansas is an incredible band. I
don't even understand how some people don't consider them prog. Oh
well, to each his/her own.

My favorite Kansas song is Closet Chronicles from Point of Know Return.

P.S.- This post made me pop in Song For America again and remind me
how much I like Kansas.
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
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All their records up to Audiovisions are extremely good, one could start with just anyone of them (perhaps not Monolith or Audiovisions), although the ultimate album to start with, would be Point Of Know Return. It was my first prog record.

I agree on Kansas being Americas greatest prog band. Or even greatest band all categories.

Key songs (if that is important):
Magnum Opus, Cheyenne Anthem, Icarus, Song For America, Journey From Mariabronn, The Pinnacle, and so on...
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Originally posted by Harbinger1 Harbinger1 wrote:

A little trivia guys. The Steve Hackett solo album (from Genesis fame)  Please Don't Touch features a song called Narnia-yes that Narnia, which features the vocals of Steve Walsh of Kansas. The CD is terrific, and the price is worth that song alone, although the rest of the CD great. Also has a great song with Richie Havens on vocals. Just thought I would add this little tidbit. 

This is a great song off a great album.  I have this song on one of my Prog mixes. 

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oh- ell, everyone seems to adore them... I would listen to The J.Geils Band instead...
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My favourite Kansas Albums are

Leftoverture

Point of Know Return

Song For America

Kansas

Masque

If you want a great Live recording try Two for the show its great in every way  Kerry Livgren (main song writter , guitars, keyboards)  describes it as Kansas actually sound, its a faithful reproduction of their live sound back in the 70`s.
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Originally posted by Harbinger1 Harbinger1 wrote:

A little trivia guys. The Steve Hackett solo album (from Genesis fame)  Please Don't Touch features a song called Narnia-yes that Narnia, which features the vocals of Steve Walsh of Kansas. The CD is terrific, and the price is worth that song alone, although the rest of the CD great. Also has a great song with Richie Havens on vocals. Just thought I would add this little tidbit. 
Phil Ehart the drummer of Kansas also played on that Steve hackett album 
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I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised by "Leftoverture" - I'm currently watching the bargain bins of my local vinyl shops for more Kansas
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I like about 90% of all their stuff - even some of the later albums had worthwhile songs.

Favorites CDs:

Leftoverture - grand is scope, a very enjoyable listen.

Point of Know Return - not a bad song on it - very good stuff.

Song For America - also excellent.

Live at The Whiskey - an excellent live CD with a lot of the Classic stuff, performed well.

Favorite Songs:

Song For America - Song For America & Lamplight Symphony

Leftoverture - Carry On Wayward Son, Miracles Out Of Nowhere, Questions Of My Childhood, Cheyenne Anthem

Point Of Know Return - Portrait (He Knew), Nobody's Home

Audio Visions - Don't Open Your Eyes, No One Together

Vinyl Confessions - Play The Game Tonight, Fair Exchange, Borderline

Power - All I Wanted

In The Spirit Of Things - One Big Sky, Rainmaker

Freaks of Nature - I've got this CD, but I can't remember a single song from it.

Somewhere To Elsewhere - Byzantium

 

Starting Point - See the Favorite CDs listed above.
David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light.
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F**k the cynics! I love kansasa and have all their albums from "Kansas" to "Audio Visions" plus "Always never the same" and "Somewhere to elsewhere". Steve Walsh was one of the best singers in the rock scene, but nowadays his voice are simply horrendous!

"Masque" is my fav album, and 'The Pinnacle" its better song. For the begginers, "two for the show" is a wonderful start.

Kansas-Lonely wind, Can I tel you & Journey from Mariabronn

Song for America - Lamplight symphony and the title song

Masque - all except the first one. Well, The Pinnacle, Icarus and All the world are the cream.

Leftoverture-Carry on, Cheyenne anthem and the wall

Point of Know return - Title song, Paradox

Monolith - on the other side, Glimpse of home, Away from you

Audio visions - Hold on, No one together

Always never the same - Eleanor Rigby, The wall, Hold on

Somewhere to elsewhere - Icarus II, Distant vision
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