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Phil 
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 04:32 |
 Phil wrote:
lunaticviolist wrote:
The only Syn song I've heard is 14 Hour
Technicolour Dream on the Nuggets box set. The music was great,
but the vocals were terrible. Does the new Syn have the same
vocalist as the original Syn? |
Steve Nardelli is the vocalist now, and was on most of the original Syn
material, though off hand I can't say about this particular track. I do
have "Orignal Syn" compilation which includes 14 Hour techniclour
dream, which I believe is the same version as you have. I'll check
later and post back.
I would say that the vocals on the new album "Syndestructable" are OK
but not great, however I still enjoyed the album (and the Syn launch
gig I saw last night!)
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It is the same vocalist (Steve Nardelli) but it isn't representative of
how he now sounds, or what the music on the new album is like. I would recommend the new
album.
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 16:54 |
I just got the album. I'm on the second track, and it sounds great. The vocals are pretty good.
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 12:07 |
lunaticviolist wrote:
The only Syn song I've heard is 14 Hour
Technicolour Dream on the Nuggets box set. The music was great,
but the vocals were terrible. Does the new Syn have the same
vocalist as the original Syn? |
Steve Nardelli is the vocalist now, and was on most of the original Syn
material, though off hand I can't say about this particular track. I do
have "Orignal Syn" compilation which includes 14 Hour techniclour
dream, which I believe is the same version as you have. I'll check
later and post back.
I would say that the vocals on the new album "Syndestructable" are OK
but not great, however I still enjoyed the album (and the Syn launch
gig I saw last night!)
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 11:59 |
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The only Syn song I've heard is 14 Hour Technicolour Dream on the Nuggets box set. The music was great, but the vocals were terrible. Does the new Syn have the same vocalist as the original Syn?
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 11:04 |
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Thanks, kirk, I will try to find that conspiracy cd, sounds good
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 21:48 |
Well, the toughest role to fill in a band is always the singer, esp in prog. I mean, I would like Rush but....
I haven't received my copy of the album yet, but Nardelli does sound a bit like Gabriel or at least Shaun Guerin (sp?).
And he sounds at least sounds at least as good as Billy Sherwood. Which, btw, if you want to hear some Squire lead vox, I'd check out the second Conspiracy album "The Unknown." It's more neo-prog or art rock than symphonic, but a couple tracks are very very proggy indeed, especially New World which has some of Squire's best bass playing since the 70s. It's on Amazon.
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 20:27 |
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Nice to see someone agrees with me about the vocals...man, I was so looking forward to a Fish Out of Water, part two...my mistake. Why would someone work so long and hard (I assume) on a project and have vocals that seem so laid back and lazy? Ah well, it is not bad, just not great...almost seems like a waste of the music, which is pretty good (again, tho, no Yes or Squire solo).
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:30 |
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I've got the album, "Syndestructable", have listened to it several
times, it's good but it's not great. Nothing at all like "Fish Out Of
Water", I would have to say! The lyrics and melodies
are all quite strong, the vocals (all by Nardelli) are a bit weak as are some of the
arrangements. Most tracks are around 8 minutes, the final song "The
Promise" is a 13 minute epic that probably justifies them being
labelled "prog" (if we're into attaching labels!). The tracks are drive
along at a fair pace, there isn't the complexity you'd find with Yes.
"Cathedral of Love" is the single and the most melodic number; "Golden
Age" has hints of "Comfortably Numb" in the tune; my favourite track is
"Golden Age" which has the best riff. All medium-heavy rock I would say
(I'm not very good at describing it am I?).
I had also bought (mistakenly thinking it was the new album) a 2-CD
compilation of Syn material, "Original Syn", the first disc being their
old stuff - scrappy in places - the second disc being 2004
recordings with Peter Banks (also of original Yes fame) and one track,
Illusions, was very good indeed, ending with a nice guitar/moog duel.
Sadly Banks did not work on the new album.
I'm off to see the band tomorrow night (Tuesday 15th) at the Marquee in
London, looking forward to seeing Chris Squire in a smaller venue. I
have a gut feeling the music will be much better on stage than on
record, it sounds like the sort of music that needs to be played live.
I'll let you know! If anyone else can make it please let me know!
Tickets are £15, gig stars 7.30.
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:08 |
I am listening to this release right now...so far, I love the music, but the vocals are a tiny bit disappointing, as I was hoping to hear Chris singing all the time (loving Fish out of Water). The vocals seem somewhat pedestrian, but maybe I just have to get used to it.
Here's hoping the rest of the album have some Chris vocal leads on it!
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Posted: November 13 2005 at 11:09 |
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Anyone heard the whole album yet?
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:17 |
Chris Stacey wrote:
Wow.....amazing sounding stuff. Great thread and gonna hunt this album down as soon as possible. Squire has always been the ,most consistent...not so? |
Squire is definitely VP of Quality Control for Yes.
That said, Open Your Eyes (which was supposed to be a Squire solo album) is among Yes' weakest albums, and the first album from Conspiracy (Squire/Sherwood side project) was pretty weak. Although the second Conspiracy album has three or four great songs.
And Squire has never turned out anything truly awful, like Anderson's The Promise Ring or The More You Know. Heck, I don't even listen to Deseo or Change We Must.
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:13 |
kenmeyerjr wrote:
Well, Chris Squire's solo album is probably my favorite Yes solo album, so I will definitely try to be on the lookout...if only my memory wasn't so terrible... |
Dude, just pre-order it on Amazon right now! Apparently the release date has been pushed back one week to Nov. 8
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:12 |
hcnoer wrote:
btw, is Pete Banks included in this "new" Syn?
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Banks was originally involved in the reunion (Squire was not), but there was a falling out of some kind. As usual, Banks got super bitter.
Anyway, Squire is on board now, which is more thrilling to me, although it would have been cool to have both. I like Banks' solo stuff.
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:10 |
Dick Heath wrote:
But doesn't answer the question: why was It Bites' Francis Dunnery another name in the frame, and like Gary Husband included in press-release photos of the anticipated touring Syn ?
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Francis Dunnery was supposed to play guitar for The Syn on the aborted More Drama tour. Too bad - It Bites was a great band.
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:08 |
flying teapot wrote:
heard the clips, sounds very good, I had never heard Syn, is this what the original stuff was like?
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From what I've heard, the new music is totally different from the old - after all, there's nearly 40 years difference. For we proggies, I think the new music is the way to go (the album Syndestructible), which you can get on Amazon here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000BKUX2E/qid =1130987086/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-9581272-0840611?v=glance &s=music&n=507846
The old stuff I've heard is more mod-pysch swinging 60s London, and frankly not as cool as a lot of other music from the period. And it's not prog.
But the new album, for me, sounds like it might be the best prog album of 2005, along with K2 "Book of the Dead."
And btw, The Syn just announced a half dozen US East Coast / West Coast tour dates for Jan 2006:
http://www.synmusic.net/index2.html
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Phil
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 12:03 |
I've got tickets to see The Syn at the Marquee club on 15th November.
In preparation I bought a 2 CD set of material from 1965-2004
yesterday, the promised new studio album not yet on the shelves. The
old stuff is interesting but in truth not so great; the newer tracks
seem much better though a version of Time and A Word in which Chris
provides vocals is disconcerting, as in part he speaks the vocals and
it reminds me of a record made by William Shatner!! 
All in all the vocals aren't so great, but I reckon they'll be good on
stage. I'll still get the new album though. Let you know!
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 11:37 |
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I heard about this band a little while back after trying to find out
further information about the Stacey brothers (Jeremy Stacey is the
drummer in The Syn) after I saw them guesting at a Gov't Mule gig at
the Mean Fiddler way back in March I think... I thought this
project looked intriguing indeed...
Also, Chris Squire played guest bass on a Gov't Mule track (Sun Dance)
in 2002 (or there abouts) and it's great. You can find it on
Deepest End Volume 2 (or if you have the English box set (including
both volumes), disc 2). Definitely worth a listen. Oh, I
forgot to mention a guest appearence by Tony Levin too... who has also
guested with them in concert and played 21st Century Schizoid Man...
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:19 |
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I am definitely intrigued.
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:53 |
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...this is called....BleedingGum ... !
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:18 |
el böthy wrote:
Yes music with Genesis like vocals...and Chris Squire? If you tell Mr Fripp is the guitarist Ill crap my pants right here, right now! |
It looks a little like genesis, doesn't it?
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