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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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    Posted: 13 hours 40 minutes ago at 17:40
I like his drumming on National Health Missing Pieces. There are in fact some unusual sounding pieces on this album and some reminiscent of King Crimson...including Phil Miller having similarities to Robert Fripp.

Gong Live In Oslo 1974 features Bill Bruford on drums. I like his drumming on Sprinkling Of Clouds and he's great on the Daevid Allen material and the Fish Rising Steve Hillage material. This concert is a unique setting. It's Daevid Allen sounding different and heading in a new direction which was stylistically based on a more gentle style of writing he recorded a few months later on Good Morning...and Steve Hillage playing songs which surfaced on Fish Rising. There is also a strange instrumental improvisation which is in a King Crimson style...but it's Gong progressing forward with Hillage and Allen leaving to pursue solo albums and Bruford is backing this up with creative playing. It's a shame that it is an audience recording, but if you have an EQ it can sound decent.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Actually on National Health "Complete" Bill plays for 1:41 on the tune Paraclesus. Steve Hillage is on that song also.

Oh well, at least I wasn't totally mistaken then, so that's some consolation. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 17 minutes ago at 14:03
^Actually on National Health "Complete" Bill plays for 1:41 on the tune Paraclesus. Steve Hillage is on that song also.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 23 minutes ago at 12:57
To be honest, I made a mistake including National Health and Pierre Moerlen's Gong here, because although Bill Bruford was an early member of both bands, he doesn't actually appear on any of their albums. Embarrassed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 hours 39 minutes ago at 09:41
^ Paul, It's like something I sometimes do for ones that some might question as sufficiently relevant.    

^^ David, I agree with you. Constructive criticism and cordially sharing one's concerns is good. I think. I think it's important to be able to take constructive criticism well, and I like having such discussions at the forum.

It's when one gets lots of negativity and people making the same kind of criticism again and again that it can get me down. Move on. Many of those who will complain in various topics will not even back up their criticisms nor respond when one tries to explain one's thinking in my experience, and it can seem very snarky and petty. Often people, including myself, could be a lot more thoughtful, charitable and understanding. I think the OP makes the purpose clear enough (projects that include Bruford at some point), and now by highlighting the albums without Bruford it makes it clearer. Somehow I would still feel uncomfortable voting for a non-Bruford one although the only album I know and really like in this poll is In the Court. But if that is an issue, it is now easier to ignore the non-Bruford ones. Nothing wrong with voting for a non-Bruford one with how this is set up at all, just preference on my part (as well as my lack of knowledge).
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

While I think it's fair enough to add an album like Itchycock as long as it's clear. Paul has written in the OP "An eclectic bundle of artists and albums where the only link is drum legend Bill Bruford. This is the first in an all-inclusive series of polls featuring all of the bands and collaborative projects that Bill Bruford has ever been involved with (unless I've missed anyone out). I actually would not in the poll itself that ones that don't contain Bruford. Personally, I would rather just consider the albums that Bruford was involved with but I recognise that Paul likes to go broad and cover whole discographies starting from the beginning. One can always make ones own topics rather than complain about how others make them or critique them. Mind you, unless we try to actively support each others topics (to a reasonable extent) that might not make for a very good experience.

Paul, noting those not containing Bruford would be helpful and more informative to me. I actually would rather not vote for the ones without Bruford, but to know all of those would take research on my behalf. You could even just pan an asterisk beside each one without Bruford and note in the OP that those are not Bruford-involved albums. When it comes to series like this, I do want to feel like I'm learning something from it.
* Thanks for the tip. I'll do that from now on. * Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2025 at 23:19
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

One can always make ones own topics rather than complain about how others make them or critique them. Mind you, unless we try to actively support each others topics (to a reasonable extent) that might not make for a very good experience.

I don't think that it's a bad idea to tell one's thoughts about others' way of doing, as long as telling it in a considerate way, and by the way, when talking about a good experience, I definitely think that it's good to respect the OPs, or even that people ought to do it. Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2025 at 17:06
While I think it's fair enough to add an album like Itchycock as long as it's clear. Paul has written in the OP "An eclectic bundle of artists and albums where the only link is drum legend Bill Bruford. This is the first in an all-inclusive series of polls featuring all of the bands and collaborative projects that Bill Bruford has ever been involved with (unless I've missed anyone out). I actually would not in the poll itself that ones that don't contain Bruford. Personally, I would rather just consider the albums that Bruford was involved with but I recognise that Paul likes to go broad and cover whole discographies starting from the beginning. One can always make ones own topics rather than complain about how others make them or critique them. Mind you, unless we try to actively support each others topics (to a reasonable extent) that might not make for a very good experience.

Paul, noting those not containing Bruford would be helpful and more informative to me. I actually would rather not vote for the ones without Bruford, but to know all of those would take research on my behalf. You could even just pan an asterisk beside each one without Bruford and note in the OP that those are not Bruford-involved albums. When it comes to series like this, I do want to feel like I'm learning something from it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2025 at 16:42
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

A no-brainer - ITCOCK

The real no-brainer is that this album should not even be in such a poll. Wacko

While I won't put it quite that way, I think that all this kind of polls would be much more interesting and prolific if they were historically correct, e.g. this poll series only included the albums on which Bruford actually participated.

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ABWH from this list.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2025 at 15:02
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

In the Court, albeit according to the Bruford's Bundle premise, the 1st album with Bill sitting in should take its place, namely Larks Tongues.
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I can see your point, but on the other hand, I could hardly list Larks' Tongues in Aspic as being the first album by King Crimson. It's an all-inclusive poll, so I'll be including ALL of the albums by bands that Bruford has been involved with over the years, even if he doesn't appear on every album. Smile


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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

In the Court, albeit according to the Bruford's Bundle premise, the 1st album with Bill sitting in should take its place, namely Larks Tongues.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

King Crimson with Bill Bruford
1972-1974 Bill Bruford - drums, percussion
› 1981-1984 -//-
› 1994-1998 -//-
I'll get to Bill Bruford's King Crimson albums eventually. Thumbs Up


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King Crimson with Bill Bruford
1972-1974 Bill Bruford - drums, percussion
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2025 at 14:27
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

A no-brainer - ITCOCK

The real no-brainer is that this album should not even be in such a poll. Wacko
I have you to thank for reminding me to include Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe, even if you don't think King Crimson should be included here. Smile
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

A no-brainer - ITCOCK

The real no-brainer is that this album should not even be in such a poll. Wacko
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A no-brainer - ITCOCK
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UK. One of my favorite albums.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

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Was Bruford a member of Genesis too? I must have missed that line-up. Tongue
And one track from that tour (the Cinema show) features on 'Seconds out'.. his only (official) recording with the band.. there is also the Stafford Bingley Hall 1976 official film which features BB on all tracks.
There was a series of these posh (and expensive.. at the time) promotional photos commissioned so i think there was a supposition that he might hang around a bit longer! It probably wasnt really his scene but the potential earnings were tempting?Wink

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