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    Posted: September 16 2024 at 05:14
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Mike, please don't start a Global-warming denial highjack
For the record, I merely responded to what could be called a "global-warming activism highjack". Tongue

In all seriousness, I'm interested in the reasoning here. Is there evidence that the rate/severity of these wildfires tracks with CO2 emissions? Or is it due to increased reporting that we perceive an increase? Do we react differently to them? Did we change our strategies to combat them? Is it a combination of everything?
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I think arson is another reason that there are so many fires. 
Unless there are pyromaniacs (which is of course more than a possibility), arson fire are often started in regions where there is land speculations (real estate or mining value). Not sure it is the case in most of the Canadian Shield. 
 
Sure, Arson for profit.  However, many arsonists set fires for pleasure.  It's a sad fact.  My husband is a professional firefighter. A few years ago, he showed me a sped-up satellite image of Canada.  Over 20 fires became visible within 24 hours.  The fires occurred over a huge swath of Canada. That doesn't prove arson, but it certainly suggests arson.  Sure, Mother Nature could have been responsible for some of the fires...but all of them?  

It is a definite possibility, indeed.
Most of them are definitely human-started, but maybe not intentionally so. 
Even a splinter/shard of glass present/abandoned for a decade can act as a magnifying glass on a very dried out forest ground and a scorching sun.


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I lived in Canada 20 years (Toronto & Montreal) from 70 to 90 (age 7 to 27), so I naturally went "up-North" - cottage country in both provinces,but also  sometimes going further 'Up-North" than vacation lands. 
I'm speaking of Churchill/Moosonee on the Hudson/James Bay and the Grande River dams (Hydro-Quebec), and believe men there is little human demographic pressures up there, but its activities can be quite destructive for the environment.
Where lumber-jacking on the Canadian Shield is +/- the only activity (let's face it, it's not the lumber-jacking firms that want these forest fires). Of course, behind the forest industry is the mining industry (which are much less "angelic") but these Pre-Cambrian soils are not very interesting in terms of ores.

Now of course, the Okanagan valley out west (between the two chains of mountains) is a very different story. 


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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We've been impacted across the pond with smokes reaching some parts of Europe

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I think arson is another reason that there are so many fires. 

Unless there are pyromaniacs (which is of course more than a possibility), arson fire are often started in regions where there is land speculations (real estate or mining value). Not sure it is the case in most of the Canadian Shield. 
 




Sure, Arson for profit.  However, many arsonists set fires for pleasure.  It's a sad fact.  My husband is a professional firefighter. A few years ago, he showed me a sped-up satellite image of Canada.  Over 20 fires became visible within 24 hours.  The fires occurred over a huge swath of Canada. That doesn't prove arson, but it certainly suggests arson.  Sure, Mother Nature could have been responsible for some of the fires...but all of them?  
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I think arson is another reason that there are so many fires. 

Unless there are pyromaniacs (which is of course more than a possibility), arson fire are often started in regions where there is land speculations (real estate or mining value). Not sure it is the case in most of the Canadian Shield. 
 


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^It's climate change. The weather is more violent and destructive every year due to humans.

What type of evidence do you base this claim on?
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I think arson is another reason that there are so many fires. 
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So we’ll be staying in Revelstoke instead of Jasper, but still driving the Icefields Parkway to the Columbia Icefields adventure, before turning round, driving back as far as Lake Louise and then heading off on the other highway….

And only today did we hear about the potential Air Canada strike/shutdown, after it was averted at the last minute!!! Our travel company had not messaged us about it so not sure what would have happened if it was going ahead (we fly on Wednesday 😎)

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^ Yep, wildfires keep increasing in number and virulence yearly. What hath the hand of man wrought. 
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^It's climate change. The weather is more violent and destructive every year due to humans.
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It has become every year that we have terrible raging fires, and we often are clogged by smoke out here on the West Coast.  That said, this is so sad as Jasper is such a beautiful and historic town and a breathtaking area and I care deeply about nature and green initiatives.  It can feel like the world is on fire.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

A symbol of hope. Taken as I drove into Jasper in 2007.
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Wow, that’s beautiful! Where are you based in Canada JD?
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A symbol of hope. Taken as I drove into Jasper in 2007.
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8 weeks today my wife and I should be staying in Jasper as part of our once-in-a-lifetime fly drive through the Rockies. As far as I can tell our hotel is still standing, but 40% of buildings are gone and it’s not over☹️

My thoughts go out to all those currently affected 😢
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