Disappointing follow-up albums

Hi,

Not sure about that at all ... the material for "Animals" was being played during the WYWH tour and it is in all the bootlegs. The 3 pieces were different, and the "space rock" piece (Sheep) was turned into a Roger Waters song, though the playing of it Live at the Anaheim Stadium was exceptional with Rick's keyboards literally dominating things.

I think they cleaned up the 3 pieces well, however, the original "Raving and Drooling" was to me, better than what Roger did with it ... this older version fit with "Astronomy Domine" and "Interstellar Overdrive", and other spacey far out stuff, that obviously Roger wanted to get rid of ... I doubt Nick didn't like it, since in his shows he has been doing the old stuff for us to enjoy ... something that both Dave and Roger have lost a taste for.

My take is, that both Dave and Roger are too set in their notes and chords and think that the compositions are better because they can screw around with a DAW and create something, and this would be a reason why they dislike the early stuff that had a lot of improvisation and undefined moments where they could do something different, which they obviously now feel that it was just kids screwing around, and not serious music ... and to me, that is very disrespectful to the other 2 members ... and I do not feel that Dave's solo work is anywhere near the quality of PF in its heyday ... and in fact, I find it "cheap" and just rock'n'roll (for lack of a better term) ... when compared to the moods, the creativity and the visuals that their older material carried, which their lyrics CURRENTLY do NOT. It's like their words are more important ... and honestly ... I don't need that any more than you do!

Hi,

My thoughts are that the artist has the option to do something else ... we, as fans, do not have the right to decide what the artist should do at all ... but sometimes, we think that as "critics" that we are more important than the artist and his/her output. This is one of the reasons why I do not do as many reviews of rock albums as I would like to ... I would love to see more folks separate their "favorites" for something else about the art of it all and how it grew in the past 500/700 years. It wasn't about the fans, all the way to the start of the 20th Century (more or less) when all of a sudden we got to see reviews of the new music, and Stravinsky threw people for loops, Debussy was booed ... and so on ... and to their credit they could fly a finger high, now ... they stood up for their work, although this might be different if there were no "changes" in the group ... but you and I know that different combinations yield different results, so it would be best to not expect the same thing.

I consider a "band" an artist ... and this  might be the difference between our words ... Yes is still Yes despite the different keys, for example. However, it seems to me that the majority of folks simply discuss all the music as SONGS ... for which they drop their coins. That is not me as a music appreciation person, and one that has been close to many artists during my life, and some are much better, stronger and appreciated than how rock fans differ when they don't like something, which is the saddest side of this whole adventure ... no one that plays music for a living wants to hear that ... and they better be strong inside to be able to ignore the comments ... many of which have nothing to do with music or the artist whatsoever.

verslibre wrote: ... As the saying goes, I calls 'em like I sees 'em. ...

But that is about you, not the artist! Heck, he/she might as well be a dishwasher in a restaurant for all that matters!  ... just another dirty dish getting cleaned up!

Hi,

I would think that this seems like a lot more of a preference than a band issue. You liked the earlier stuff and musician, and the "replacement" is not good enough. Then we have the massive changes in a band like KC and all it does is send us all into a tiffy, because things are so different, and yet, they get played 30/40 years later in their shows ... and something of that nature would not be an observation of the whole thing going downhill but  a change to something else. Again, I would look at this as an artist decision, and us, the fans, not  liking it or thinking it is inferior is an external matter, not necessarily related to the band and its members ... 

This is a scary part ... people thinking one thing is better than the other because it was better received, and not quite appreciated as it was before ... times change, folks change, and we're suggesting that our favorite bands can not change with the times, place, equipment, and such at all, because it won't be as good as what we liked?

I keep thinking that it is a fan problem. Not an artist problem! But heck, sometimes, it's difficult to not say something ... I mean, after BAD, how could anyone do better or be more interesting? So yeah, it's easy to say something, but again, we did not take into consideration the drive and the workmanship that the artist took to try and live to that next release, and fan reaction ... the question is, are you an artist, or just a crowd pleaser for the money?