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    Posted: February 05 2024 at 18:52
In any order

Ozric Tentacles (1989) Pungent Effulgent
Hawkwind (1985) The Chronicle of the Black Sword
David Torn (1987) Cloud About Mercury
Vangelis (1980) See You Later
Begnagrad (1982) Begnagrad
Modrý Efekt (1981) 33
Igra Staklenih Perli (1980) Vrt Svetlosti
Tako (1980) U vreći za spavanje
Smak (1981) Zašto ne volim sneg
Popol Vuh (1981) Sei Still, Wisse ICH BIN

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 29 2024 at 21:34
I've read that the 80s sucks by more than one person, but I love the 80s. Focusing on what is in PA (and there is a heck of a lot that I love and think progressive outside of PA)...

1980-1984

    Abus Dangereux - Le quatrième mouvement (1980, Jazz-Rock, Zeuhl)
    Laurie Anderson - Big Science (1982, Art Pop, Experimental, Electronic)
    Aksak Maboul - Un peu de l'âme des bandits (1980, Rock in Opposition)
    Art Bears - The World as It Is Today (1981, RIO/ Avant Prog)
    Art Zoyd - Génération sans futur (1980, Rock in Opposition)
    Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le jour où brûleront les cités (1981, R.I.O.)
    Art Zoyd - Phase IV (1982, R.I.O.)
    Art Zoyd - Les espaces inquiets (1983, R.I.O.)
    Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino (1982, Art Rock)
    Bobby Beausoleil and The Freedom Orchestra - Lucifer Rising (1980, Psych Rock)
    David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) (1980, Art Rock)
    Glenn Branca - The Ascension (1981, No Wave) (don't think he is in PA, but felt kind of weird leaving this out)
    Kate Bush - Never for Ever (1980, Art/Progressive Pop)
    Kate Bush - The Dreaming (1982, Art/Progressive Pop)
    Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station (1980, Exp./Art Rock)
    Cardiacs - The Seaside (1984, Art Punk)
    Codona - Codona 2, 1981, Jazz Fusion/ Indo Prog/Raga Rock)
    Codona - Codona 3 (1983, Jazz Fusion/ Indo Prog/Raga Rock)
    Lindsay Cooper - The Gold Diggers (1983, Avant Prog)
    Holger Czukay, Jah Wobble & Jaki Liebezeit - Full Circle (1982, Krautrock)
    Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance (1984, Darkwave, Gothic Rock)
    Dün - Eros (1981, Avant-Prog, Zeuhl)
    Eskaton - Ardeur (1980, Zeuhl)
    Eskaton - 4 Visions (1981, Zeuhl)
    Eskaton - Fiction (1983, Zeuhl)
    Fabio Frizzi - L'aldilà/ The Beyond (1981, Horror Synth/ RPI)
    Fabio Frizzi - Paura nella città dei morti viventi (1982, Film Score, RPI)
    Peter Gabriel - 3/Melt (1980, Art Rock)
    Patrick Gauthier - Bébé Godzilla, 1981, Zeuhl)
    Goblin - Tenebre, 1982, Film Score, Electro-Disco, RPI)
    Peter Hammill - A Black Box (1980, Art Rock)
    Itoiz - Ezekiel, 1980, Prog Folk)
    Kitaro - Silk Road II (1980, Electronic)
    Kraftwerk - Computerwelt (1981, Synth Pop, Electronic)
    Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar (1981, Avant-Prog, Zeuhl)
    Magma - Rétrospective Vol. 1 & 2 (1981, Zeuhl, Jazz-Rock)
    News From Babel - Work Resumed on the Tower (1984, Avant-Prog)
    Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Penguin Cafe Orchestra (1981, Chamber Jazz)
    Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Broadcasting From Home (1984, Chamber Music)
    Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo tutti i suoi problemi (1980, Avant-Prog, Canterbury Sound)
    Jean-Paul Prat - Masal (Jazz-Rock, Zeuhl)
    Present - Triskaidékaphobie (1980, RIO/Avant Prog)
    Rahmann - Rahmann (1980, Avant Prog, Jazz-Rock, Zeuhl)
    The Residents - Mark of the Mole (1981, Experimental)
    The Residents - The Tunes of Two Cities (1982, Art Pop, Experimental)
    The Residents & Renaldo and The Loaf - Title in Limbo (1983, Exp. Rock)
    Terry Riley "Celestial Valley" (Shri Camel, 1980, Minimalism, Electronic)
    Slapp Happy "Charlie 'n Charlie" (Slapp Happy or Slapp Happy, 1980, Art Pop)
    Snakefinger - Greener Postures (1980, Zolo, Exp. Rock)
    David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees (1984, Art Pop)
    Tangerine Dream - Tangram (1980, Berlin School, Progressive Electronic)
    A Thinking Plague - ...A Thinking Plague, 1984, Avant-Prog
    This Heat - Deceit (1981, Exp. Rock, Post-Punk)
    Univers Zéro - Ceux du dehors (1982, Rock in Opposition)
    Univers Zéro - Uzed (1984, R.I.O.)
    Von Zamla - Zamlaranamma (1982, R.I.O.)
    Wha-Ha-Ha - Shinutokiwa Betsu (1981, Avant Prog)
    Yog Sothoth - Yog Sothoth (Avant Prog, 1984)
    Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor (1980, Rock in Opposition)
    Zanov - In Course of Time (1983, Progressive Electronic, Berlin School)


1985-1989:

    After Dinner - Paradise of Replica (1989, Art/Avant Pop/Folk, Japan)
    Art Zoyd - Le mariage du ciel et de l'enfer (Rock in Opposition, 1985, France)
    Art Zoyd - Berlin (1987, Rock in Opposition, 1985, France)
    Kate Bush - Hounds of Love (1985, Art Pop, England)
    Kate Bush - The Sensual World (1989, Art Pop, England)
    Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade (1986, Avant Prog, Art Punk, England)
    Cardiacs - Big Ship (1987, Art Punk, England)
    Cardiacs - A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window (1988, Art Punk, US)
    Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea (1989, Art Punk, England)
    Coil - Horse Rotorvator (1986, Industrial, England)
    Current 93 - Earth Covers Earth (1988, Neofolk, England)
    Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal (1985, Neoclassical Darkwave, Gothic Rock, Australia)
    Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (1987, Neoclassical Darkwave, Australia)
    Dead Can Dance - The Serpent's Egg (1988, Neoclassical Darkwave, Australia)
    Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Ecophony Rinne (1986, Tribal Ambient, Japan)
    Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Symphonic Suite AKIRA (1988, Tribal Ambient, Japan)
    Hellebore - Il y a des jours (1985, Avant Prog, France)
    Miriodor - Rencontres (1986, Progressive Jazz/Rock, Canada)
    Miriodor - Miriodor (1988, Avant Prog/Jazz, Canada)
    News From Babel - Letters Home (1986, Avant Prog, England)
    Present - Le poison qui rend fou (1985, Rock in Opposition, Belgium)
    The Residents - God in Three Persons (1988, Exp./Avant Rock, US)
    Shub-Niggurath - Shub-Niggurath (1985, Zeuhl, Avant Prog, France_
    Shub-Niggurath - Les morts vont vite (1986, Zeuhl, Avant Prog, France)
    Swans - Children of God (1987, Exp./ Gothic, Rock, US)
    Swans - The Burning World (1989, Neofolk/ Gothic Ruck, US)
    David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive (1987, Art Pop, England)
    Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden (1988, Post/Art Rock, England)
    Thinking Plague - Moonsongs (1986, Avant Prog, US)
    Thinking Plague - In This Life (1989, Avant Prog, US)
    Univers Zéro - Heatwave (1986, Rock in Opposition, Belgium)
    Robert Wyatt - Old Rottenhat (1985, Canterbury Scene, England)
    John Zorn - Spillane (Avant-Garde, 1987, US)


Edited by Logan - January 29 2024 at 21:44
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^ So, that is also a part of the 1980s Progressive Rock, even not so few of the "true dinosaur albums" went beyond 
the borderline of the genre.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

My definition of "true dinosaur albums":

Albums by artists who had been active more than 10 years. Big smile

What can be said to be common about the "true dinosaur albums"? Well, they tend to be more commercial and less artistically ambitious, 
even it of course not always happens.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

If you care about the perception of this forum, ....

I have to admit, I love Progressive Rock more than PA, so that is much my starting point. 
Or more correctly now, I love Progressive music more than PA, so that is much my starting point. 


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

If you care about the perception of this forum, ....

I have to admit, I love Progressive Rock more than PA, so that is much my starting point. 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

While I like lots of albums I deem Prog from the 80s, I will highlight just two now: Eskaton's 4 Visions and Jean-Paul Prat's Masal. Masal remains an underrecognised/ underheard Prog album, imo, that is awesome.


I've never heard this before. Embarrassed I like!
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Yeah, PA would be less interesting without you, David.

thanks  Smile
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^Yeah, PA would be less interesting without you, David. Also, I was banned from PE, so it's no longer of interest to me.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Have you tried the Progressive Ears board? I just wonder if it might satisfy you more.
I'm afraid, if I left the PA forum, you would miss me too much. Big smile

Yeah, I would miss you. But interesting to compare forums.

Actually, I've done it, but I don't find Progressive Ears to be more interesting, on the contrary.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Have you tried the Progressive Ears board? I just wonder if it might satisfy you more.


I'm afraid, if I left the PA forum, you would miss me too much. Big smile


Yeah, I would miss you. But interesting to compare forums.

While I like lots of albums I deem Prog from the 80s, I will highlight just two now: Eskaton's 4 Visions and Jean-Paul Prat's Masal. Masal remains an underrecognised/ underheard Prog album, imo, that is awesome.

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Did anyone mention Tribute yet? Very good Swedish band from that decade. They were in the symph direction but not neo.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear!  

The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin.  Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime. 

I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land.  Sorry, 1979, oh well! 


Fantastic song. I will have to check out the album. Clap
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Have you tried the Progressive Ears board? I just wonder if it might satisfy you more.

I'm afraid, if I left the PA forum, you would miss me too much. Big smile
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For different reasons, I won't continue this discussion here.
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^ Not to go from a Silly Puppy to a Snarky Puppy, but train wrecks and disasters generally get lots of views.

David, like it or not, what I described is the way things have worked for many years here, and a decision was made on this through an agreement with Admin before 2010. One issue with rules and guidelines is that they tend to be written as more black and white than is desirable because nuance is hard to get for some, some people will tend to bend the rules to the point of breaking them, give an inch and they'll take a mile sometimes, and subjectivity does come into play. Those original rules were ultimately agreed on and written by the select few, admin ratified, so one might say that the strongest ones decided everything.... Except that there have been discussions on site issue involving numerous people and suggestions have been welcomed as long as people are not trying to "force" the issues. We have not wanted this forum to become a free-for-all and at the same time we want to try to be accommodating and flexible to an extent.

I have received complaints about your behaviour, and I wanted to try to gently step in to explain things and suggest curbing your behaviour. Please stop harping on about it, and there was no need to bring it up cross topics. If you care about the perception of this forum, that does not help improve its look.

One of my favourite sentences in the Site Rules and Guidelines topic is "This is a very relaxed and inclusive forum. These rules and guidelines are intended to help you to get the most out of it. We hope you will enjoy your time with us."
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But I'm afraid that this more drama won't make siLLy puPPy haPPy. LOL

And can we at least afterall agree that "my" threads tend to have many readers? Big smile






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Det kalder jeg at tale med STORE BOGSTAVER, while Paul would ask if it's an eye test. Big smile








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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

<snip>, <snip>, <snip>....

The Roches are not included in PA.


I'm soooooooooooo terribly, incredibly, hopelessly fed up with your prog definition fundamentalism....
And since I'm not a very unique person, I think I'm not the only one.

I guess, I hope, but I'm not sure, that you haven't read Logan's very polite post here above. It is so polite that maybe the message wasn't clear.

STOP BOTHERING EVERYBODY WITH YOUR PROG DEFINITION FUNDAMENTALISM !

You are not PA's Morality Police !


In 20 minutes in three different threads you are harassing the forum users with your dogmatic attitude. Please stop it

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