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    Posted: October 01 2023 at 16:49
Originally posted by zeb1981 zeb1981 wrote:

Anyone else waiting for a CD Repess of "Good Morning" by Daevid Allen
WHY is this album IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND !?!??!!?!?!?!


I remember Good Morning being released on CD in the late 80s on the Virgin label...along with Angel's Egg and You. If Good Morning had been re-released or remastered after that then I must have missed it. I haven't seen it being available since the late 80s. It's definitely my favorite along with Now Is The Happiest Time Of Your Life..which also seems to be out of print.
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Anyone else waiting for a CD Repess of "Good Morning" by Daevid Allen
WHY is this album IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND !?!??!!?!?!?!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


 1 stars 1982: Daevid Allen - Divided Alien Playbax 80 - http:///www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ly9kvfq-dUILzIE3_tn8ncp7FR6wbzFs4
 2 stars 1990: Daevid Allen - Ja-Am: Seven Drones - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZ0SruqsqU

OUCH, I LOVE all of these 3 albums, maybe not 5 star albums...but
 N-existe pas! 3 1/2 stars
Divided Alien Playbax 4 stars of not 4 1/2 !!!!!!
Seven Drones : Since i always falls asleep to this, it`s a 5 / 5 to me.......


And the "New" Gong is totally legit to me, I even prefer "Rejoice" / "The Universe..." to the very last with Daevid called "I See You" - but even that one is great !!!

Gongzilla
Planet Gong
Mother Gong
Daevid Allen`s Gong
Pierre Moerlen`s Gong
Mother Gong
Acid Mother Gong
New York Gong...........

Who cares !?!? All of this and more is so great !!!!!!
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1979: Daevid Allen - N-existe pas!

This is a really interesting and good album. The song "333" is nicely spacey, "No Other than the Mother is My Song" is a great melodic composition in the Allen/Gong style, "The Turkeybirds Breakfast" captures Daevid's zany side, and "Non God Will Not Go On or the Wrong Way to be Right" (the best track, IMO) has a proggy groove similar to "Master Builder" from the album You.
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DAEVID ALLEN    Gong but not forgotten: the magic and the madness of Daevid Allen (1938-2015). Broken Heart He comes from a land Down Under, where women glow and men chunder, but Daevid Allen is as firmly rooted in the Canterbury Scene as the Archbishop of Canterbury himself, having co-founded firstly Soft Machine and then Gong, with almost as many offshoots and branches of Gong as Barclays Bank. Smile

 3 stars 1976: Daevid Allen & Euterpe - Good Morning! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGPRENFJQmJyErt1Uzukp1oh1kiyynGv5
 4 stars 1977: Daevid Allen - Now is the Happiest Time of Your Life - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfzHH9Ab83_eJFHQc_jqWNiIOj33nJZuQ
 1 stars 1982: Daevid Allen - Divided Alien Playbax 80 - http:///www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ly9kvfq-dUILzIE3_tn8ncp7FR6wbzFs4
 2 stars 1990: Daevid Allen - Ja-Am: Seven Drones - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZ0SruqsqU
 2 stars 1990: Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth & Harry Williamson - Stroking the Tail of the Bird - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYjWO-XY5eg
 3 stars 1992: Daevid Allen & Kramer - Who's Afraid? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxwjEvtPUM
 3 stars 1995: Daevid Allen - Dreamin' a Dream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqEJOj3Curg


Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at Central Television Studios, Nottingham 1990



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Originally posted by sydbarrett2010 sydbarrett2010 wrote:

Hi, I'm hoping to get an answer on where to start with Gong, are they really that big a deal? I just listened to Radio Gnome Invisible from Flying Teapot and I'm, well not impressed (not that I didn't like it), but I guess I know what's going on with them. Recommendations would be appreciated.


There are several Gong bands which are an extension of the Gong family. This particular album Flying Teapot starts the story of the Planet Gong or is part of the early stages of the mythology of the Planet Gong along with its predecessors Majick Brother and Camembert Electrique.

When I first heard the album 40 years ago it sounded different from everything else. I can certainly see the album not having the same impact in 2023...to most people Checking it out the first time.

But even 40 some years ago Angel's Egg and You were generally more impressive...even though music is subjective sometimes it can possible for a band to record an album and later after releasing it not being too fond of it. To an extent it can be a fact that a band recorded and released a weak album . Weak when compared to their other albums regardless of the hundreds of people who like the album. People who like it do not perceive it as weak..however regarding composition and playing levels it is.

To me the story of the Planet Gong was zany not unlike a weird cartoon or insane children's story. That's why I like Flying Teapot really. It's insane storytelling combined with a theatrical vibe.

Gong released material in the 90s and 2000s that I really liked. It was generally more modern without losing the essence of the original style. Sometimes they can be goofy or silly in a strange way not unlike Zappa.

The fusion Gong...instrumental Gong...was the trademark of Pierre Morlean...Those albums are really outstanding..but they don't differ too much from a standard Fusion..Jazz Rock album by Brand X or possibly others in the 70s using a Fusion formula. Gong were pretty unique in the area of percussion. The xylophone gave them character.

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

The current line up of Gong has been in place for a decade and was blessed by Daevid before he left this plane of existence. All the albums are pretty good, keep the Gong vibe, and they are great live so I'm gonna cut them some slack on keeping the name.

Hi,

They are fine with me ... with or without Daevid's blessings. But I imagine that it is impossible to be an "original" since there is only one Daevid ... I have heard at least 2 CD's, but have not bought any of them ... go figure ... I kinda thought there was much more demanding and interesting stuff around for my tastes, which is not to say that this version of GONG is not good. They are fine!
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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

I would think that if there was a booklet...


There IS a booklet. Why do you doubt it? Here is page 1...
...

Hi,

I didn't say there wasn't ... I said that Johnny G would probably know about it and might even have already set it out on a CD with various bits and pieces from Daevid. That's why I stated that GAS would have known about it. 

I never doubted it because Daevid had fun coloring and drawing stuff in many places and did so for at least an hour here in Portland! And there was some stuff for his show in Santa Barbara at "The Wolf" ... so you saying I was doubting it, is incorrect!
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The current line up of Gong has been in place for a decade and was blessed by Daevid before he left this plane of existence. All the albums are pretty good, keep the Gong vibe, and they are great live so I'm gonna cut them some slack on keeping the name.
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Here is a link to the full booklet, in PDF format (13 MB)...
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

I would think that if there was a booklet...


There IS a booklet. Why do you doubt it? Here is page 1...
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

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As Moshkito says, it's no longer GonG, and since a lot of years, but I think it's a good album not too difficult for starters and with some hints of the old GonG here and there.

Hi,

There's the rub as the Bard would say!

A "hint" for me, is not original and has little meaning. The old "GONG" was very original and did not exactly copy anyone and you might be hard pressed (as would I) in saying ... that's a bit of this here ... that's a bit of that there ... and so on.

I have no issue with the "new" GONG ... they can do whatever they please ... but calling themselves GONG is more of a publicity thing than it is meaningful otherwise. Without that name, they would not sell that much or as many people give it a listen. That's not to say they do not have anything nice or interesting, but sadly the "creativity" is left behind to stuff that is seen and heard all over 100's of other "progressive" rock bands out there. I would, almost, call it "pedestrian" and not original. GAS (Gong's label) had that issue before ... many solo albums, and far out and special things ... and no one knew much about them ... and you did not review the Glissando stuff or the Tibetan thing at all ... and still no one knows any of that stuff because Daevid and/or Gong is not on the name first!

But this is PA ... and the majority of folks that post only like "the classics" because they don't listen enough to new material. Very simple. And then hearing RV do her thing, seems far out and neat. 

Pal ... it's easy to do what folks already know ... but these folks don't have the guts to tackle something that is not as well known or heard ... and in this area, only Guy Guden stands out consistently ... he still plays more new material than anyone, and his choices for the show, even includes stuff going back to the 50's ... his musical knowledge and appreciation for NOW is what it is about ... but we do not have enough appreciation for NOW ... and think we have to bark and pee at the graven tree of TW so we remind ourselves of what "progressive" is ... it ain't progressive. It's theatrical, first!


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They've obviously put out a ton of music.

Maybe sample Angel's Egg, Expresso II / Gazeuse!, and some later on. Those two albums mentioned sound nothing alike.


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Originally posted by zeb1981 zeb1981 wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

[QUOTE=zeb1981]What not mentioned :
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BTW ... three drummers, and 3 different Gong's ... 

Gong had many more drummers than 3


Hi,

That's over their lifetime ... but in their first go round in America starting in 1995 (I think it was), it was Pip. the next tour was Pierre. Their 3rd go around (1999 SF Progressive Music Festival) had Chris.

Of these three my preference is for the Pierre version ... very powerful and totally far out.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

[QUOTE=zeb1981]What not mentioned :
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BTW ... three drummers, and 3 different Gong's ... 

Gong had many more drummers than 3
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Originally posted by zeb1981 zeb1981 wrote:

What not mentioned :
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About Time (New York Gong)
Floating Anarchy (Planet Gong)
Acid Mothers Gong : either one of the two live albums !!
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I gave those three albums a mention near the top of Page 1, along with 55 other Gong albums. Wink
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Originally posted by zeb1981 zeb1981 wrote:

What not mentioned :
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About Time (New York Gong)
Floating Anarchy (Planet Gong)
Acid Mothers Gong : either one of the two live albums !!
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Hi,

NY Gong was interesting, however I think the recording and time was not exactly a good one for Daevid, and I think it shows.

Floating Anarchy is my FAVORITE "acid rock" album of all time ... welcome magick brothers and mystic sisters ... and off they go ... the last piece alone is a massive blowout. It's the meditative hard rock, if we have to describe it. And it's excellent!

Acid Mothers Gong is a very nice live album. Not sure it is great as the guests were a bit over the top, however the Gong folks maintained really well and made the show a bit better than just a thrashing show with Gong. But several moments stand out really well.

Their LIVE stuff in the later years before Daevid passed away were also very good and included Steve Hillage, that added a really nice touch to things, and in many ways was much closer to the Trilogy Gong, than otherwise, but it was clear that even after so many years doing their own thing, they had not lost a note or a touch. Miquette's added touches also helped, as some of the Live versions of Gong were missing keyboards really bad! Made it a bit "rock'ier" but also took away a bit of the far out tripping effects and made less room for Gilly.

BTW ... three drummers, and 3 different Gong's ... in their 1st American tour it was Pip ... and the well known picture that I took here in Portland that they used for several years. The 2nd tour was Pierre Moerlin. The next tour was the drummer that came from Soul2Soul (I think it was) ... the first one was with a jazzy touch, Pierre's version was very much more rock touched and strong, and Chris' version was more on the trippy side of the music ... still very good ... but very different. I have a tape (no idea what condition it is in ... have to check!!!) made by Mike (was the sound man in those trips and became the bass player in Allen's later material) is the Pierre version which I will take an ear to right away.
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What not mentioned :

Acid Motherhood
Zero to Infinity
Time is The Key (Pierre Moerlens Gong)
About Time (New York Gong)
Floating Anarchy (Planet Gong)
Playbax`80 (Daevid Allen)
Good Morning (Daevid Allen)
Guru & Zero (Makoto Mango) (Daevid Allen and Acid Mother Temple)
Acid Mothers Gong : either one of the two live albums !!
Rejoice Im Dead
Expresso II (might have been mentioned, but "Heavy Tune" is the perfect intro to newbees !!!)

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Classics apart ( I love the trilogy and Shamal), I would suggest an underrated one that is Shapeshifter.
As Moshkito says, it's no longer GonG, and since a lot of years, but I think it's a good album not too difficult for starters and with some hints of the old GonG here and there.
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