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    Posted: June 12 2024 at 21:25
This will certainly be an unusual take and maybe one that isn't received very well.... but John Paul Jones would be my pick easily. I would be extremely interested to see what kind of prog music he could crank out of a mellotron, organ, piano, electric bass or any of the other various instruments he played. While Jimmy is typically seen as the mastermind behind the sound of the band, it is still true that some of their most unique sounding records feature a prolonged JPJ intro on a keyboard. He is a great musical mind and understands the art very well. 

I also believe that he would gel with nearly any artist that he recruited into his group, he seems eager to please and very likable. Whereas some of these other options being thrown out would most likely clash with their band mates and cause issues. 
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Vergilius - s/t (double album)

line up:
Nick D'Virgilio - drums
Virgil Donati - drums

track list:

disc 1
1. Inferno (5:02)
2. Purgatorio (9:11)
3. Paradiso (13:37)
4. Drum Improv (42:00)

disc 2
5. Drum Duel (69:42)

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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

My cornerstone would be someone like Roger Waters, if only he could get on with his cohorts. That aside he is/was a great lyricist, *architect, concepts & ideas man, and band leader.  Not to mention being a more than decent bassist & vocalist.

*in a musical sense


Actually, I think you are right. If only he could het on with the other members of the band... and yet, for a little while, they did get along... well enough to work together, and magic happened.


Up to around the time they were making 'Wish You Were Here' PF seemed to function in reasonable harmony with two artists (Wright & Gilmour) and two architects (Waters and Mason), but from the making of 'Animals' onwards Roger started taking more and more control, to the point of 'Final Cut' being more or less a Waters solo album.


I don't buy into the Waters dominated Animals album. On that one, the music for Dogs was written by Gilmour, as I understand, and Waters gets credits too because of the lyrics, and Dog takes almost half of the album, and is usually considered the favourite track on the album, so I think it's a fairly even album comoposition-wise.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

My cornerstone would be someone like Roger Waters, if only he could get on with his cohorts. That aside he is/was a great lyricist, *architect, concepts & ideas man, and band leader.  Not to mention being a more than decent bassist & vocalist.

*in a musical sense


Actually, I think you are right. If only he could het on with the other members of the band... and yet, for a little while, they did get along... well enough to work together, and magic happened.


Up to around the time they were making 'Wish You Were Here' PF seemed to function in reasonable harmony with two artists (Wright & Gilmour) and two architects (Waters and Mason), but from the making of 'Animals' onwards Roger started taking more and more control, to the point of 'Final Cut' being more or less a Waters solo album.
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

My cornerstone would be someone like Roger Waters, if only he could get on with his cohorts. That aside he is/was a great lyricist, *architect, concepts & ideas man, and band leader.  Not to mention being a more than decent bassist & vocalist.

*in a musical sense


Actually, I think you are right. If only he could het on with the other members of the band... and yet, for a little while, they did get along... well enough to work together, and magic happened.
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Someone beat me to Steven Wilson, so I am going to go a completely different direction.

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My cornerstone would be someone like Roger Waters, if only he could get on with his cohorts. That aside he is/was a great lyricist, *architect, concepts & ideas man, and band leader.  Not to mention being a more than decent bassist & vocalist.

*in a musical sense
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Mike Keneally. He can do it all, and he’s probably the friendliest “name” musician I’ve ever met.
Yes, the Great Mike Keneally is quite versatile, plays guitar and keyboards, is a fantastic composer, and an overall great guy, who can get along with anyone.
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Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

My cornerstone player would be Paul Mc Cartney because: 
 - he can get along with anybody
 - he can play any kind of music, His work with the Beatles and solo can prove that 
 - he works well in the studio or live on stage, 
 - he has a great, fun-loving, personality, that does not get caught up in interpersonal squabbles,
 - he is a virtuoso musician (not just bass player) 
 - he is all business yet very adaptable to any recording, creative, touring conditions,
 - is tireless, has boundless energy
 - LOVES music!

Awesome awesomeness! All of your points are valid and well-taken. I'm sold! (Ready to flesh out the rest of the band?)
 
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Originally posted by axeman axeman wrote:

If he would do it, I'd love to see a collaboration between Steven Wilson, with Steve Hackett as co-composer. 

Hackett can do compositions, including orchestra, so you have a complete range there. 
Plus, a great album is going to need a first-rate producer. Wilson has been remastering the greats, with much approval, so he's my idea of a producer for whatever project. 

Now this is a GREAT idea! 
I've always felt that Steve Hackett's solo career needed someone to kind of reign him in--an objective collaborateur.



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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Mike Keneally. He can do it all, and he’s probably the friendliest “name” musician I’ve ever met.

Another great one flying under the radar! Like Steve Unruh!

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^ Rather than dead funny, sorry that that comes across as a tasteless and bad dad joke. It's true that I only thought about living people for this exercise when I saw the topic, rather than a dream option or holographically/ virtually resurrected option.
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One issue I’d have with adopting Peart as the cornerstone of my band now is that he died. My choice would me more lively. .

I could do the rolling eyes thing but hey ho LOL
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If he would do it, I'd love to see a collaboration between Steven Wilson, with Steve Hackett as co-composer. 

Hackett can do compositions, including orchestra, so you have a complete range there. 
Plus, a great album is going to need a first-rate producer. Wilson has been remastering the greats, with much approval, so he's my idea of a producer for whatever project. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progmind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2022 at 08:24
My cornerstone player would be Paul Mc Cartney because: 
 - he can get along with anybody
 - he can play any kind of music, His work with the Beatles and solo can prove that 
 - he works well in the studio or live on stage, 
 - he has a great, fun-loving, personality, that does not get caught up in interpersonal squabbles,
 - he is a virtuoso musician (not just bass player) 
 - he is all business yet very adaptable to any recording, creative, touring conditions,
 - is tireless, has boundless energy
 - LOVES music!
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I have to admit, I've never been much of a Peart fan. He was a great drummer and lyricist, but I never found his playing particularly interesting, at least not to my ear. But that's just me.
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Mike Keneally. He can do it all, and he’s probably the friendliest “name” musician I’ve ever met.
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^ It’s not even so far-fetched that we one need accept some supernatural, unearthly heaven. Celebrities, including musicians are being resurrected digitally using holographic technology and other things. One could create a digital supergroup. “Ooh heaven is a place on earth”. Maybe like in a Black Mirror universe, dead and not dead musicians digital copies will be interacting and performing on servers.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

One issue I’d have with adopting Peart as the cornerstone of my band now is that he died. My choice would me more lively. I thought about someone who I thought would work well now for the kind of music I like. In terms of creativity when it comes to drummers, Christian Vander comes to mind (though I would rather go for someone a little younger for longevity). I think it would be very hard to convince me that Pearl has supplied more creativity than all the other drummers. He wouldn’t have been my choice as a dream go-to but to each their own. I don’t think he’s the most creative or versatile, and am not that big on Rush.

When originally thinking up the premises for this post, I really had in mind the artist in his/her prime--so I guess this would be a Prog-in-Heaven kind of Supergroup. (But then, in heaven, who knows, maybe Keith Emerson would chum up with Franz Liszt or Wolfy Mozart? Maybe Fripp would hang with Bach and Telemann. Maybe Eno and Czukay would become pals with Picasso, Cocteau and Satie. Maybe Liebezeit would become a Tibetan monk. etc., etc.)



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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


I like Dave Kerman too. Tatsuya Yoshida and Chris Cutler have been a couple other of my favourite drummers and creative talents that work as cornerstone.


Those 3 for me too, and they've all be involved in a number of different bands and have run at least one, Yoshida has been involved in a ridiculous amount of creative bands.



All three are creative, show versatility, have been involved in different projects and are accomplished musicians.   Tatsuya Yoshida has been an incredibly busy musician, and very creative projects. What energy on the kit and all of those projects. With Peart, I’m not aware of him doing much outside of Rush and I don’t know that he been really pushing the envelope throughout his career. I’m not knocking him, just sometimes surprised at the pedestal he is often put on both as a drummer and as a creative talent generally — seen many people who present the attitude that he is obviously the best despite their ignorance when it comes to a great many others, so contrarians respond that Peart is particularly overrated.
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