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    Posted: December 25 2021 at 21:34
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Gates, Fauci, and Daszak charged with Genocide in Court Filing

In a stunning 46-page legal filing to the International Criminal Court on December 6, an intrepid attorney and seven applicants accused Anthony Fauci, Peter Daszak, Melinda Gates, William Gates III, and twelve others of numerous violations of the Nuremberg Code. These included various crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined by the Rome Statutes, Articles 6, 7, 8, 15, 21, and 53.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/gates-fauci-and-daszak-charged-with-genocide-in-court-filing/article_76c6081c-61b8-11ec-ae59-7718e6d063ed.html


That's hilarious! I do so hope this trial goes ahead. As for your source:

"The Desert Review generally reports local news responsibly and with minimal bias; however, op-eds frequently promote dangerous pseudoscience and media conspiracy theories without evidence.

Overall, we rate The Desert Review Right-Center Biased and Questionable based on the frequent promotion of pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, and misinformation regarding covid-19."

From:The Desert Review - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com) 



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If any of these big fish decide to open up and plea bargain, the whole house of cards could come crumbling down! 

Gates, Fauci, and Daszak charged with Genocide in Court Filing

In a stunning 46-page legal filing to the International Criminal Court on December 6, an intrepid attorney and seven applicants accused Anthony Fauci, Peter Daszak, Melinda Gates, William Gates III, and twelve others of numerous violations of the Nuremberg Code. These included various crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined by the Rome Statutes, Articles 6, 7, 8, 15, 21, and 53.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/gates-fauci-and-daszak-charged-with-genocide-in-court-filing/article_76c6081c-61b8-11ec-ae59-7718e6d063ed.html
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

  Patents and independent scientists have confirmed that graphene is not only in inoculations but also many forms of consumables including food and beverages.

Graphene for medical use is still, as I undertand it, very much in the research phase and is particularly being tested for its application as an anti=cancer agent.

There is currenlty no evidence that graphene is being used in the current available Covid vaccines. If you can provide evidence or citations to support your above claims, I would certainly appreciate and be very interested in evaluating any such evidence or citation.

Thanks in advance.


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As has been the case with 5G and microchip technology, graphene has been the subject of several "trojan horse" conspiracy theories according to which governments or powerful individuals are supposedly seeking to remotely "control" people who receive some sort of mini device through coronavirus vaccines, or track their whereabouts through GPS.

This control could be exercised from 5G towers transmitting signals to people supposedly carrying graphene particles, one theory goes.

In another widely-disseminated claim, social media users alleged they had been "magnetized" by the vaccine, posting images of magnets, coins or cutlery allegedly attached to the arm in which they received the jab.

Some conspiracy theorists have claimed that vaccines containing graphene have altered people's "electromagnetic field" and that this can be fatal.

What is the truth?

To start with, none of the vaccines approved for use by the World Health Organization contain graphene or its derivative, graphine oxide.

From:Graphene: 'Miracle material' singled out for COVID conspiracies (phys.org)



The CDC and WHO are private for profit service corporations that have invested interests in pushing inoculations. Nothing on either site has a basis in reality. Patents and independent scientists have confirmed that graphene is not only in inoculations but also many forms of consumables including food and beverages.

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Points: 15272 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2021 at 19:29
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Why would the German or Austrian government single out this one person as a target for raiding and murdering out of the hundreds of hack scientists who spout Covid misinformation on a daily basis without obstruction? Makes zero sense to me.
 
Because he was the top carbon specialist in all of Germany. He had the smoking gun that graphene oxide and chemical derivatives were acting as nano-razor blades. His legal actions and expert testimony would certainly have brought down the entire government. Unless you connect many dots it will not make any sense.
 
This:
 
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

the elector-conductivity of graphene oxide in the jabs which is causing oxygen depletion through calcium ionization disruptions in tandem with high energy frequencies
 
is where the ridiculousness of the conspiracy theory lies. Most people don't know chemistry and therefore would probably not recognise the above as technobabble. And if one has a predilection towards conspiracy theories, then one is likely to be bamboozled by it.
 



The thing is that there comes a time when enough evidence extinguishes any possibility of being a theory. In the case of graphene oxide being added to food supplies, inoculations and other consumable goods, it's all quite easy to find in patents and money trails. When top experts in myriad fields confirm that such things are real then there is good reason to believe that they may indeed be correct. Keep in mind we are in the midst of serious info wars as the battle is for the consciousness of all of humanity. These things are also openly discussed in trade journals which most of the public does not have access to.

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Used to be that the term 'Tinfoil hat' was metaphoric.  Now not so much, I guess.
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As has been the case with 5G and microchip technology, graphene has been the subject of several "trojan horse" conspiracy theories according to which governments or powerful individuals are supposedly seeking to remotely "control" people who receive some sort of mini device through coronavirus vaccines, or track their whereabouts through GPS.

This control could be exercised from 5G towers transmitting signals to people supposedly carrying graphene particles, one theory goes.

In another widely-disseminated claim, social media users alleged they had been "magnetized" by the vaccine, posting images of magnets, coins or cutlery allegedly attached to the arm in which they received the jab.

Some conspiracy theorists have claimed that vaccines containing graphene have altered people's "electromagnetic field" and that this can be fatal.

What is the truth?

To start with, none of the vaccines approved for use by the World Health Organization contain graphene or its derivative, graphine oxide.

From:Graphene: 'Miracle material' singled out for COVID conspiracies (phys.org)
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Why would the German or Austrian government single out this one person as a target for raiding and murdering out of the hundreds of hack scientists who spout Covid misinformation on a daily basis without obstruction? Makes zero sense to me.
 
Because he was the top carbon specialist in all of Germany. He had the smoking gun that graphene oxide and chemical derivatives were acting as nano-razor blades. His legal actions and expert testimony would certainly have brought down the entire government. Unless you connect many dots it will not make any sense.
 
This:
 
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

the elector-conductivity of graphene oxide in the jabs which is causing oxygen depletion through calcium ionization disruptions in tandem with high energy frequencies
 
is where the ridiculousness of the conspiracy theory lies. Most people don't know chemistry and therefore would probably not recognise the above as technobabble. And if one has a predilection towards conspiracy theories, then one is likely to be bamboozled by it.
 
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Why would the German or Austrian government single out this one person as a target for raiding and murdering out of the hundreds of hack scientists who spout Covid misinformation on a daily basis without obstruction? Makes zero sense to me.


Because he was the top carbon specialist in all of Germany. He had the smoking gun that graphene oxide and chemical derivatives were acting as nano-razor blades. His legal actions and expert testimony would certainly have brought down the entire government. Unless you connect many dots it will not make any sense.

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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It's not what the truth is, it's making sure you have it or are doing everything possible to have it before you start spouting half-informed and reactionary claptrap which doesn't help anyone or any thing.

Unfortunately this can be more difficult than it sounds, the Internet only seving to exacerbate the problem.

A quick google search for Dr. Noak brings up site after site of hysterical posts using inflammatory language supporting the "murder" theory, with nary a dissenting or opposing opinion to be found (the echo chamber in full force). Whether this is because the story hasn't quite entered the mainstream or because opposing opinions are simply being overwhelmed by the passion of those advocating this theory, is difficult to assertain at the moment. After all, it is passion rather than logic that fuels and drives most conspiracy theories and logic can appear very weak in the face of passion.

What does seem apparent to me is that the internet, which was intended in large part as a way to diseminate information, has instead given a soapbox for the loudest idiots to spread misinformation.


His wife has supposedly stated that he was murdered. Of course none of us really know the exact truth but we should at least keep the possibility on the work table rather than just brushing it off as theory.

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Hi,

I'm looking up the Goon Anthology for any new conspiracies. We already got the one about shooting 100 penguins with one bullet, and the tea brigade in the island ... not to mention the climbing of the snow mountains from the inside ... but so far, there aren't any new ones to think of!

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The real stumbling block to uncovering satanic cults is that 'satanism' can only be defined as everyone else's religion but your own....

It has grown beyond religion to encompass anyone who holds opposing political views and even socio-economic factors.

It is easy for someone whose life isn't as succesful as they think it should be to blame some malevolent force, rather than take responsibility for their own life.

And "blood libel" is so popular amongst conspiracy fantasists.
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I think the CIA creates 90% of the most ludicrous "conspiracies" to discredit all the ones that are pointed to them.. It's funny that when the government admits to certain things (sometimes by FOIA requests, such as the Gulf of Tonkin lie), it's still considered "tin-foil hat" (another stupid phrase when someone has nothing else to say)... OR, people who need the confirmation from those who lie repeatedly (NYT, for example).

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Cults That Never Were: The Satanic Ritual Abuse Scare (SRAS)

Introduction

The satanic ritual abuse scare was a moral panic that began in the 1980’s in North America and lasted throughout much of the 1990’s. It was fueled by claims of Satan worship made up of several components:

  • Child and sexual abuse

  • Human ritual sacrifice
  • Teenage abduction rumors
  • Animal Mutilation
  • Claims of actual Satanists (The Church of Satan and Temple of Set)
  • Heavy metal rock and horrorcore music
  • Violent and fantasy games

During its time, the SRAS led to many criminal investigations based on little or no evidence of an actual occurrence of satanic activity or any criminal activity whatsoever...

...

The Creation of the Satanic Cult

With allegations of so many “evil” acts throughout the country, they all became attributed to a hypothetical “satanic cult.” All of these rumors merged in order to form one elaborate story. The social condition that emerged in the 1980’s produced an environment for these very different rumors to create one plausible story about an underground Satanic Cult that was operating secretly throughout the nation. Through media involvement and growing panic among concerned citizens, the “Satanic cult panic” grew into a North American pandemic. Several criminal charges were brought upon those accused of involvement in satanic cult activity, provoking national media coverage with a salacious position. By the mid-1990’s, skepticism grew concerning the realities of these allegations, and the rumors were eventually proven false.


From: https://www.people.vcu.edu/~dbromley/undergraduate/spiritualCommunity/SatanicCults.html



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- Dear Conspirationiçst friends, times are dim.
- Yes all our theories have been proven false

- this is yet another conspiration.

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Why would the German or Austrian government single out this one person as a target for raiding and murdering out of the hundreds of hack scientists who spout Covid misinformation on a daily basis without obstruction? Makes zero sense to me.
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It's not that conspiracies don't exist, ...

 ...Those are the only two pieces of absolutely solid, undeniable facts in the JFK case.   It's been fifty-eight years and we still don't know what happened, but if we ever do it has to be with correct information based on firm, scientifically verified evidence.


This is a problem that the US Government has helped create itself, with such things as the MKUltra experiments, the revelations of the Pentegon Papers and the secrecy that still surrounds the murder of JFK.

The mere fact that the US Government demonstrates a proclivity towards secrecy only serves to add legitimacy to the craziest theories,


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Cults That Never Were: The Satanic Ritual Abuse Scare (SRAS)

Introduction

The satanic ritual abuse scare was a moral panic that began in the 1980’s in North America and lasted throughout much of the 1990’s. It was fueled by claims of Satan worship made up of several components:

  • Child and sexual abuse

  • Human ritual sacrifice
  • Teenage abduction rumors
  • Animal Mutilation
  • Claims of actual Satanists (The Church of Satan and Temple of Set)
  • Heavy metal rock and horrorcore music
  • Violent and fantasy games

During its time, the SRAS led to many criminal investigations based on little or no evidence of an actual occurrence of satanic activity or any criminal activity whatsoever...

...

The Creation of the Satanic Cult

With allegations of so many “evil” acts throughout the country, they all became attributed to a hypothetical “satanic cult.” All of these rumors merged in order to form one elaborate story. The social condition that emerged in the 1980’s produced an environment for these very different rumors to create one plausible story about an underground Satanic Cult that was operating secretly throughout the nation. Through media involvement and growing panic among concerned citizens, the “Satanic cult panic” grew into a North American pandemic. Several criminal charges were brought upon those accused of involvement in satanic cult activity, provoking national media coverage with a salacious position. By the mid-1990’s, skepticism grew concerning the realities of these allegations, and the rumors were eventually proven false.


From: https://www.people.vcu.edu/~dbromley/undergraduate/spiritualCommunity/SatanicCults.html



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^ Way too much information.

It's not that conspiracies don't exist, it's that one must base the belief of a conspiracy on verifiable evidence rather than suspicion.   An example: We know Oswald had to be directly involved in the JFK shooting because he fled the Book Depository, went home, grabbed a pistol and slipped into a movie theater without paying.   That's not the behavior of an innocent man.   At the same time we know at least one other gun than Oswald's rifle was fired during the assassination because highly credible witnesses ~ cops, off-duty soldiers, veterans, journalists and at least one congressman ~ clearly smelled and saw gunsmoke hanging in Dealy Plaza which was impossible if there was just one rifle shooting six floors above the ground inside a building.

Whew... sorry for the JFK rant, but you see the point.   Those are the only two pieces of absolutely solid, undeniable facts in the JFK case.   It's been fifty-eight years and we still don't know what happened, but if we ever do it has to be with correct information based on firm, scientifically verified evidence.






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