Removing member rating stars as punishment

To summarise this thread somewhat:

- JD never had more than three stars (I had checked through cached pages going back quite some time).
- MO did lose a star when her Prog Reviewer status (and certain access that came with it) was removed which came down to a cost/risk-benefit analysis.
- I don't see losing stars as punishment, but as a security and trust issue as those stars give greater access.  There are various reasons why those would be removed, not just due to abuse from the user.  I tend to favour restorative justice over retributive justice, by the way.

Since this thread was based on a misremembrance that led to some misconception, and it has been addressed, I think it is time to close this topic.

In the future, to people generally, if you have similar questions please consider PMing an admin, express your concern clearly, and we will try our best to address it. Such topics can easily lead to and foster false assumptions and acrimony.



Edited by Logan - September 29 2021 at 19:56

I cannot remember a time when the OP had more than three stars. I can remember a few cases in which a Collab or a Prog Reviewer lost a star, sometimes for a few days, in a single case for some 10 years, and some for good. One or more were thrown overboard afterwards.

Edited by someone_else - September 29 2021 at 15:50

 

Man Overboard wrote: Logan wrote: "Prog Music lounge This section is for general discussions about Progressive music. Unless and until an artist is included in Prog Archives, they are not considered to be "prog". In other words, discussions in "Prog Music Lounge" should only be about groups/music currently included in Prog Archives, or about progressive music in general. If you wish to suggest a band for inclusion in the site, see "Suggest new Bands" below. For discussions on all other types of music see the "General music discussions" section below. N.B. In terms of the incorrect posting of threads, this is the most widely abused section of the forum. Please make sure you only create threads in this section which directly relate to Prog music."  Jesu Christo, this sounds like a commercial cabal for promotional purposes and no longer a place for prog music to be discussed or discovered. What's with the draconian stance? I never saw that in the rules--that attitude is exactly what I took and still take issue with. This forum and website, which many signed prog artists who are included in the Archives privately and publicly loathe for its cultural flaws, is not the ultimate arbiter of who or what is prog, no matter how much money circulates.

So you never saw that in the rules? You mean the rule that he LITERALLY COPIED AND PASTED INTO HIS REPLY FROM THE FORUM RULES AND GUIDELINES WRITTEN 16 YEARS AGO?

Site administrators do not operate in a vacuum. The issues brought forth here and in the previous thread you decided to throw a tantrum in were not somehow hidden from our view. Quite frankly, you decided to go to war with the most lenient and non-punitive member of our team. We have collectively found his actions to be more than fair where you are concerned. Assessing the events leading up to this point, I am afraid you will find no quarter elsewhere (there is some faux-Brit for you).

Man Overboard wrote: The issue is that my avant-garde prog music's credibility was established here on ProgArchives almost fifteen years ago, yet you suggest and enforce your uneducated judgment of it as "non-prog", apparently because of the (in)actions of the collab teams.

Credibility is not a throne you get to sit on indefinitely, free from further review.  Your music was evaluated over a year ago by the eclectic team, voted on and moved to the avant-garde team where it was rejected. What it was that you somehow interpreted as "(inaction) of the collab teams" is a real head scratcher. You had the opportunity with new music to re-submit through the proper channels. Instead you chose the misguided route of posting inappropriately in the primary Prog Music Lounge. I will refrain from laying a qualitative analysis on your motives, but at the very least it demonstrated a complete disregard for the site rules and guidelines, an understanding of which should be the bare minimum of requirements to maintain collaborator status.   

Your actions are found to be wanting. Repeated insults to administrators and site volunteers will not be tolerated. Expect a PM from me.

 

Going back the the original topic of the thread, it seems there was a mistake on the part of the O.P. about his claim about having a star removed.  There is no record of him having more than 3 stars.  No stars were removed.  

Edited by TCat - September 29 2021 at 13:28

^ No I didn't. And I don't see the connection with what has been said before, and definitely not with the OP.

^^    This really makes me laugh. Apparently you are so much out of touch with reality that you can utter this kind of nonsense. I don't think there's that much money circulating here at PA, otherwise this site, database and the forums would be much more up to modern standards. It really seems to me that you should question your own attitude. But I sincerely hope you get banned because your bad-faith is just too shameful...


Edited by suitkees - September 29 2021 at 12:46

suitkees wrote: suitkees wrote: ...but respect is not something to claim, it is something you earn...

Edited by Man Overboard - September 29 2021 at 12:34

suitkees wrote: ...but respect is not something to claim, it is something you earn...