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I prefer Calling All Stations over all of the Genesis albums from 1980 thru' to 1991 and I would gladly swap all eight of my Phil Collins' albums for just one Ray Wilson album. Big smile




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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Peter Gabriel = David Lee Roth.
 
Phil Collins = Sammy Hagar.
 
Ray Wilson = Gary Cherone.

Accurate AF.
I agree, too. Never thought of that before, even tough I'm a big fan of both bands.

Does it mean that Peter Gabriel will come back and make one last album with Genesis (like DLR did with VH)? Tongue
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile


just checked the CD and it says Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks. I don't know what you mean. 

If you take a look at the credits at the end of the Shipwrecked video above, it says Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. Smile


I don't watch videos so...
They used their full names in the past, I don't think it because they want to detach themselves from the album. 

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I think Rutherford and Banks only carried on because Genesis was being perceived as 'The Phil Collins Band' . Ironically carrying on only cemented that idea. Really they had enough money but their egos just made them carry on one album too far.  For me the last proper Genesis album was Abacab. It was a very patchy effort but at least they were actually trying something and not totally stagnating.


true, but the s/t album from 1983 was also a proper Genesis album, a bit patchy as well, but to me a bit better put together than Abacab. 
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I think Rutherford and Banks only carried on because Genesis was being perceived as 'The Phil Collins Band' . Ironically carrying on only cemented that idea. Really they had enough money but their egos just made them carry on one album too far.  For me the last proper Genesis album was Abacab. It was a very patchy effort but at least they were actually trying something and not totally stagnating.
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There's like 5 or 6 good songs in this album, which actually would be a nice 30~40 shorter one without all the fillers: Congo, Alien Afternoon, The Dividing Line, There must be some other way and One Man's Fool. 

The same goes for We Can't Dance album, IMO. My main criticism for CAS is how the drums are really devoid of life in most songs, with few exceptions such as The Dividing Line. Some of the b-sides of this album are interesting too.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I love From Genesis to Revelation! That was my favourite Genesis album at one time, mainly for the Poptastic orchestral production by Jonathan King. Big smile

My answer was to you, but Brandan posted first. 
I'm talking about WCD, you Ermmabout FGTR... 
...And my answer was to Necrotica, but you posted first. Tongue

but my post was for you, a reaction to something you said. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I love From Genesis to Revelation! That was my favourite Genesis album at one time, mainly for the Poptastic orchestral production by Jonathan King. Big smile

My answer was to you, but Brandan posted first. 
I'm talking about WCD, you Ermmabout FGTR... 
...And my answer was to Necrotica, but you posted first. Tongue
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If I had this album as a setlist to perform on stage, I think I would be sniffing my armpits and putting on five more pairs of pants.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I love From Genesis to Revelation! That was my favourite Genesis album at one time, mainly for the Poptastic orchestral production by Jonathan King. Big smile

My answer was to you, but Brandan posted first. 
I'm talking about WCD, you Ermmabout FGTR... 


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^ I love From Genesis to Revelation! That was my favourite Genesis album at one time, mainly for the Poptastic orchestral production by Jonathan King. Big smile
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^ Dreaming While you Sleep and Driving the Last Spike are both excellent. Also a few of the op songs on the album are pretty good to - No Son of Mine, Tell Me Why, Hold on My Heart. 

Not a bad album. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Calling All Stations isn't even my least favorite Genesis album LOL

I'm guessing We Can't Dance is your least favourite Genesis album, just as it is for me, where the album is only partially saved by the final 10-minute song, Fading Lights...


Nope! For me, it's From Genesis to Revelation. Sure, it has Peter on vocals, but to me that doesn't stop it from being a really half-baked album with way too much input from Jonathan King. Plus, it's aged horribly (though I suppose one could say the same about Stations as well...) 
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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Calling All Stations isn't even my least favorite Genesis album LOL

I'm guessing We Can't Dance is your least favourite Genesis album, just as it is for me, where the album is only partially saved by the final 10-minute song, Fading Lights...
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Calling All Stations isn't even my least favorite Genesis album LOL
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

There's something comical about progarchives starting a thread on the worst, most bottom of the barrel, no semblance of prog, Genesis album rather than discussing some new and exciting prog releases. Anyways, anyone here check out the new Ocean Collective album? Pretty good stuff.

While I agree to what you say here, I still see no harm in us discussing Calling All Stations. 


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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

There's something comical about progarchives starting a thread on the worst, most bottom of the barrel, no semblance of prog, Genesis album rather than discussing some new and exciting prog releases. Anyways, anyone here check out the new Ocean Collective album? Pretty good stuff.

I'm hearing Calling All Stations in a whole new light after going out and buying the CD album for a grand total of £1 from a charity shop recently. Now, it sounds like a reasonably good
 3-star album instead of a poor 2-star album, If That's What You Need to hear. Smile





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Originally posted by SquonkHunter SquonkHunter wrote:

I agree with the consensus here that it was a HUGE mistake releasing CAS as a Genesis album. By doing that, expectations were set way too high for what otherwise is not a bad album. Not great, but not bad. Had there been a second album with Ray Wilson FULLY involved in the writing and arranging of the songs from the beginning they might have stood a chance. As it is now though, we can only speculate on what might have been. Another missed chance.
You're right! Calling All Stations sounds much better if I don't think of it as a Genesis album. Smile
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I agree with the consensus here that it was a HUGE mistake releasing CAS as a Genesis album. By doing that, expectations were set way too high for what otherwise is not a bad album. Not great, but not bad. Had there been a second album with Ray Wilson FULLY involved in the writing and arranging of the songs from the beginning they might have stood a chance. As it is now though, we can only speculate on what might have been. Another missed chance.
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