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    Posted: April 18 2020 at 11:43
I don't think of the band Mastermind. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Heh, I actually like the debut but then again I like the first echolyn album too. I'll admit they were improved a bit later but I think the first one told the world what they were all about. I think they shed the ELP comparisons a bit more later on though while the first one very much has a very obvious ELP influence. 
 

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Heh, I actually like the debut but then again I like the first echolyn album too. I'll admit they improved a bit later but I think the first one told the world what they were all about. I think they shed the ELP comparisons a bit more later on though while the first one very much has a very obvious ELP influence. 
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Heh, I actually like the debut but then again I like the first echolyn album too. I'll admit they were improved a bit later but I think the first one told the world what they were all about. I think they shed the ELP comparisons a bit more later on though while the first one very much has a very obvious ELP influence. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've got the debut. It's 'okay' , shades of ELP and Rush but there is tons of stuff that is better from the 90's and on. If you want something 'ELP inspired' then please check out Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions or Veni Vidi Vici. 
 

Richard, check out III: Tragic Symphony and Excelsior! The latter is entirely instrumental and sounds nothing like the debut.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've got the debut. It's 'okay' , shades of ELP and Rush but there is tons of stuff that is better from the 90's and on. If you want something 'ELP inspired' then please check out Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions or Veni Vidi Vici. 

Better than the debut maybe but you haven't heard their later stuff. Check out their next few albums. I agree that PLP were very good too. 
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I've got the debut. It's 'okay' , shades of ELP and Rush but there is tons of stuff that is better from the 90's and on. If you want something 'ELP inspired' then please check out Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions or Veni Vidi Vici. 
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I think maybe one of the biggest differences between those who know them(regardless of whether they actually like them or not)and those who don't is whether they were into the underground prog scene in the 90's(whether that be through catalogs or the old rec. music. prog newsgroup etc). Obviously some on here were into prog back then(besides just me. Lol.). 
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I bought their debut when it came out. It has some great tracks on it which
I still remember very well.
 
I can remember some of their other albums covers and I'm sure I bought some
of them too, I just can't remember which ones...
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^ I'll take it. Smile Geez, that's better than most on here. They are from the 90's. Does that mean you guys don't know Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and the Smashing Pumpkins either! :P And they aren't even prog! 

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Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

I do have one of their albums on CD.
I can't remember its name, but it has a brilliant cover version of The Endless Enigma on it (as a bonus track)

That would be the "Angels of Apocalypse" album but the Endless Enigma is not a bonus track on there. It's part of the proper album. 


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I do have one of their albums on CD.
I can't remember its name, but it has a brilliant cover version of The Endless Enigma on it (as a bonus track)
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Never heard of them...until now!

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Originally posted by CristauxFeur CristauxFeur wrote:

You should add ''I HATE modern prog"

The 1990's is hardly modern these days though.Wink 
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I started this thread because in my opinion Mastermind are severely under rated on here. It actually has inspired me to start similar polls so stay tuned. I won't be offended if zero people have heard of Nightwinds or Crucible. :P

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I only know about mastermind because of my long involvement with Prog Archives, where I have discovered and heard about a huge many bands and artists (probably heard a track or two). In the 90s I was in my twenties, but wasn't really into Prog then (I had been when younger). I was more into classical, jazz, folk, world music, and types of electronic music than rock, progressive or otherwise, back then. It wasn't until the 2000s that I deeply explored the Progressive Rock umbrella. I now recall having heard music off Tragic Symphony.



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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Lisa Bouchelle pretty much hit the big time(well, compared to most anyway and especially for someone who once played in a prog band). She's not just country though she is pretty diverse(read the wikipedia page where they mention her other styles). Also, she hosts a show on tv called "rock star kitchen" and has done a lot of other stuff including a pretty solid career in the music business over all. I wonder if she has stayed in contact with the Berends brothers. Who knows. How did they get her to sing on that album? Well, she sang on one of the Magna Carta compilations so at one point was obviously involved with prog to some degree. It was ultimately probably just one chapter in her musical evolution. I won't go so far as to say she saw it as starting on the bottom plus she probably did other stuff before that but maybe it wasn't the best fit for her in the long run? Who can say. That is a good album though and I think they did a good job on the ELP cover tune. I was just playing that a couple of months ago or so in my car actually. I agree about them outdoing Dream Theater. Some of the Mastermind material would blow falling into infinity(which isn't that good to begin with)out of the water not to mention most of DT's later stuff. The biggest tragedy of Mastermind is that they haven't sustained their popularity over the years(of course a band breaking up doesn't help)and have been swept under the prog carpet by time and been buried by tons of other bands some of which have come and gone themselves. 

I wonder how old most of these people are who said they never heard of them though. Were they in diapers in the 90's(grade school maybe). I get it though. The prog scene was still rather tenuous at that point and it was still mostly older fans rediscovering prog who happened to discover some newer stuff along the way. I could have asked about After Crying, Solaris, Isildur's Bane and Par Lindh Project and received very similar responses(ie most not knowing who they are)despite all being really great bands. I guess the whole point of prog is discovering new stuff(new to you and not necessarily brand new)and so we all know that if something isn't super well known it only means just that and does not mean the music is not worth hearing. 

Here's Lisa's wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Bouchelle
 

That really glosses over Angels of the Apocalypse (not even referred to by name). Wow. 

I'll have to check out Rock Star Kitchen. I enjoy Live from Daryl's House, so more of that is always good.
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