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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7860 |
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Absolute madness. I'd never buy it. Lol |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7860 |
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Yeah Dave. I agree. Trouble with achieving that 'neutral thing' is that so many amps and especially DACS really colour the overall sound canvas artificially. To achieve reasonable neutral sounding headphones you gotta do it from the ground up, but it will never be perfect. You get it close like my current home headphone rig is pretty close but I think no headphone really is entirely neutral, so I'd agree with you on that however you can get it petty dang close. :) 🎃 |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Problem with the whole 'neutral' thing is that there aren't that many headphones that are neutral. Even the ones that claim to be professional studio monitors are often boosted.
They're not boosted in the bass region like so many consumer headphones are - no they're boosted in the mids and treble so as everything turns brighter ie it is easier to pick up mistakes in one's mix. Does this translate into pleasure? Entirely up to your own ears. I've heard supposedly flat cans that sounded woefully boring and I've heard ones that took my breath away. Both were professional studio monitors. Another thing is, they're still discussing what exactly flat and/or neutral sounds like in a headphone. It is not the same thing as speakers. |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Hi,
I sooooooo agree with this. In the old days, the main reason why the music sounded so good on the new FM dials of the late 60's and early 70's (BEFORE it went corporate 5 years later!), was exactly that ... the music was adjusted on the station side, and the split FM signal helped make a lot of the music deeper, heavier and better than it really was. I have tapes of several shows from as far back as 1974, and some of the music on LP's and CD's STILL does not sound half as good, or as strong ... and a pair of headphones like that, might not have all the shine and the blahandblah, but you will KNOW what you have ... and if something gets done to it later, you already have the "source" and know your OWN music better! So, in terms of enhancing your experience of listening, that is another story ... but by the time you hear 6 versions of Beethoven's 9th, I think you will find that the headphones are not helping the music in most examples, since each maestro tends to emphasize different elements and details.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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![]() Wow that was weird. Gotta love that packaging! 'I have no name...' ![]() He doesn't really mention the sound though. Just the ol head bobbing going down. |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7860 |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Jzrk ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 21 2014 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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Thanks all for the info seems like it’s never easy to pick one!
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AEProgman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2012 Location: Toadstool Status: Offline Points: 1789 |
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Yes, the last pet discussion was quite informative in the Cans thread... :)
Regarding the thread title, I can vouch for the Audio Technica ATH-M40X, great neutral sounding closed back headphones, that are also easy to drive. They fold up for portability, but are still a over ear set of cans. I got them for $99 a few years ago, I believe they are cheaper now. Some great on ear portable cans are the Sennheiser PX-100ii. I amazingly got them for $42 in 2016, now they are $70. They are open back. Regarding the Koss Porta Pro, I have the little brother clip on style ear phones, Koss KSC75 which I have forgotten about until this thread. They are sort of ugly as ear clip ons, but are under $20! I have read where some users have removed the ear clips and put them on the Porta Pro head band and rave about it! I will try and post a photo of them below but may give up if captcha gives me too much grief. ![]() |
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Davesax1965 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2839 |
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Believe it or not, I'd go for a pair of studio headphones. Flat response, no treble or bass boost.
That allows you to hear exactly what the producer intended you to hear. However. Personal preference comes into this and headphone manufacturers bias commercial headphones to produce more bass, midrange or treble. So the simple answer is that your personal preference means it's not possible to actually say "These are the best headphones", full stop. |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Oh and be sure to drop by our designated headphone thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=111396
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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They're alright I guess but you can do a lot better for a hundred bucks imo. Marshall headphones are made by the Swedish company called Zound. They make a very very popular headphones named Plattan, which basically is the exact same as the Marshall just in colours. Not a particularly renowned company in terms of sound quality. People buy them for their design methinks. Recs: Koss Porta Pro (open back) Akg Y50 Yamaha hph-150 (open back) Ultrasone hfi-15g (open back and brilliant!) Beyerdynamic dt240 Bigger but still portable: Audio Technica ath-m40x Beyerdynamic dtx-910 (open back) Koss Dj100 Ultrasone Dj1 Edited by Guldbamsen - December 21 2017 at 17:12 |
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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These have been my favorite $100 headphones for a long, long time:
https://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-SON-MDR7506-LIST#FeaturedReview
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20650 |
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I think there are several decent ones at that price and my Shure shr 440 pair are well under $100 and I love them.
https://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH440-Professional-Studio-Headphones/dp/B002DP1FTU Edited by dr wu23 - December 20 2017 at 21:32 |
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Jzrk ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 21 2014 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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I am still n the market for some too.
I am looking for on ear and something smallish to use at the gym and or outside walking. I am not a fan of earbuds. I did d have a pair of Klipsch that were under $100 and really like them. The model is discontinued but still on Amazon . My issue was the design was easy to break. But the sound was top notch and good bass. The newer ones are redesigned and closer to $200 I am considering the Marshall headphones as they seem to get good ratings and have also made some changes since the first generation.Anybody here have the new ones? |
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Muso Goodshot ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: December 10 2017 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Ive been using AKG K99's for a couple of years now, and no complaints they sound great.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Alwas been happy with Sennheiser, ever since the 80's, and haven't noticed that much difference between their cheaper and more pricey sets. I bought my last set about ten years ago. Still working perfectly. I think they cost around £70.
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AEProgman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2012 Location: Toadstool Status: Offline Points: 1789 |
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I will also go against the grain here with Audio-Technica ATH-M40X studio headphones. I have a pair and am very pleased with them. They are right at $99 on Amazon (link below). They are very neutral in sound, which means the way it was recorded is the way you will hear it, you can always tweak your equalizer if you want more bass or more treble, etc..
You may want to visit music/guitar stores and ask to try some headphones (which I did), most likely they will have Senns, AKG, and Audio-Technica and will let you test drive them. https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1502801193&sr=8-3&keywords=audio+technica+ath-m40x |
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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I'm going to go across the grain here, Sennheiser are a fine brand, and while I don't know this particular model I've always found
Sennheiser's a little light in the low end and a little thin overall. For my money I'd check out the AKG240 Studio cans. A much warmer and fuller sound. I've used them for 30 years in live and studio environments and have been very pleased.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18879 |
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Unfortunately I can't wear headphones because they affect my tinnitus.
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Adding to the chorus - I don't know the HD588 specifically, but I've never gone wrong buying Sennheiser.
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