The Beatles' Influence on Prog?

^Agreed. I can appreciate the Beatles on an artistic level, but I don't feel the need to actually listen to any of their music. Like most people, I've moved on.

Generally, the Beatles suck. There, I said it.   Now, I have some of their albums - yes, they are good. But, I'd love to see a parallel world where these dudes never existed, and how music evolved without their ideals.

Edited by Tom Ozric - August 04 2017 at 04:23

Agree 100%. It annoys me when people dis the Beatles, forgetting that 90% of what they listen to now has some form of influence from the group, be it harmonies to production techniques. However, I can understand that they are not everyone's cuppa, especially those that worship virtuoso musicians. 

Edited by SteveG - July 20 2017 at 04:02

I would say it's pretty significant. They certainly laid the foundation for what was to come & had an early influence on a lot of prog artists. I have head Jon Anderson & Phil Collins among others talk about The Beatles influence in them as young musicians.

SteveG wrote: ExittheLemming wrote: SteveG wrote: Dope in the modern vernacular does mean cool such as "Those new Ferraris are dope!" But I've always found that those that couldn't handle weed usually had under lying psychological problems and found it was best for them to stay away from it and to just let them rant about it's evils. That same modern vernacular that has 'bad' and 'totally sick' meaning 'good' will never stand up to even the flimsiest scrutiny it seems. I've certainly never enjoyed smoking pot but don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to do unless it turns the user into a stupefied clueless imbecile, and sometimes you don't even need an external agent for that to occur. We seem to have veered off topic however, as though some of us are having difficulty concentrating? Fortunately, modern slang does not hang around too long. I feel that discussing weed along with the worlds most famous psychedelic album seems related as one would not have existed without the other.

Aye, there's the rub. Unlike Bill Hicks and other considerably less cherished hippies, I don't hold that drugs enhance or even facilitate the creative process. Despite its 'trippy' production facade (and let's remember Lennon didn't even consider it a 'concept' album), Sgt Pepper obeys the same time honoured aesthetic criteria that has held sway for every conceivable strand of song based popular music before or since i.e. if the old grey doorman can whistle the tune, it's gonna be popular. Many will of course point towards Within You Without You or the subsequent experimentation of something like Revolution No 9  from the White Album as evidence of mind altering substances opening hitherto closed doors, but wise up, you're now in the realm of the dilettante avant-garde a.k.a. theatre ponces pretending they can't read.

ExittheLemming wrote: SteveG wrote: Dope in the modern vernacular does mean cool such as "Those new Ferraris are dope!" But I've always found that those that couldn't handle weed usually had under lying psychological problems and found it was best for them to stay away from it and to just let them rant about it's evils. That same modern vernacular that has 'bad' and 'totally sick' meaning 'good' will never stand up to even the flimsiest scrutiny it seems. I've certainly never enjoyed smoking pot but don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to do unless it turns the user into a stupefied clueless imbecile, and sometimes you don't even need an external agent for that to occur. We seem to have veered off topic however, as though some of us are having difficulty concentrating?

Fortunately, modern slang does not hang around too long. I feel that discussing weed along with the worlds most famous psychedelic album seems related as one would not have existed without the other.

SteveG wrote: Dope in the modern vernacular does mean cool such as "Those new Ferraris are dope!" But I've always found that those that couldn't handle weed usually had under lying psychological problems and found it was best for them to stay away from it and to just let them rant about it's evils.

That same modern vernacular that has 'bad' and 'totally sick' meaning 'good' will never stand up to even the flimsiest scrutiny it seems. I've certainly never enjoyed smoking pot but don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to do unless it turns the user into a stupefied clueless imbecile, and sometimes you don't even need an external agent for that to occur. We seem to have veered off topic however, as though some of us are having difficulty concentrating?

Trolling here
Dope is : a) a brand of adhesive
               b) nick-name for marijuana
               c) colloquially, a stupid person
I've never known it to mean something that's 'cool'

Yes, The Beatles influenced Prog. Next question, please.

Progressive pop came about circa 1965. Including Pet Sounds, Rubber Soul, et al.