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Man With Hat 
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 Topic: Negativland(Neu!) vs Krautrock(Faust)
Posted: June 15 2016 at 13:56 |
All Hail Faust!
all Hail Faust!
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Rednight
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Posted: June 15 2016 at 11:42 |
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Faust! Just don't like Neu.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 17:05 |
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This is a tough poll. I adore both of these tunes. Though seeing as most folks are going with NEU! (which rather surprises me tbh) I'll give Faust some love.
I'm not sure most youngins today understand just how innovative Faust were in their heyday (hell they're still right there on the cusp of musical mayhem/invention). People are so accustomed to hearing the grainy abrasive sound of Krautrock - having run into it in a plethora of different genres (post punk, electronic, pop, hip hop and a multitude of metal styles to name but a few), yet at the same time forgetting where it all started. There was nothing out there that sounded even remotely close to Krautrock, when IV first hit the street back in september 1973. Nothing. The legacy of that track alone can be witnessed in today's underground scenes in every corner of the world. That sludgy buzzing larval-like sound.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 16:21 |
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I'm going with NEU! but both are great.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Barbu
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 13:11 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 10:37 |
Oh my...two tracks that give me a headache.....let me take some pills and get back to this one.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
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zravkapt
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 07:41 |
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Hmmm. I guess overall "Negativland" although I like both. It always sounded to me (hearing it mostly on earbuds/headphones) like they cut and pasted a jam that gradually got faster and harder; they didn't actually change the tempo as they were playing it.
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CPicard
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 05:20 |
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From a musical point of view, I prefer "Negativland" over "Krautrock": if the second one has a "catchy" starting, I feel it falls quickly into an unidimensional approach and the trance effect one could expect from the formula tried by the band is slow to come.
On the other side, the heavy riff and heavy rhythms of "Negativland" invoke a more direct approach of the Rock'n'Roll formula (Black Sabbath discovering dub music?), but manages to get out of it by creating a true effect of trance, thanks to this simple, obstinated and unrepentant rhythm.
Yet, the Neu! duo is quick to change the pace of thier tune, going faster, adding anguishind distorted guitars sounding like someone having a panic attack in the middle of a crowded street, the drums now run like the heartbeat of a nervous breakdown!
You can't get bored with this track...
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Manuel
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Posted: June 14 2016 at 03:59 |
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Faust for me, for very personal reasons.
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LearsFool
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Posted: June 13 2016 at 23:42 |
"Negativland". The opening sound collage, the killer bass riff, the tempo changes, the wailing guitar...
... and while Faust could do no wrong, there's simply music before Neu! and music after Neu!.
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windycrawford
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Posted: June 13 2016 at 22:58 |
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So here come two masterpieces of kosmische music, 2 noisy propellers from Neu!'s 1st and Faust's 4th albums respectively. Which one do you like best?
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Negativland(Neu!) vs Krautrock(Faust)
