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Topic: TV...reality shows? Posted: October 08 2005 at 07:47 |
Borealis wrote:
Peter wrote:
Sorry: I tend to despise them -- they appeal to the lowest common denominator, to pull in viewers at a bargain price.
No, give me some real writing and acting any day -- not a bunch of preening silicone & steroid-pumped wannabes eating disgusting things while clad in bikinis and speedos, and assassinating each other's (near total lack of) characters in the shameless, self-absorbed pursuit of a quick, easy, unearned buck.
The McDonalds of TV-- the epitome of a sick, soulless, valueless, youth and money obsessed, short-attention-spanned, instant-gratification-demanding culture in rapid decline. The sort of dreck that religious fundamentalists can justifiably point to as "evil."
The worst are the ones where you get to watch "ordinary" (but young and attractive) people of dissimilar backgrounds live together day by day -- a voyueristic look at others' lives, for pathetic folks who can't seem to get one of their own.
Turn the f**king TV off, and take a walk outside. Really communicate with the people around you. Try to make yourself, and the world, a little better -- THAT'S reality.
Just plain DUMB.
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I really liked this post. Simply what TV really is, and the way I see it (although I might have told it that well )
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Definitely agreed - I always think that reality shows are an exercise in being as little like real life as possible... not to mention dire.
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Posted: October 07 2005 at 22:36 |
Peter wrote:
Sorry: I tend to despise them -- they appeal to the lowest common denominator, to pull in viewers at a bargain price.
No, give me some real writing and acting any day -- not a bunch of preening silicone & steroid-pumped wannabes eating disgusting things while clad in bikinis and speedos, and assassinating each other's (near total lack of) characters in the shameless, self-absorbed pursuit of a quick, easy, unearned buck.
The McDonalds of TV-- the epitome of a sick, soulless, valueless, youth and money obsessed, short-attention-spanned, instant-gratification-demanding culture in rapid decline. The sort of dreck that religious fundamentalists can justifiably point to as "evil."
The worst are the ones where you get to watch "ordinary" (but young and attractive) people of dissimilar backgrounds live together day by day -- a voyueristic look at others' lives, for pathetic folks who can't seem to get one of their own.
Turn the f**king TV off, and take a walk outside. Really communicate with the people around you. Try to make yourself, and the world, a little better -- THAT'S reality.
Just plain DUMB.
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I really liked this post. Simply what TV really is, and the way I see it (although I might have told it that well )
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Posted: October 07 2005 at 21:40 |
Wasn't there something in Revelations about "the great Reality TV plague"?
No, I must be imagining things again!
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 18:56 |
Doctor Who is my favorite reality TV show of course.
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 16:10 |
There is ultimately no such thing as "reality" TV, since the vast majority of these shows have been shown to be almost as "scripted" as regular programmed TV. Like the wizard in Oz, it is basically a case of "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." They are as phony as a nine-dollar bill.
As Peter says, these shows appeal to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the cult of personality/celebrity, stab-the-other-person-in-the-back competitiveness, the viewer vicariously living through other people's lives and actions, or blatant revenge fantasies. It is sick, and only makes society sicker.
As Peter says, turn the TV off and go experience life for yourself. Believe me, it's much more satisfying and fun.
Peace.
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:43 |
^ Thus spake the (unyoung and unlovely) curmudgeon....
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 12:07 |
Sorry: I tend to despise them -- they appeal to the lowest common denominator, to pull in viewers at a bargain price.
No, give me some real writing and acting any day -- not a bunch of preening silicone & steroid-pumped wannabes
eating disgusting things while clad in bikinis and speedos, and
assassinating each other's (near total lack of) characters in the
shameless, self-absorbed pursuit of a quick, easy, unearned buck.
The McDonalds of TV-- the epitome of a sick, soulless, valueless, youth
and money obsessed, short-attention-spanned,
instant-gratification-demanding culture in rapid decline. The sort of
dreck that religious fundamentalists can justifiably point to as "evil."
The worst are the ones where you get to watch "ordinary" (but young and
attractive) people of dissimilar backgrounds live together day by day
-- a voyueristic look at others' lives, for pathetic folks who can't
seem to get one of their own.
Turn the f**king TV off, and take a walk outside. Really communicate
with the people around you. Try to make yourself, and the world, a
little better -- THAT'S reality.
Just plain DUMB.
Edited by Peter
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: August 21 2005 at 23:38 |
That's telling it like it is, barbs!
and I was going to say I liked the one about the fat obnoxious fiance ...
but seriously enough already ... the dumbing down is too much ... 5 minutes of listening to Ashlee Simpson woffle on can drive a person nutty ... and I still can't believe the I Want A Famous Face one where kids (people in their late teens) get plastic surgery to look like their pop idols ... disgusting ...
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Posted: August 21 2005 at 05:17 |
The contract that is signed for Big Brother TV show by anyone who
appears on it, basically enslaves the person to the network production
company they have signed with. Not only that but when they leave the
show, they are contracted for the rest of their lives to the same
agent. Effectively, the producers can do whatever they want with them
(within the law) and there is no recourse. People are so desperate to
get on TV and be 'famous', they sign. The power of television.
If you have not already watched it and wish to gain a better understanding of corporate power, watch the documentary, The Corporation
- The one with the man in a suit with briefcase and a halo and devils
tail (Canadian production). It is an excellent expose of who the real
powers that be are in the world and how they got it in the first place.
If you want to shape the mindset of a generation, just buy a TV station
and make it the most popular in the land. They swing political agendas.
There is no independant regulatory body to tell TV stations what they
can or cannot put on. They are supposed to be able to regulate
themselves. Essentially, this is the same as telling you that you can
set your own speed limit and how much you can drink when you drive.
Even if you have an accident, if you have enough money you can tie the
complainant up for that many years, they will go broke before they ever
see the end of the case. This is what Merck intends to do with the
Vioxx suit. They have a 1 billion dollar warchest to fight the
individuals that have been poisoned by their product.
Free press and independent journalism/editorial, stylish entertainment
and production values, valid incisive comedy, educational documentary
programs.
TV in its current form, 90% of the time.
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 21:51 |
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 20:33 |
Reality tv shows a distinct lack of originality in tv today......the more pish we get the less value we get...if i want to to see reality i'll look outside my window...........go and get a life people.
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 02:09 |
Saved by the Bell and the College Years were so .
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 02:07 |
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 02:06 |
saved by the bell: hawaii.
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 02:05 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
I could go on and on about how cool the first one was... but what's good on TV these days? |
Absolutly nothing
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 02:02 |
I could go on and on about how cool the first one was... but what's good on TV these days?
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 01:58 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Big Brother isn't that bad. Esp. when there is nothing on in the summer.
The Amazing Race is also pretty good.
But, my favorite they took off a few years ago. THE MOLE. Excellent TV right there. One of the best shows of Television. I miss that show. Ahh well...
Anyway, i don't get to watch too much TV anymore, being im gluded to my comp. all day
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I was also very interested in The Mole, it was terrific.
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WOOT!! Support...they need to bring it back now
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I think they did briefly, but it got cancelled again.
Now another one of my favorite TV shows (although it only aired twice) was Clerks: the Cartoon. Luckily, View Askew released it on DVD.
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It was a celeb version i think. And it wasn't as good, esp. because they got rid of Anderson Cooper.
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Ah, yes it was, and it was in Hawaii if I'm not mistaken... and that one was a stinker compared to the first one...
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Yes...it had it's moments...but nothing like that first season
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 01:57 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Big Brother isn't that bad. Esp. when there is nothing on in the summer.
The Amazing Race is also pretty good.
But, my favorite they took off a few years ago. THE MOLE. Excellent TV right there. One of the best shows of Television. I miss that show. Ahh well...
Anyway, i don't get to watch too much TV anymore, being im gluded to my comp. all day
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I was also very interested in The Mole, it was terrific.
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WOOT!! Support...they need to bring it back now
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I think they did briefly, but it got cancelled again.
Now another one of my favorite TV shows (although it only aired twice) was Clerks: the Cartoon. Luckily, View Askew released it on DVD.
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It was a celeb version i think. And it wasn't as good, esp. because they got rid of Anderson Cooper.
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Ah, yes it was, and it was in Hawaii if I'm not mistaken... and that one was a stinker compared to the first one...
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 01:52 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Big Brother isn't that bad. Esp. when there is nothing on in the summer.
The Amazing Race is also pretty good.
But, my favorite they took off a few years ago. THE MOLE. Excellent TV right there. One of the best shows of Television. I miss that show. Ahh well...
Anyway, i don't get to watch too much TV anymore, being im gluded to my comp. all day
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I was also very interested in The Mole, it was terrific.
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WOOT!! Support...they need to bring it back now
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I think they did briefly, but it got cancelled again.
Now another one of my favorite TV shows (although it only aired twice) was Clerks: the Cartoon. Luckily, View Askew released it on DVD.
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It was a celeb version i think. And it wasn't as good, esp. because they got rid of Anderson Cooper.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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