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uduwudu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
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I thought his book was droll, self deprecating and informative. Not a gossip volume but for anyone interested in the practicalities of music an essential read.
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socrates17 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 12 2014 Location: NJ, USA Status: Offline Points: 436 |
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Thanks, Adam. I hadn't heard about it so I just ordered it, thanks to you, from Amazon. Next up I'm reading Different Every Time. I report on and review my books (60% SF/F/H, 20% Crime fiction, 20% various non-fiction) on Goodreads, btw, under my real name: Bill Reynolds, if anyone is curious.
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resurrection ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 08 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 254 |
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Does Bill mention Harry Hughes (Clouds) in his book? He should do - Harry gave him lessons, and included a contribution by him in his book "UK Rock Drumming" by Premier Drums. Hughes also did the same for Carl Palmer - I don't know if Carl has credited him either. Harry Hughes was revered by his peers as THE drummer. As stated by Billboard Magazine, Hughes was "surely the most technically-brilliant drummer of the early Rock era".
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Not the issue ... there are 4 of them on! (2 for fun and play and 2 for music playing and such!). I think that the book has more "levels" in it, than I saw at first, and it might have confused me some, and I think reading it again, might give me a better idea. I have the same issue with Marianne Faithfull's book. It is a very nice and very honest book, with a little too much Ajax for me in it, and that is not to say that she could easily discuss the sex and drugs in it a bit more, but she might have been way too ripped to even know there was that much sex around, for example. I do not think that a salacious book is required, but in many ways, it would have represented the whole scene and her involvement in it a lot better. And she does not discuss the theater and later films a whole lot. Bill does the same thing, kinda trying to say something about Red/Starless, but in essence ... saying nothing ... which is a bit strange.
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4812 |
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Turn your computer on.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Hi,
I'm planning on reading this book again ... I really want to do a review, just have no idea how to start it, or end it ... soooooo Bruford'ian, it ain't funny!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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fxdregs ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2007 Location: Vancouver Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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I am on my 5th reading of this informative and entertaining book and recommend it very highly.
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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Hm, I always give the counter example of "Squonk" and "Ripples" when the lyrics of Genesis after Gabriel are criticized. Both are highly sophisticated lyrics.
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deafmoon ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 462 |
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I bought this book when it first came out. But truth be told, could not get past a few chapters. I got into Bruford with Yes back in 1972 and followed his every move in and out of bands all along the way til he retired. So for me the book was just a regurgitation of what I already knew. I do owe it a comeback around though to try to get to some nuggets I never read or heard about along the way.
A more interesting book for me would be Phil Collins - The Drummer Autobiography; only because there is so much on his vocals out there that I stopped following Phil over 30 years ago. Just too damned boring as a singer and never had the lyrical finesse of Peter Gabriel for me. |
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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I went to 'an evening with Bill Bruford' event at a local jazz club when this book first came out. I met him when he signed my copy. Very nice chap.
It's a very interesting read. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Hi,
A couple of months later, I'm STILL not feeling as bad about this book, as I originally thought. My concern was that I had conflicting views within myself to be able to write a decent review ... and these days, I'm looking at it, and find that somethings have not changed ... or improved. Reminds me of a short video that he had about drumming, and he was demonstrating a few things on his drum stix and ... he said ... this is the same thing, just done slightly different ... and sometimes, I think that some of his work, was the same thing, but, that's like saying that no one else's is the same thing ... it usually is, specially a drummer! There are not, in my book, that many completely original drummers that do it completely different than anyone else, and no one has the courage to even try what they do. Pierre Moerlin was one, Keith Moon another, Mani Neumeier another ... people that are so different and independent that it makes the music stand out ... but I am not sure that Bill Bruford was any more important than the rest of the YES membership at his time.
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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He's so self-conscious and so intelligent that it makes him insecure. I feel sorry for him in that respect.
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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Now I want this book...
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Excellent book, but the 2nd half becomes very sad to me as he describes losing his passion...
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4812 |
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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I love the book. I have it a few years now, and I already read it three times.
A book you read over and over again. Wonderful intelligent observations, and often he's painfully honest.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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NutterAlert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2005 Location: In transition Status: Offline Points: 2808 |
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personally I did not enjoy this book, and I don't like the way he is so dismissive of his time with Gong and the ethos of that group...Bruford is a bit too much up his own derrier for my liking...
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4812 |
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I sampled three or four pages of the thing on some book web site, and Bruford's writing appeared to suffer from being a tad over-flippant for its subject matter. I mean just tell the story already (I do want to read it in its entirety though).
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Hi,
This is next for me, btw ... it's on the radar.
Finshed Wyatt's, Cousins, Zappa's and working on "Comfortably Numb" on PF ... but Bruford is next (ED. Later) Got sidetracked by Luis Bunuel's book!
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