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Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:00

Add them to a Middle-Eastern inspired Metal fan page.

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 08:05

Listen to "Old School Hollywood" and tell me it's not Prog.

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 04:35

cobb wrote:

Sorry Mike- I was just trying to point out that their songs (I was gonna say compositions, but they are not) are not that complicated, even extremely simplistic

I know ... and you're even right. I just think that complexity is not a must for something to be considered prog. But it certainly helps.

BTW: I'm not for including SOAD - read my first post in this thread:

I haven't heard Mesmerize yet ... but their previous albums aren't prog. They're innovative, and I like them very much, but I think that they lack the ambition as musicians to create outstanding music. They're more interested in getting their message across and having fun on stage than in the music as a work of art. At least that's the consensus of several interviews that I read recently.

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 04:31

Sorry Mike- I was just trying to point out that their songs (I was gonna say compositions, but they are not) are not that complicated, even extremely simplistic

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 04:02

What does that have to do with prog/non-prog? I could play most of Pink Floyd's music if I wanted to, that doesn't make them non-prog.

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 03:52

So you would have trouble working out/playing any of the licks they have written Mike?

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 03:46

cobb wrote:

Have you guys heard their latest offering? Prog? They aren't even accomplished musicians!

Yes they are. But that's not even a criteria for prog (although I think that it should be).

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 02:29

Have you guys heard their latest offering? Prog? They aren't even accomplished musicians!

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Posted: August 21 2005 at 01:36

I'd say System are very much progressive. Progressive does not mean crazy
time signatures, long songs, and random solos. Progressive means, simply,
progressive, which SoaD are without a doubt.

Mezmerize is easily a prog album.

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:36

robertplantowns wrote:

bela fleck and the flecktones are bluegrass, funk, jazz instrumental and have nothing to do with prog rock whatsoever even though victor wooten is a progressive bassist and fleck a progressive banjo player. they could be considered progressive bluegrass but not progressive rock.

I don't think System of a Down are very prog although they're a decent band. I think when looking at the popular music being produced now it's easy to label a creative or different band as prog, but remember what it's being contrasted against, utter crap. They're progressive compared to mainstream rock nowadays but that doesn't qualify them as being true progressive rock .

How would you describe Weather Report??

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:34

See......see how dumb I am.....System of A Down.....NOT System of The Down......So sorry guys...like a said I hardly keep close tabs with todays music.....But that I should have known!!!!!!!!...(me being angry with myself)

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:23

System of a Down? Definately not prog...

Every one of their songs follows the same pattern, fast, slow, fast, slow, it's never different. The musicians in System of a Down are far from virtuistic, I don't think there has even been a solo in a single SOAD song. They have no "epic" songs nor completely progressive albums. Just because they feature silly lyrics does not make them comparable to Frank Zappa. I do not see them as prog at all, I see them as grossly overrated popular metal.

And that's my two cents.

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:06

I think that they won't be accepted.

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:03

I Think they'll fit in well enough. i hope they are added

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:55

for one reason or another, they do not strike me as any kind of prog band. and i do agree, Mike: they're not really metal.

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:43

penguindf12 wrote:

I've listened to "Mesmerize" a lot, and it's very close to prog metal. Constant stops and starts, random changes of time signature, and "Question" is in 5/4 time. But then again, the Gorillaz also had a song in 5/4...I'm hoping that Soad will decide on metal or prog metal on their next album...but as of yet, we just need to wait and see...

Not a long wait. Their next album will be released in a few months.

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:31

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:28

Compared to every other mainstream band, they're not too bad. I like the Mr. Bungle influence too, although they don't quite reach that level. However, I'm not in a hurry to buy any of their albums.

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:20

Gloryscene wrote:

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Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:15

They are a fabulous band, but probably not prog rock. They are progressive when compared to most of the mainstream, but even I wouldn't say they belong here for sure. What makes them different is their zany, constantly changing music, which kind of reminds me of a bunch of (musically talented) 10 year olds with ADD who were fed some sugar and set about making music. I mean that in a good way of course. Their songs are short, and they lack much of the spirit of most prog bands, so I would say that they don't belong here.

They are, however, awesome, and Mesmerize is one of the best albums so far this year. Cant wait for Hypnotize to come out....

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