Why isn't Snarky Puppy on Progarchives?

Jazz-rock and Fusion are surely a great thing; it's what I cut my teeth as a muso on after all (Weather Report). They ought not be considered Prog though. Prog can have implicit jazz-vocabulary (such as the free tonality double sax work in Van der Graaf Generator for example) but not explicitly so because then it becomes something else.
A very tangible distinction can be confirmed in chordal voicings chord sequences and melodic invention (either in composition or extemporization), but perhaps the more essential point is that Prog carries with it a story and a genre of story-telling and, of course, so does Jazz. Another way to look at it is that the one genre is not the proto or evolved version of the other in the way that, for instance, some cathedrals can have a mixture of Gothic styles.

There's a danger in widening definitions and thereby diluting them and, ultimately, doing a disservice to both, imho. Sorry if that sounds like over-thinking the issue!

I've heard of these guys but never checked them out before. Very cool stuff, makes me want to here more of them. 

^Cool avatar and a great movie.  And nice relief from Gulbamsen's!.

Either way, SP have mad musical skills - the three guitarists in the band may be some of the best in the biz at the moment.  Is it prog?  Is it pop-rock?  Hip-pop?  Fusion-pop?  Hip-pop-fusion-pop-rock?  Quasi-prog rock hip pop fusion rock?  Just call it groovy music and let the people on the site know about it so that they may open a door that otherwise would've remained closed.  That's the most powerful tool the PA site offers - a way to introduce listeners to good music and a way to let listeners discuss it.  I love PA but I hate getting bogged down in labels (the scourge wrought by the commerce of the biz).

I guess this is why the "General Music" forum exists - to recommend music that people coming on PA might also like - I enjoyed that video from Snarky Puppy (what a name!) and it would not stop me enjoying it if they are not on PA. Based on this only sample, I can see why they are not included in PA.

Guldbamsen wrote: I see what you mean and I happen to agree with most of what you say, but we need a Progressive Music Archives in order to embrace this new line of thinking and it would ultimately lead to a, granted specialised, version of RYM. It would be much easier just making a new web site for that, and that way the people who visit here, and have done so ever since the start of PA, can continue to discuss Prog Rock in it's archaic meaning (although slightly stretched at some points imo).  I didn't make the rules, I just uphold the notion of what PA was and continues to be: a Prog Rock website. I'll admit, it would be a helluva lot more interesting being an admin in the aforementioned scenario, because there is so much experimental music I listen to that isn't listed on PA.....yet I am a custodian of a web site with remarkably big traditions considering it's short life span, and unless I am completely blind as to what occupies most visiting members, then this new focus does not reflect their interests. Even if I agreed with the fact that we are NOT reflecting the true bands embodying the progressive spirit, there are still the hard core prog heads out there, which about 90% of our member base consists of, that you have to talk into completely overhauling the site.

A great post that sums up my thoughts too.

I see what you mean and I happen to agree with most of what you say, but we need a Progressive Music Archives in order to embrace this new line of thinking and it would ultimately lead to a, granted specialised, version of RYM. It would be much easier just making a new web site for that, and that way the people who visit here, and have done so ever since the start of PA, can continue to discuss Prog Rock in it's archaic meaning (although slightly stretched at some points imo). 

Like I said, i ordered the new one and will hopefully be better equipped to partake in this discussion regarding the musical side of things. 

Fine, but this just reinforces a theme of resistance to anything that would be even a slightly left-field addition.  Then again, given the amount of whining that takes place for months (even years in the case of Metallica) post such an addition, I don't blame the collabs either.   But it all adds up to a pattern where only more of the same can ever get added and that's not a healthy situation.  See his reference to Nucleus.  I think people have forgotten that at the beginning wind instruments were indeed used extensively even in the prog side of JRF.  It sounds too jazzy now because of the subsequent shift towards a guitar dominated format but it was a part of the jazz rock vocabulary in the beginning and nothing wrong with a band re-treading those steps.  

...and it's got plenty of odd time sig playing so don't tell me it's just straight up extended instrumental music.  It's not.  It's ok if you want to reject it but it's not hip hop for God's sake.

Well, I'll leave it to the JRF team to explain why they had to reject it but all I know is I liked the sample so much I have already set up that album on download from bandcamp.  So thanks much for the post.