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Stooge 
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 Posted: September 09 2010 at 10:20 |
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It's probably been over a month since I've posted here, so I guess I'll say something now.
Although I was not blown away by the last bunch of DT album's, Portnoy's departure stunned me greatly. I had a feeling there was bound to be a change in DT eventually, but Portnoy was not the one I expected to leave. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised since he nearly left around the time of Falling Into Infinity, but the man I thought would leave would be the ever-quiet John Myung, possibly even James Labrie.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'd want to see JM or JL go, but it's just a bit odd that the seemingly most controlling member of the band is the one that leaves it.
At the end of the day, I look forward to the aftermath of this decision. Maybe this will give Dream Theater a chance to evaluate their recent efforts and somewhat revitalize them. I'm not going to speculate why Mike left DT, but based on what he has said I understand his reasons.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 10:09 |
 Textbook wrote:
This is going to create a lot of anticipation for the next DT album that otherwise wouldn't be there. It was going to be "just another DT album, yawn" for most people- I know fans disagree but the wider consensus is that Systematic Chaos and BCSL were skippable. But now people will be watching the 2011 album keenly to see if they pull this transition off. |
Indeed it will. A lot of people (including myself) will certainly be on the lookout. I disagree with your statement about SC and BC&SL being skippable, however. I think they were strong releases, nothing over the top, but solid nonetheless.
I see Mike returning after DT's next album and (I assume) the supporting tour...similar (somewhat) to what happened with Jon Anderson with Yes.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 10:06 |
Bad news but i'm not too fond in DT to be honest.
Serious throwback to DT fans.
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Roland113
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:53 |
infandous wrote:
Maybe Portnoy could be the next Flower Kings drummer?  (not a good fit)
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. . . and suddenly "IKEA by Night" becomes a twenty two minute epic.
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:50 |
Logan wrote:
Maybe Myung will now have a little more chance to shine, and will finally be able to do that free-form jazz
exploration "Jazz Odyssey" for Dream Theater Mark II.
On another note, is it true that Christian Vander has been asked to replace Portnoy?
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I hope not.
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infandous
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:48 |
Well, I'm not a huge fan, but I have enjoyed there more recent work (in small doses). However, it's pretty obvious DT has been on autopilot for a few albums now (or so it seems to me) so this just might give them a chance to head in a new direction, since Portnoy seems to have been the prime mover of the band. Of course, it could also be a complete disaster if Pettruci writes all the lyrics (seriously). If it means more Transatlantic (which is not necessarily going to happen, since the other members have plenty going on), that would be excellent. Maybe Portnoy could be the next Flower Kings drummer? (not a good fit) Anyway, sounds like he's doing what he needs to do and hopefully it will all be for the best.
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Single Coil
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:43 |
James LaBrie's solo album (Static Impulse) comes out this month.
Probably doesn't suggest the end of DT in any way, especially since the band says their continuing.
But I'm curious about the timing. Like James LaBrie knew he would have plenty of time to record and tour in support of the release.
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:35 |
DangerousCurves wrote:
I was suprised and shocked after finding this out, I did not see this coming at all. I fully understand his reasons though. I agree it could be a good thing for both parties and who knows? They could be back together again before long.
I don't believe the decision had anything to do with money. |
and knowing mike, he'll make reunion tours two months after leaving...
nahh money has nothing to do, is not freaking the beatles here, its DT
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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TheClosing
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:28 |
Tony R wrote:
I think the $40,000 a show he's allegedly getting with AS might have something to do with his decision. |
Artist/Event: AVENGED SEVENFOLD, COHEED & CAMBRIA, EIGHTEEN VISIONS
Venue: Aragon Ballroom
City/State: Chicago, Ill.
Date: May 10, 2006
Gross Sales: $113,438
Attendance: 4,125
Capacity: 4,500
Not sure where you pulled that magic number from, but no way he's walking out of their shows with that kind of money. Plus I doubt he gets a cut of the merch sales.
Edited by TheClosing - September 09 2010 at 09:54
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DangerousCurves
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:09 |
I was suprised and shocked after finding this out, I did not see this coming at all. I fully understand his reasons though. I agree it could be a good thing for both parties and who knows? They could be back together again before long.
I don't believe the decision had anything to do with money.
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 08:10 |
WHY WHY WHYYYY CANT IT BE lABRIE LEAVING INSTEAD WHY!!! 
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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kawkaw123
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 07:40 |
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Im going to cry
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 07:23 |
is this some sort of twisted 9/11 joke? anyway, DT has been doing down the hill since a while now ... RIP DT 
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 07:23 |
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Look on the bright side - hopefully we'll see more projects featuring Mike Portnoy.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 07:15 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Sad as it is, this could inject something fresh into DT. Think of the positives. |
Like more Transatlantic albums?
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 07:13 |
Roland113 wrote:
Tony R wrote:
I think the $40,000 a show he's allegedly getting with AS might have something to do with his decision. |
See, I would disagree there cause he's probably paying about five thousand a night out of pocket for the Transatlantic gigs.
In my mind, it goes something like this:
Roadie walks up to Portnoy: Mr. Portnoy, umm, the pizza guy is here.
Mike Portnoy: Oh, great, tell him to put it over there, Pete was getting hungry, (looks around) where did Pete go anyways?
Roadie: Umm, yeah, he was hoping to get paid.
MP: (Blinks) oh, go ask Neal, I paid in Berlin
Roadie: He's indisposed.
MP: in the bathroom?
Roadie: No, umm.
MP: Oh, right praying, ask Pete.
Roadie: He's also indisposed.
MP: Neal got him too?
Roadie: No, He's in the bathroom
MP: And I suppose Roine's missing as well.
Roadie: I think he's arguing with Australia or something, he keeps shouting Nads.
MP: (sighs and pulls out his wallet) You know, this is the fifth night in a row that I've paid for the pizza.
Sound Tech walks in: Mr. Portnoy, the guy's done fixing the sound board and wants to get out of here.
MP: and let me guess, he needs paid. (Looks up into the rafters of the hall, speaking to no one in particular) I'd like to point out that this is only the fifth night on the tour.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 07:03 |
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
This is seriously the worst thing in the history of music for me... |
Some people need to get a grip about this.
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Roland113
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 06:53 |
Tony R wrote:
I think the $40,000 a show he's allegedly getting with AS might have something to do with his decision. |
See, I would disagree there cause he's probably paying about five thousand a night out of pocket for the Transatlantic gigs. In my mind, it goes something like this: Roadie walks up to Portnoy: Mr. Portnoy, umm, the pizza guy is here. Mike Portnoy: Oh, great, tell him to put it over there, Pete was getting hungry, (looks around) where did Pete go anyways? Roadie: Umm, yeah, he was hoping to get paid. MP: (Blinks) oh, go ask Neal, I paid in Berlin Roadie: He's indisposed. MP: in the bathroom? Roadie: No, umm. MP: Oh, right praying, ask Pete. Roadie: He's also indisposed. MP: Neal got him too? Roadie: No, He's in the bathroom MP: And I suppose Roine's missing as well. Roadie: I think he's arguing with Australia or something, he keeps shouting Nads. MP: (sighs and pulls out his wallet) You know, this is the fifth night in a row that I've paid for the pizza. Sound Tech walks in: Mr. Portnoy, the guy's done fixing the sound board and wants to get out of here. MP: and let me guess, he needs paid. (Looks up into the rafters of the hall, speaking to no one in particular) I'd like to point out that this is only the fifth night on the tour.
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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Textbook
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 06:50 |
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This is going to create a lot of anticipation for the next DT album that otherwise wouldn't be there. It was going to be "just another DT album, yawn" for most people- I know fans disagree but the wider consensus is that Systematic Chaos and BCSL were skippable. But now people will be watching the 2011 album keenly to see if they pull this transition off.
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martinprog77
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 05:38 |
sad news .but let see where mike goes now he is a great .drummer
and also how dt sounds without mike is something weird if you think about it
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