Zeuhl 5

Yukorin wrote:   Might start a thread about The Human League. I have (subconsciously) ? mentioned them well more than I should. Possible zeuhl connection ? haha ! But there was a definate connection between the water supplies of Sheffield, UK and Nancy, France. Just have to prove it

Haha, I think you would be more than welcome to start a thread. But then again it depends a lot of how many people are farmilar with the band, it would be interesting to see what sort of replies you would get.
I would definately agree there are ties from UK and France, just think how close they are. Surely some ideas were smuggled across the channel.

Also thanks for the pictures.

I was just listening to a CD this morning upon waking up and I was wondering what people thought of Shub-Niggurath's 1991 album C'Étaient De Très Grands Vents. I know nearly every man and his dog has heard there first and this seemingly get mixed reaction. But for me personally I have grown a percuilar like towards this second fully album of theirs. Needless to say it a far it more experimental than their first but giving persistance this is something very worth while. I just want to know what other people think? Also is their '94 album worth getting. The site only has one rating with no reviews at all.

Also is there no love on this site for Olive Mess or Uppsala?
    

  Might start a thread about The Human League. I have (subconsciously) ? mentioned them well more than I should. Possible zeuhl connection ? haha ! But there was a definate connection between the water supplies of Sheffield, UK and Nancy, France. Just have to prove it

Are yes the infamous NNW list. Steve has really done some good work putting it together. Also just a mishape I love the work he has done with David Tibet. It is good to see the old Krautrock and Japanese scene is not totally over looked in his tastes.

This is a nice site which state particular albums by the bands on the list

myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/nww/nwwlist.html

I have heard little NNW which is unforunate; especially when my local store stock some works. I remember their first being in there a little while ago but last time I checked the stock it was gone I have been meaning to look more deeply into the early English experimental scene, but have as of yet the put aside much time for this plight.

What do you know about their 1987 release:

DRUNK WITH THE OLD MAN OF

is it worth my while?

Yes Karuna Khyal is very closely link, rumoured the same people. So same band different name. There is nothing known about the line-up, but I have word that it was the project of some of the managers of Voice Records (the label which released it)

One second I will find the review I did for it. I'm not the best reviewer but it should give a bit more indepth idea.

"Alomoni 1985 is a long lost artefact from the underground Japanese scene during the mid '70s. The album was release privately by Voice records around 1976 and re- released on Paradigm Discs in 1998, limited to 500 hand numbered records. There is very little known about the group; band members and production information are both unknown. Around the same time ('75) the group released another album under a different name Debon by Brast Burn which act as a perfect pair to this album.

Over the last decade many rumours about the band have been circulating the Japanese Psychedelic underground scene who owes a huge debt to Karuna Khyal in all their oddities. Although hailing from Japan their influences are mainly drawn from the German Kraut rock scene, following in the foot steps of greats such as Faust, Guru Guru and Can, alongside large influences from the bluesy rock played by Hapshash & The Coloured Coat and Captain Beefheart. Throughout the vocals are not dissimilar to Damo Suzuki hysterics; mumbled and sometimes screamed in insanity. Their overall sound is defined by their raw primitive bluesy sound, wealths of tape manipulation, plenty of mouth organ, electronic sounds, electrifying jam sessions, crazy vocals… all packaged up nicely into two lengthy composition.

Contain only two full blown psychedelic trip clocking in just short of 50 minutes this album will leave you strung out pleading for your sanity back. Each song is structured up on hypnotic rhythms, which is surprising considering the lack of drums in the album. In short this is one of the most addictive albums I have ever listened to. This one will be put on repeat for days at a time, unable to bring myself to stop the immense pleasure I receive from listening to this album.

The first piece "Karuna Khyal part 1" is a connection of smaller pieces fused together to produce one large song. In most cases an amazing flow between the pieces is found throughout. Imagine Captain Beef heart's Minor man slowing down to about half pace counteracted by other worldly ambience built up via haunting tap loops and frightening side guitar work. Unfortunately this track can loose its footings at times spoiling the overall effortless flow of the song. The only thing I can say about the second song "Karuna Khyal part 2" is Perfection. This is of the most electrifying psychedelic/ experimental music I have heard. The madness only intensifies from here on in, reminding me somewhat of Hapshash & The Coloured Coat's early material. I cannot describe this track with words; it is something you have to listen to believe.

This was one of my first introductions into the Japanese scene and holds a dear place in my heart. This is not to say it was love at first site, it was a tedious experience coming to terms with the genius of this album. At first there seemed little point or direction to this album, but with each listen you will piece together new links. I cannot stress enough time is something this album needs.

Unfortunately I cannot award Alomoni 1985 with a five star rating like I would if the album was solely "Karuna Khyal part 2". I can find too many faults in the first song to confidently give this a masterpiece status. Highly recommended especially to fanatic Kraut rock and Japanese psychedelic fans."


Yes I am very interested in the 000 cd, PM me and maybe we could sort something out?
    

I know this is not strickly on the topic of Zeuhl but Yukorin I was wondering what your opinion of Brast Burn and Karuna Khyal is? I have written a review for Karuna Khyal, I was very surprised to see this on the archives. So you know their music?

Yukorin wrote: As an aside, my old boss used to be the original drummer in the ultra-mysterious Les Rallies DesNudes/Hadaka no Rallies ! Right miserable sod he is. Ok, back on zeuhl. Can anyone answer my earlier question about the best version of Kohntarkosz I ever heard ? The bootleg is on the world-renowned 'Kisses Deluxe' (Kiss No.11) label and Kohntarkosz is 33mins32. Claims to be recorded at Reims, France in Mars (March May ? ! My French is pitiful haha) 2nd, 1976. The sound quality is all over the shop but it really adds to the tension ! Surely not the same as the 7th Records release ? !

             Having heard Fush*tsusha (probably one of AMT's Kawabata Makoto side projects) all I can suggest is to prepare yourself. No respect for Dolby !


                       Did you track down the Triple Zero cd yet ? Probably no chance of a download. Bizarre cd jacket as well (in that there isn't one)

 BV start writing. I'm so serious.


           I can only talk Zeuhl and Krautrock (and, if you really push me, the early years of The Human League)

                                  You are wasted here my friend ! Get yerself down to a publisher 'I haves a nice lil earner here'  Can't go wrong ! Mention yer ol' friend Yukorin for 10 per cent while yer at it.


                              Seriously great knowledge, I would PM you on this. But, the wider audience needs to know.

 BV you are wasted here. Please write a book. I will be first in the line.


          I'm serious.


                  Also I read a few posts by Steven Wilson and some of the responses got me right peeved. I don't really know any of the mans' work but I like to think we welcome new members here. BV, you know so much. But I bet a small per cent was from visiting here.

 you are on the right lines there BV !

      my ex-boss (one chance in 5 million he is reading this right now) has totally changed track. Let's just say he is into the younger girl market.


                            


              BTW apparantly Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree is posting.


                           I heard (from these guys last year) that Stella Vander was a regular poster 2 years ago.