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Epignosis 
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 Posted: February 14 2010 at 17:05 |
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To Epignosis : as I mentioned some posts above, i am tired of all those "you know there is that pop band which released a proggy, prog-related [insert the word you want with "prog"] album, and this album is their best" (of course because it's more proggy than its predecessors). For example, Daniel Balavoine released a prog concept-album in the seventies, but it really pales to its synth-pop mastepiece which is 'sauver l'amour'.
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I never said it was their best album because it was proggy. You made that assumption, and it was faulty. No offense, but please learn to read what is written before you respond to it.
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 17:02 |
^^ Should we have a Semi-Prog Sub-Genre?
Anyway - Again!
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lucas
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 17:02 |
Thanks akamaison.
To Epignosis : as I mentioned some posts above, i am tired of all those "you know there is that pop band which released a proggy, prog-related [insert the word you want with "prog"] album, and this album is their best" (of course because it's more proggy than its predecessors). For example, Daniel Balavoine released a prog concept-album in the seventies, but it really pales to its synth-pop mastepiece which is 'sauver l'amour'.
Back to the topic. Listening to this (recorded more than 40 years after their debut album, and featuring some of the original members !!!) :
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:58 |
Rush SignalsHow is eveyone doing today? 
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:48 |
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what kind of music is this ? |
Lucas I really dont know. Which is why I don't write reviews. There is a guest appearance by David Sylvian though. SOuful meloncholy!
Proggy? He he ! Not really but inteligent and beautiful
Spotify it!
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:39 |
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
lucas wrote:
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Their best, and a semi-prog album. 
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semi-prog ?
I believe you are refering to the lyrics, not the music.
If this is semi-prog, so PIL's 'a flower of romance' and Killing Joke's 'self-titled' album are 100 % prog. And what about Gang of Four's 'solid gold and another day' ?
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I'm sitting here listening to Discipline from King Crimson right now, and the "two" title tracks, as well as "Miss Gradenko" have quite a similar flavor and feel.
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No one said discipline is prog. It sounds more post-punk than prog.
Just like 80's Rush, not prog anymore, but still very enjoyable (it's even the Rush I prefer) which present a lot of similarities with Police, with the strong ska influence on Grace under pressure and the synth-pop of Power Windows and Hold your fire.
The music doesn't need to be prog to be good : cf their "best" and semi-prog.
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You make so many embarrassing assumptions.
By the way, do you know that I listen to country music, Amy Winehouse, and Alice in Chains?
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yes, I know, I even gave you new country suggestions in your eagles poll. But please don't associate police with prog. They are a good rock band, but have really nothing in common with prog-rock, at least the prog defined by bands like Genesis or Yes.
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Thanks for the "new" country suggestions, the likes of which THIS REDNECK FROM NORTH CAROLINA has never heard.
Get real. I make the statement that The Police have "semi-prog" songs and you get upset. What's wrong?
I can show you semi-prog tracks from The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Charlie Daniels, and even Lynyrd Skynyrd, if you want.
Edited by Epignosis - February 14 2010 at 16:40
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:34 |
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what kind of music is this ?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:31 |
Joan As Policewoman - To Survive
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:29 |
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:25 |
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lucas
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:18 |
Raff wrote:
lucas wrote:
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[QUOTE=Slartibartfast]while I have been meaning to get Reggatta De Blanc for a while.
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my favourite of theirs.
And just for the record, Police is NOT a prog band. They are moe linked to the punk movement than to the prog one. |
Proggy does not mean prog, in case you have not noticed. But then, in Italy we have a saying that goes, the worst deaf person is the one who doesn't want to hear.
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ok, now we are playing on words...
I am just tired of all these "you know it's a pop band but they have one album that has prog elements", followed by "it's their best". As I mentioned once when you posted the cover of Skaldowie's 'Krywań Krywań', it's not my favourite of theirs, prefering their poppier 'Ty' and Wszystkim zakochanym'.
back to the topic :
a very smooth album : Henryk Miśkiewicz's 'Uniesienie' (jazz with a symphonic orchestra and a female vocalist)
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:07 |
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 Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:03 |
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:00 |
lucas wrote:
Raff wrote:
[QUOTE=Slartibartfast]while I have been meaning to get Reggatta De Blanc for a while.
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my favourite of theirs.
And just for the record, Police is NOT a prog band. They are moe linked to the punk movement than to the prog one. |
Proggy does not mean prog, in case you have not noticed. But then, in Italy we have a saying that goes, the worst deaf person is the one who doesn't want to hear.
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:56 |
lucas wrote:
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this and its follow-up, 'III sides to every story'. |
Speaking of which: 
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J-Man
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:56 |
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Raff wrote:
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Their best, and a semi-prog album.
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semi-prog ?
I believe you are refering to the lyrics, not the music.
If this is semi-prog, so PIL's 'a flower of romance' and Killing Joke's 'self-titled' album are 100 % prog. And what about Gang of Four's 'solid gold and another day' ?
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I'm sitting here listening to Discipline from King Crimson right now, and the "two" title tracks, as well as "Miss Gradenko" have quite a similar flavor and feel.
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No one said discipline is prog. It sounds more post-punk than prog.
Just like 80's Rush, not prog anymore, but still very enjoyable (it's even the Rush I prefer) which present a lot of similarities with Police, with the strong ska influence on Grace under pressure and the synth-pop of Power Windows and Hold your fire.
The music doesn't need to be prog to be good : cf their "best" and semi-prog.
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You make so many embarrassing assumptions.
By the way, do you know that I listen to country music, Amy Winehouse, and Alice in Chains?
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yes, I know, I even gave you new country suggestions in your eagles poll. But please don't associate police with prog. They are a good rock band, but have really nothing in common with prog-rock, at least the prog defined by bands like Genesis or Yes.
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So if a band isn't 70's Symphonic Progressive Rock, then they automatically have no prog credentials? 
Edited by J-Man - February 14 2010 at 15:57
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lucas
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:54 |
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And yes, Synchronicity is proggy, which is not surprising, since all three musicians had something to do with prog in their earlier career.
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Well, Jean-Jacques Goldman played in Taļ Phong (symphonic prog).
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:53 |
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
lucas wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Raff wrote:
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Their best, and a semi-prog album.
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semi-prog ?
I believe you are refering to the lyrics, not the music.
If this is semi-prog, so PIL's 'a flower of romance' and Killing Joke's 'self-titled' album are 100 % prog. And what about Gang of Four's 'solid gold and another day' ?
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I'm sitting here listening to Discipline from King Crimson right now, and the "two" title tracks, as well as "Miss Gradenko" have quite a similar flavor and feel.
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No one said discipline is prog. It sounds more post-punk than prog.
Just like 80's Rush, not prog anymore, but still very enjoyable (it's even the Rush I prefer) which present a lot of similarities with Police, with the strong ska influence on Grace under pressure and the synth-pop of Power Windows and Hold your fire.
The music doesn't need to be prog to be good : cf their "best" and semi-prog.
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You make so many embarrassing assumptions.
By the way, do you know that I listen to country music, Amy Winehouse, and Alice in Chains?
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yes, I know, I even gave you new country suggestions in your eagles poll. But please don't associate police with prog. They are a good rock band, but have really nothing in common with prog-rock, at least the prog defined by bands like Genesis or Yes.
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Genesis and Yes definition of prog is quite a limited definition, don't you think?
If someone associates Prog with an album or song by a band that is not associated with Prog, does that mean it can't possibly be Prog?
Edited by The Quiet One - February 14 2010 at 15:54
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lucas
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:51 |
Raff wrote:
[QUOTE=Slartibartfast]while I have been meaning to get Reggatta De Blanc for a while.
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my favourite of theirs.
And just for the record, Police is NOT a prog band. They are moe linked to the punk movement than to the prog one.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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