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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


you still kept "modern" in the title LOL

LOL

You're surely entertaining, Paul. Smile


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^Of course he did. Did you really expect otherwise? It’s the sort of obtuse and obstinate behaviour that’s expected.of Paul. I certainly wouldn’t expect anything less.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Paul, you could change the title of the thread to

Your Top 7 Post-70's Prog Bands

like you write in the OP - that could make it easier for you. SmileSmile
I just have done, following Cristi's helpful suggestion, before I read your post. Thumbs Up

you still kept "modern" in the title LOL

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4. The Flower Kings
5. Big Big Train
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Paul, you could change the title of the thread to

Your Top 7 Post-70's Prog Bands

like you write in the OP - that could make it easier for you. SmileSmile
I just have done, following Cristi's helpful suggestion, before I read your post. Thumbs Up

you still kept "modern" in the title LOL
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Paul, you could change the title of the thread to

Your Top 7 Post-70's Prog Bands

like you write in the OP - that could make it easier for you. SmileSmile
I just have done, following Cristi's helpful suggestion, before I read your post. Thumbs Up
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Paul, you could change the title of the thread to

Your Top 7 Post-70's Prog Bands

like you write in the OP - that could make it easier for you. SmileSmile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Modern is anything post-‘70s? That’s a rather strange definition of modern! 😄🤪


you can say that again! Smile
Modern prog includes Marillion too. Smile

Marillion is a 40 something years old. How is that modern?
A band that has started making music in 2001 is 20 years old. 

Now do you understand the confusion? 
Sorry to be Captain Obvious again, but Marillion are a 198s Neo-Prog band, and Neo = New = Modern Prog, as opposed to Classic Prog from the 1970's. So there you go. Tongue

You missed my point. 

You can rename the thread and make it less confusing.
Just name it "favorite post 1980 prog band". 
Okay then. Sounds good to me. Thumbs Up
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I’d have to think about what the rest would be, but I guess the number one for me would be Tool, simply because they were the first modern prog band I got into, and even though I rarely listen to them these days, I still have a great deal of affection for their music.

So,

1. Tool

The other six might come along later, if I can decide just who they might be,

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Anyway, I'm going to wing this and see where it goes...

1. Spock's Beard
2. Present
3. 5uu's
4. Thinking Plague
5. Anekdoten
6. Beardfish
7. Izz

Edit: By the way, I think my 5-7 positions could vary widely. There are a LOT of great bands from 1980 to the present. My first four spots could easily interchange with each other depending on the moon [I mean mood, ha ha]. I almost wanted to put Present first because I've really been digging them lately, but Spock's Beard was the gateway band for my returning back to prog in the 1990s.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You guys make a good point but I see where Paul is coming from. Maybe "post seventies" is a better descriptor.

At the moment, it looks like we're going to have an endless debate about what constitutes modern prog, instead of anyone actually voting in the poll. Tongue

Well, that’s what you get when you throw about that description. If you wanted to discuss post-‘70s bands, then the easiest way to avoid arguments is to keep it simple, and call them post-‘70s bands. Otherwise it just looks like you were baiting (and Cristi and I bit), and let’s face it - you are in a bit of a boy who cried Wolf situation here. You have some renown for being controversial simply for the sake of it, and calling anything post-‘70s modern you must have either been incredibly naive, or expecting argument.

That's what I'm saying. I DID call them post-1970's bands in the intro, so as not to cause any confusion.  Wink

No, you didn’t. The title of the thread is for Modern Prog Bands, and your OP mentions post-70s only in brackets which makes is look like a qualification, rather than definition. If you truly didn’t want the confusion, you would not have mentioned the word modern at all, because you wouldn’t need to. Simply stating post-‘70s would have sufficed.

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2. Porcupine Tree
3. Opeth
4. Steven Wilson
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

the only problem I have with Paul’s post is his nomenclature.

I think, especially given how much focus the bands of that era get both on PA and outside it, that a thread about bands that are only post-‘70s is a good one. Just, don’t call them modern, when to most people (although obviously not Paul) modern means something more recent than something from four decades ago….

I thought the description "Modern Prog Bands" would be less controversial than "Neo Prog Bands", but maybe I was wrong. Smile

modern prog and neo-prog are two different things. 
Maybe I should get my coat and close the door on my way out. Big smile

On a positive note, it looks like Mostly Autumn are most likely to win this poll, seeing as no one else has voted yet. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

the only problem I have with Paul’s post is his nomenclature.

I think, especially given how much focus the bands of that era get both on PA and outside it, that a thread about bands that are only post-‘70s is a good one. Just, don’t call them modern, when to most people (although obviously not Paul) modern means something more recent than something from four decades ago….

I thought the description "Modern Prog Bands" would be less controversial than "Neo Prog Bands", but maybe I was wrong. Smile

Well, considering not every band on your own list is neo prog, does that mean you consider anything post-‘70s neo prog, regardless of what anyone else thinks? Because modern prog is not the equivalent of neo prog, and I really do think you know that. And yet, you wonder why people accuse you of trolling? 🙄

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You guys make a good point but I see where Paul is coming from. Maybe "post seventies" is a better descriptor.

At the moment, it looks like we're going to have an endless debate about what constitutes modern prog, instead of anyone actually voting in the poll. Tongue

Well, that’s what you get when you throw about that description. If you wanted to discuss post-‘70s bands, then the easiest way to avoid arguments is to keep it simple, and call them post-‘70s bands. Otherwise it just looks like you were baiting (and Cristi and I bit), and let’s face it - you are in a bit of a boy who cried Wolf situation here. You have some renown for being controversial simply for the sake of it, and calling anything post-‘70s modern you must have either been incredibly naive, or expecting argument.

That's what I'm saying. I DID call them post-1970's bands in the intro, so as not to cause any confusion.  Wink
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But then you also have modern history beginning in 1500. Modern art starts in the 1860s and ends in the 1970s with art after that called postmodern or contemporary. Modern is a weird word. The English language is weird too. And so am I.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

the only problem I have with Paul’s post is his nomenclature.

I think, especially given how much focus the bands of that era get both on PA and outside it, that a thread about bands that are only post-‘70s is a good one. Just, don’t call them modern, when to most people (although obviously not Paul) modern means something more recent than something from four decades ago….

I thought the description "Modern Prog Bands" would be less controversial than "Neo Prog Bands", but maybe I was wrong. Smile

modern prog and neo-prog are two different things. 
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

the only problem I have with Paul’s post is his nomenclature.

I think, especially given how much focus the bands of that era get both on PA and outside it, that a thread about bands that are only post-‘70s is a good one. Just, don’t call them modern, when to most people (although obviously not Paul) modern means something more recent than something from four decades ago….

I thought the description "Modern Prog Bands" would be less controversial than "Neo Prog Bands", but maybe I was wrong. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

You guys make a good point but I see where Paul is coming from. Maybe "post seventies" is a better descriptor.

At the moment, it looks like we're going to have an endless debate about what constitutes modern prog, instead of anyone actually voting in the poll. Tongue

Well, that’s what you get when you throw about that description. If you wanted to discuss post-‘70s bands, then the easiest way to avoid arguments is to keep it simple, and call them post-‘70s bands. Otherwise it just looks like you were baiting (and Cristi and I bit), and let’s face it - you are in a bit of a boy who cried Wolf situation here. You have some renown for being controversial simply for the sake of it, and calling anything post-‘70s modern you must have either been incredibly naive, or expecting argument.

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