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Tony R
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 16:19 |
Well the cat's out of the bag: Prog Drummer Goes Gaga!In a shock announcementMike Portnoy left American Prog Rockers Dream Theater today to join up with Lady Gaga who is planning a world tour this Fall. Portnoy, pictured above in secret rehearsals, is said to have fallen madly in love with the pop goddess and abandoned the current Avenged Sevenfold tour to be by her side. (courtesy of Rolling Stone Magazine)
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Rivertree
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 16:03 |
the whole world is in a permanent change .. why should DT be an exception? with 'Falling Into Infinity' they put me on the train into the new prog millenium ... thank you so much Mike all the best for his new projects ...
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:47 |
chopper wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
chopper wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
This is seriously the worst thing in the history of music for me... |
Some people need to get a grip about this. |
Considering I wasn't alive for the death of John Lennon, the departure of Peter Gabriel, and many other sad moments of music, they don't have as much of an effect on me. Did you ever perhaps consider that? Also, this is the first time a major member left one of my favourite bands (again, whilst I was alive I mean). But who cares, I'm fine with it now. Like Snow Dog, I'm thinking positive right now. |
Yes I did when you clarified the point later but your original posts suggests this is worse than the deaths of Lennon, Holly, Hendrix etc which is obviously not what you meant so I apologise. I am a fan of DT, I was just trying to put some perspective on this, that's all.
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chopper
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:45 |
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
chopper wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
This is seriously the worst thing in the history of music for me... |
Some people need to get a grip about this. |
Considering I wasn't alive for the death of John Lennon, the departure of Peter Gabriel, and many other sad moments of music, they don't have as much of an effect on me. Did you ever perhaps consider that? Also, this is the first time a major member left one of my favourite bands (again, whilst I was alive I mean). But who cares, I'm fine with it now. Like Snow Dog, I'm thinking positive right now. |
Yes I did when you clarified the point later but your original posts suggests this is worse than the deaths of Lennon, Holly, Hendrix etc which is obviously not what you meant so I apologise. I am a fan of DT, I was just trying to put some perspective on this, that's all.
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Andy Webb
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:39 |
well, this sucks.
i wonder what it would b like if gavin harrison joined dt...
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:38 |
chopper wrote:
Yes I was being (slightly) sarcastic about Genesis and Yes but there are things in this world more deserving of tears than a drummer leaving a prog-metal band who are largely unknown to the general public. Just look at the thread currently near this one about the death of an ex-member of ELO for instance.
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Yup. That should totally change how people feel.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:36 |
chopper wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
This is seriously the worst thing in the history of music for me... |
Some people need to get a grip about this. |
Considering I wasn't alive for the death of John Lennon, the departure of Peter Gabriel, and many other sad moments of music, they don't have as much of an effect on me. Did you ever perhaps consider that? Also, this is the first time a major member left one of my favourite bands (again, whilst I was alive I mean). But who cares, I'm fine with it now. Like Snow Dog, I'm thinking positive right now.
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chopper
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:16 |
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
chopper wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Sorry for the late response, but this has really crushed me. Being , admittedly, a Dream Theater fanboy, this is terrible news for me. I'm almost on the verge of tears.... |
As I said before, get a grip.
Some of us have lived through Gabriel leaving Genesis and Anderson/Wakeman leaving Yes. Now that's serious stuff. |
Well for the 20 somethings and less (J-Man is teenager...) this IS their Genesis and Yes scenario.....let the boy grieve, he's a good kid.
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Assuming you're not being sarcastic, this is close enough to the actual response I would give. Plus I'm in the group being described.
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Yes I was being (slightly) sarcastic about Genesis and Yes but there are things in this world more deserving of tears than a drummer leaving a prog-metal band who are largely unknown to the general public. Just look at the thread currently near this one about the death of an ex-member of ELO for instance.
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Ultime
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:11 |
nevertheless, all cjhanges are good for the evolution of musics in general - Mike will surely find some new great musicians and Dream Theater won't be as predictable as they were since Train of Thoughts
Lets hope fans will give the new drummer a chance - when Jordan Rudess came to Dream Theater, I read lots of bad comments but Jordan had given a lots to the musical evolution of the band
Lets give them a chance !!
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:03 |
toolis wrote:
The last DT album that really liked was SDOIT so maybe it will be better now, but who could replace him, really? |
Virgil Donati (?)
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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infandous
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:02 |
Here is the official statement from the band (haven't seen it posted here yet, unless I missed it somehow): “To all of our loyal fans and friends: It is with
profound sadness — regret — we announce that Mike Portnoy, our lifelong
drummer and friend, has decided to leave Dream Theater. Mike’s stature
in the band has meant the world to all of us professionally,
musically, and personally over the years. There is no dispute: Mike has
been a major force within this band.
While it is true that Mike is choosing to pursue other ventures and
challenges, we can assure you that Dream Theater will continue to move
forward with the same intensity — and in the same musical tradition —
that you have all helped make so successful, and which is truly
gratifying to us. Fans and friends: File this episode under Black Clouds and Silver Linings.
As planned, we begin recording our newest album in January 2011, and
we’ll follow that with a full-on world tour. “The Spirit Carries On.”
All of us in Dream Theater wholeheartedly wish Mike the best on his
musical journey. We have had a long and meaningful career together. It
is our true hope that he finds all he is looking for, and that he
achieves the happiness he deserves. He will be missed.”
Doesn't sound like they are going to be changing direction musically, unfortunately.
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Ultime
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 14:55 |
Arnold_Layne wrote:
Ultime wrote:
and genesis as a prog band had not survived to the departure of Gabriel/Hachett
same for Yes - Anderson had to comes back |
if by survived you meant 'keep on doing music but dropping incredibly in quality' then i guess you are right...
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I would be tempt to say yes but I should say nat as much in quality as in creativity...
for Genesis, quality was there but it was awful for our ears
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 14:48 |
Ultime wrote:
and genesis as a prog band had not survived to the departure of Gabriel/Hachett
same for Yes - Anderson had to comes back |
if by survived you meant 'keep on doing music but dropping incredibly in quality' then i guess you are right...
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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Proggy Pogo
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 14:43 |
I couldn't believe it when I heard this horrible news. I'm truly gutted, there have been tears today I just wish the band could have come to some compromise - MP clearly didn't want to leave and just wanted a break - I can't believe they could let him go!! I'm so grateful that I got to see DT in concert twice last year - I'll never forget those amazing shows. I hope it turns out to be a temporary thing and he rejoins in the future. Dream Theater just won't be the same without Mike Portnoy
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 14:22 |
Unexpected bad news. I'm no die hard DT fan, but for those who are this must be a very unwelcome surprise.
They're all great musicians, but Portnoy was such a high profile member - and a fantastic drummer - he'll be difficult to replace. I hope they do find someone to fill those big shoes, and carry on.
Edited by Blacksword - September 09 2010 at 14:22
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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toolis
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:38 |
The last DT album that really liked was SDOIT so maybe it will be better now, but who could replace him, really?
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Pekka
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:18 |
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
Raphitray wrote:
Actually, there is nothing about Portnoy joining Avenged SevenFold... |
No, but he's doing the drums on their next album.
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The next too? I tought it was just one and the tour.
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peart_lee_lifeson
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 13:06 |
WOW! This upsets me. It could produce a new musical direction for the band, but Portnoy is irreplaceable as far as technicality goes.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 12:35 |
Raphitray wrote:
Actually, there is nothing about Portnoy joining Avenged SevenFold... |
No, but he's doing the drums on their next album.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 12:34 |
Catcher10 wrote:
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
chopper wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Sorry for the late response, but this has really crushed me. Being , admittedly, a Dream Theater fanboy, this is terrible news for me. I'm almost on the verge of tears.... |
As I said before, get a grip.
Some of us have lived through Gabriel leaving Genesis and Anderson/Wakeman leaving Yes. Now that's serious stuff. |
Well for the 20 somethings and less (J-Man is teenager...) this IS their Genesis and Yes scenario.....let the boy grieve, he's a good kid.
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Assuming you're not being sarcastic, this is close enough to the actual response I would give. Plus I'm in the group being described.
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Nope...no sarcasm at all, I meant every word of it. Music means a lot to people......When I was a teenager, hell it was all I did (no computers, video games were Pong, no cell phones, cable TV...) music was all we had to take up most of our freetime....of course when I was not playing baseball....My music Forum was buying all the music mags and reading them from cover to cover over and over.....that's where we got our news from.
This is big stuff for a lot of people......(zero sarcasm).
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Oh, my bad. I was referring to chopper, not you. I should have clarified that.
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