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Todd
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Posted: February 24 2010 at 18:34 |
As a relative newcomer to this wonderful music, thank you all for your insights. I'll enjoy reading your recommendations--I fairly recently purchased about 20 cds from ProgQuebec, so I have a lot of great music to try to assimilate over the next few months!
May I suggest you give this Quebecois band a try:
HUNE
My favorite album of 2009!
HUNE's first album, "De l'Autre Côté du Monde," is a fabulous debut full of memorable melodies, dense textures, and wonderful vocals. HUNE appears to be the brainchild of guitarist (multi-instrumentalist?) Daniel Couturier, with vocals provided by André Bourget. With influences predominantly coming from England (I detect PINK FLOYD and KING CRIMSON most strongly) as well as from their native Quebec (SLOCHE, OCTOBRE, ERE G), HUNE provides a great synthesis of these diverse styles. The atmospheric moods of PINK FLOYD are particularly seen on the title track (a 25 minute opus) and the closing track, "Mission en Mer." Textures in the style of KING CRIMSON are scattered throughout all the songs. There are waves of mellotron, a busy rhythm section, Gilmour-esque minimalistic but singing guitar solos, more complex guitar textures often augmented by piano or organ, and the strong vocal harmonies of Bourget, used sparingly but quite effectively.
The title track is 25 minutes long and owes a large debt to the atmospheric moods of PINK FLOYD, evoking thoughts at times of "Shine On." The mood, initially dreamlike and slow, is provided by layers of keyboards playing dense chords, underlying acoustic guitar. The pace picks up considerably about 8 minutes in, eventually settling into Frippesque guitar textures. The vocals don't come until the song is nearly over, but when they do it eases some of the instrumental tension that has been building.
"Citadelle" showcases flowing melodic lines of keyboards, vocals, and singing guitar over halting rhythms and drum fills, many of which are wonderfully echoed by the bass. It's a complex arrangement that seems less so because of the contrasting melodies. My favorite passage occurs about nine minutes in, when there is a Crimsonian riff played over throbbing bass and mellotron--wow!!
Probably my favorite track is "La Lettre de Marque." Not only is the melody the most memorable on the album, but I love the section about three minutes in where stuttering bass and drums echo one another over mellotron, with soaring, shifting guitar licks fading in and out?man, it's just amazing. For good measure, the passage is reprised as the song fades out.
Overall, this is such an enjoyable album, one which really has left its mark on me. Greg Walker gives the album his coveted "essential!" rating, and KinesisCD says, "Without hyperbole, had this album been released in France at least 30 years earlier, it would today be considered one of the classic French progressive albums." I have to agree with them both wholeheartedly (noting that it's from Quebec, not France) and give it my unqualified praise. Cinq etoiles.
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The Rock
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 20:45 |
pierreolivier wrote:
For those who think that Quebec earliest prog album dated from 1971, i had news
for you. I discovered maybe the earliest Quebec prog album from a band called
"The Medium" from 1969. They made the soundtrack of the cult film by Claude Jutra
"Wow" and judging the music in this soundtrack, it's very progressive. Their music
remind me of The Nice.
Here's a link with informations with tracks from their sole album and a link to watch
the Claude Jutra film.
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I do agree that The Medium were among the first band of prog nature in Québec,but they were more of the proto-prog tinged psychedelia nature than genuine prog rock IMHO.
Others would argue that L'Infonie were proggin out as early as 1967 for that matter!
The Medium,no question should be on PA but I still believe that WD.Fisher delivered an album that was closer to prog as we came to know it(Beggars Opera,Rare Bird,Gracious,Spring,early Yes and Genesis....) than the Medium who's brand of rock owes as much to Iron Butterfly,Steppenwolf,Vanilla Fudge and other period psych as it does to The Nice who also owes a lot to psych.
Tha is not to put down The Medium or your fine opinion though.I do agree that The Medium were pioneers in Québec.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 20:38 |
Sean Trane wrote:
OK for Offenbach in Prog Related
We have the permission |
Oh, nice. Good job, Hugues!
I'm writing Guigou Chenevier's biography now, but after that, maybe I'll write.
But I'm currently working on the addition of multiple RIO/Avant artists, including some from Québec like Bernard Falaise, Klaxon Gueule, Ensemble SuperMusique, et cetera, et cetera.
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The Rock
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 20:35 |
machinemusic wrote:
Montreal, I would argue, is probably the capital city for vinyl (in terms of record stores per capita).
That means that if your patient enough, you can find find almost anything for decent prices. In terms of Quebec Prog, we also have a geographical advantage.
I got a copy of L'Infonie's Vol 3 a few months ago for 10$
Walter Boudreau and Raoul Duguay from l'Infonie performed Terry Rilley's in C in a church here last year. It was a little too didactic but interesting nonetheless. 333 participants!
You should check out Vol. 33 (Mantra) if you are curious to hear a 1970 rendition of In C by Boudreau and his friends. (Not pure Prog but close enough)
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I agree that there are some fine record stores in Montreal,but it's still hard to find some rare and obscure treasures such as Agape,Medium,WD.Fisher,Eden,1001 est Crémazie,ect... at an affordable price.
But your Infonie album for 10 buck is a nice score!
Edited by The Rock - February 23 2010 at 20:36
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pierreolivier
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 13:43 |
For those who think that Quebec earliest prog album dated from 1971, i had news
for you. I discovered maybe the earliest Quebec prog album from a band called
"The Medium" from 1969. They made the soundtrack of the cult film by Claude Jutra
"Wow" and judging the music in this soundtrack, it's very progressive. Their music
remind me of The Nice.
Here's a link with informations with tracks from their sole album and a link to watch
the Claude Jutra film.
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machinemusic
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 07:52 |
Montreal, I would argue, is probably the capital city for vinyl (in terms of record stores per capita). That means that if your patient enough, you can find find almost anything for decent prices. In terms of Quebec Prog, we also have a geographical advantage. I got a copy of L'Infonie's Vol 3 a few months ago for 10$ Walter Boudreau and Raoul Duguay from l'Infonie performed Terry Rilley's in C in a church here last year. It was a little too didactic but interesting nonetheless. 333 participants! You should check out Vol. 33 (Mantra) if you are curious to hear a 1970 rendition of In C by Boudreau and his friends. (Not pure Prog but close enough)
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 22 2010 at 06:35 |
OK for Offenbach in Prog Related
We have the permission
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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The Rock
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Posted: February 12 2010 at 23:49 |
Another band that comes to mind;
The Souls of Inspyration.Not sure if they fit in the Québec thread as I think they were from Ontario but they had a couple of Québecois musicians and have been living in Sherbrooke for awhile.Anyway,they were from Canada and were of prog nature.
Actually they remind me a bit of Mashmakhan.They were a late 60's early 70's band that sounds just like that;psych tinged early prog a la WD Fisher,early Morse Code Transmission,Dionysos,ect...
Proto prog?Maybe psych-space?
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The Rock
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Posted: February 12 2010 at 23:37 |
I have albums by ;
Man Made; A band that released an album back in 75(not sure).The artwork have to be seen to be believe!
The music is a eclectic mix of bluesrock,jazz fusion and psych.Singer sounds a lot like Arthur Brown.There are some horns on it played by members of VEBB,Roger Walls.Side two is a 20 minutes epic that starts mellow and slwowly builds up.Cool stuff and definetely PA material.
Another obscurity I have is Lagagnamo.They were from Québec city and released and album entitled ''saspeupu'' in 75.Famous blues guitarist Bob Walsh plays on it as well as members of Ungava.
Once again we are treated to a melting pot of styles;blues,jazz,psych weird sounds...it too features a sidelong cut similar in parts to early Soft Machine and Mothers.
The album is very rare as it was privatly pressed and has low-fi sound as it was recorded live in a bar.
But still PA material I think.
Pierre Nadeau's only(?) solo album ''Extra-ordinaire) features almost all of the core members of VEBB and sound a bit like them,naturally ,although mellower and without the funkiness of VEBB.
Soft fusion is what comes to mind but not the Kenny G kind of cheesyness!
More like Camel,Focus or even Rousseau's quieter side.
Still PA material.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 19:41 |
Aut' Chose is now on the archives.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 10:05 |
debrewguy wrote:
if I may play the devil's advocate, I picked up the Mashmakhan debut LP (very scratched, but I use a separate cheaper turntable for those). And if I may ... I don't see much prog there. No folk for sure, little Psych maybe, a stretch for Heavy prog for their longer tunes.
p.s. sorry for the late entry to the debate.
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They were more of a novelty band I would say. One of the members even said so himself in a recent interview.
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The Rock
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Posted: February 07 2010 at 22:10 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
Aut' Chose has been cleared for inclusion. I'm starting the bio! |
More good news!
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: February 07 2010 at 20:24 |
Aut' Chose has been cleared for inclusion. I'm starting the bio!
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
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debrewguy
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Posted: February 03 2010 at 14:36 |
if I may play the devil's advocate, I picked up the Mashmakhan debut LP (very scratched, but I use a separate cheaper turntable for those). And if I may ... I don't see much prog there. No folk for sure, little Psych maybe, a stretch for Heavy prog for their longer tunes.
p.s. sorry for the late entry to the debate.
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Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:51 |
Syrinx was actually a Toronto band lead by John Mills Cockell. Was primarily a synth band - Their album "Gateway" is excellent (also sometimes listed under JM Cockell) Somewhat similiar to early Synergy overlaid with some Mel Collins sax.
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The Rock
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Posted: February 02 2010 at 12:37 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Mashmakhan is now inPA
I entered it in prog folk for now and will move it whenever the psych team will accept them |
Bravo!
Of course Mashmakhan should be in psych....just as Ungava who should be in heavy prog instead of folk,imho.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 02 2010 at 10:01 |
Mashmakhan is now inPA
I entered it in prog folk for now and will move it whenever the psych team will accept them
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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MichelNeurophile
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Posted: February 02 2010 at 08:28 |
The Rock wrote:
Well,even on tape,having some of this rare unreleased stuff is quite interesting.You should contact ProgQuebec about it... |
But Prog Archives discographies don't include bootleg recordings. And the quality of sound is very bad !
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Posted: February 02 2010 at 07:31 |
The Rock wrote:
MichelNeurophile wrote:
The Rock wrote:
How about W.D Fisher?I tried to get them in awhile back but never got a response.They were THE first prog band to release a record in Québec.It came out in 71.They played a psych tinged early prog a la Beggars Opera,Rare Bird,pre-Wakeman Yes,Cressida,Gracious,ect....they sang in english. |
William D. Fisher was a very interesting band. Their album has 5 relatively long tracks.
They remind me, I don't why, of the times when the university radio station, CKRL-FM, in Québec City, was recording and playing many progressive bands who never released any albums. Some of them were : Way-Out, Oculus, Rubicon, Délima, Sedlitz (spelling?). I have some of their music on tape of bad quality.
Michel. |
Well,even on tape,having some of this rare unreleased stuff is quite interesting.You should contact ProgQuebec about it... |
Yup, I'm sure Sean or Stephen would appreciate it....
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
Okay. And what about Offenbach? |
Just like Peloquin, but this is only 6 months yet
Seriously, this could be very close to getting a YES , soon.
Edited by Sean Trane - February 02 2010 at 07:33
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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The Rock
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Posted: February 01 2010 at 23:26 |
MichelNeurophile wrote:
The Rock wrote:
How about W.D Fisher?I tried to get them in awhile back but never got a response.They were THE first prog band to release a record in Québec.It came out in 71.They played a psych tinged early prog a la Beggars Opera,Rare Bird,pre-Wakeman Yes,Cressida,Gracious,ect....they sang in english. |
William D. Fisher was a very interesting band. Their album has 5 relatively long tracks.
They remind me, I don't why, of the times when the university radio station, CKRL-FM, in Québec City, was recording and playing many progressive bands who never released any albums. Some of them were : Way-Out, Oculus, Rubicon, Délima, Sedlitz (spelling?). I have some of their music on tape of bad quality.
Michel. |
Well,even on tape,having some of this rare unreleased stuff is quite interesting.You should contact ProgQuebec about it...
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