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lovecraft
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 07:55 |
I love both. The question could do with being more specific.
If by better you mean more 'progressive' or original then I think Yes probably sneak it.
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Zargus
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 06:19 |
Yes, but Genesis is not far behind...
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Rockin' Chair
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 05:42 |
Genesis are my favourite band.
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magog
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 05:25 |
Genesis, of course...But Eduardossc has already said what I was going to say! (maybe I would have been shorter in his place!! )
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tuxon
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 03:47 |
Sir Hogweed wrote:
From Genesis To Hesitation. |
Yes for me too
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Cinema
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:44 |
Yes is definitely my preference.
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:38 |
Both occupy my top three, but I have to give the nod to the one that
produced five of the best albums I've ever heard in the span of
'70-'74. Since that's far too ambiguous, Genesis.
The poll's 56-41 for Yes with my vote, I'm surprised, it's not closer.
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JesusBetancourt
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:17 |
That was the hardest descision I have ever made.........Yes , forgive me genesis , you were my first.
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John 7:38
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Zac M
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:14 |
While neither are my favorite bands, I like more of Genesis' material
overall and get more enjoyment from listening to them, so it's obvious
really .
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:07 |
Not a single doubt, Genesis not only my favorite band, but overall a band.
Yes was based in virtuoso characteristics of their members, Genesis was a team work, nobody tried to prove he was the best, each and every one worked for the band, even Gabriel stories and his costumes had a purpose, to explain the lyrics.
Yes isn't even in my top 5, maybe not even on my top 10, I hate Jon Anderson's voice (Maybe hate is a too strong word, but I don't like his voice at all).
Iván
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:02 |
eduardossc wrote:
YES was always more accesible to the audience, that´s why more people like it. Even among prog-heads like the ones in this site. |
That's a really wierd comment. I'm not critisizing; to each his own, after all. But it's been said many times that Genesis are the "prettiest sounding" classic prog band. Yes on the other hand had many dissonant, experimental, improvisational bits, especially in the TFTO/Relayer phase, which is in my opinion their strongest period. It's not uninspired, it's just further outside the box than Genesis usually went. That's why I personally prefer Yes. That, and the fact that I find their music to be more impassioned. This last point is VERY arguable, however, and it's just me, so feel free to ignore it entirely.
Oh, and just figured I'd mention that CTTE isn't in a pop format, it's in sonata form.
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mirco
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:01 |
Obviously it's a matter of taste, I enjoy a lot more the listening of Yes than Genesis.
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 18:53 |
Love them both,but if I have to choose one I'll choose Yes.
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Crafter
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 18:44 |
I like both, but Genesis... One of my favourite band for ever...
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Uh ? Oh, I see :D
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 18:30 |
Yes and Genesis are my two favourite bands. I'd say they're on the same level for me, but I listen a bit more to Yes than to Genesis, so if I have to choose (and this poll leaves no tie-option / tie - rack ) then it's Yes.
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BebieM
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:23 |
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Fritha
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:57 |
Since this is PROGarhives, I will limit my assessment to the proggy years of these two bands. (Cheeky me as I haven't really explored either band's pop material yet, ahem... )
Both are great, but overall I do admire the pure musicality of Yes' best moments more than I admire the high points (personal opinion, of course) of Genesis. Also, the sometimes overblown theatrical streak of Genesis songs doesn't sit as well with me as the more sophisticated approach by Yes. Gates of Delirium can certainly get kind of theatrical, too, but it's still a different kind of theatricality than the one found in Supper's Ready or The Musical Box...or The Battle of Epping Forest, for that matter. While Yes can get a bit too hyper sometimes, Genesis can get, well, a bit too pompous for their own good (Apocalypse in 9/8 and the ending of Supper's Ready -yikes)
Then again, we can't forget TFTO, which is far too meandering for its own good...and it doesn't have the hooks that Genesis were very good at even before their pop years.
Still, Yes all the way for me. (One only needs to compare the bass-playing of Squire and Ruthford to come to that conclusion ) Listening to Yes at their best is for me a more intense experience than listening to the classic Genesis material; it's more assertive somehow, it demands one's concentration to the fullest. To use a rather clumsy analog: the musical gold nuggets of Genesis might be more visible and accessible than those of Yes (which perhaps gives Genesis an emotional edge) but that is also why Yes manages to hold my interest better than Genesis.
Finally, IMO Genesis never made a practically perfect prog record. Yes did.
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micky
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:07 |
eduardossc wrote:
Good topic. Also, the idea of making a
rivalry out of two bands is very interesting. I wish more people would
also be explicit why they think one is better than the other. I´ll try
to do that with my limited english.
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agreed, and I'll try to do that as well.
Yes for the simple fact that they ARE the embodyment of prog.
There is a reason that kids who get into 'classic' prog GENERALLY
use Yes as an entry point. They well represent the things that
prog symbolizes to many. Virtusoistic instrumental skills,
multiple 'epic' songs that are standards of the genre, the idea that
prog was overblown and pretentious. I disagree strongly with at least
one earlier post, Yes were THE quitensential prog group. An album
reviewer, John McFerrin said it best about Yes. " They were the
most accessible of the 'wierd' groups and the least accessible of the
'normal' groups.
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UncleMeat
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 15:47 |
Love them both, but the best albums were made by Genesis. I am not
particularly fond of albums like Invisible Touch, Duke or Calling all
stations, but Tormato and other newer Yes stuff is also not my choice.
Biggest difference for me is the singer. For me, Gabriels voice carries
more feeling, is more sensitive. I sometimes get annoyed by the high
pitched Anderson voice.
IMO, Genesis' lyrics are also better than most Yes lyrics( but this is
maybe because I can understand most Genesis songs, and can not
understand most Yes songs). Yes lyrics often sound to 'out of this
earth' for me.
It looks like my choice is only influence by the singer (Gabriel -
Anderson). And I must even say that I like the first two Collins-sung
genesis albums also very much.
BTW, recently Anderson visited Tilburg in the Netherlands, a city (some
180.000 inhabitants) where he lived for a short time in the late
sixties 67/68. He sung with a Dutch band Le Cruches (for other Dutch
members of Progarchives, Henny Vrienten was also in this band) for a
short while and releasedsome solo singles in this period. Jon gave a
solo concert in Tilburg. A friend went there and told me it was a good
performance.
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Garbs
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 14:44 |
Like most posters here, I love both the music of Genesis & Yes - mainly the 70s era - and both have contributed so much to prog rock's heritage.
I think Genesis just shade it for me though - to me they are the quintessential prog band.
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