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Poll Question: Which is better OVERALL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 07:55
I love both. The question could do with being more specific.

If by better you mean more 'progressive' or original then I think Yes probably sneak it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 06:19
Yes, but Genesis is not far behind...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 05:42
Genesis are my favourite band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 05:25
Genesis, of course...But Eduardossc has already said what I was going to say!(maybe I would have been shorter in his place!!)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 03:47

Originally posted by Sir Hogweed Sir Hogweed wrote:

From Genesis To Hesitation.

Yes for me too

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:44
Yes is definitely my preference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:38
Both occupy my top three, but I have to give the nod to the one that produced five of the best albums I've ever heard in the span of '70-'74. Since that's far too ambiguous, Genesis.

The poll's 56-41 for Yes with my vote, I'm surprised, it's not closer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:17
That was the hardest descision I have ever made.........Yes, forgive me genesis, you were my first.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:14
While neither are my favorite bands, I like more of Genesis' material overall and get more enjoyment from listening to them, so it's obvious really.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 00:07

Not a single doubt, Genesis not only my favorite band, but overall a band.

Yes was based in virtuoso characteristics of their members, Genesis was a team work, nobody tried to prove he was the best, each and every one worked for the band, even Gabriel stories and his costumes had a purpose, to explain the lyrics.

Yes isn't even in my top 5, maybe not even on my top 10, I hate Jon Anderson's voice (Maybe hate is a too strong word, but I don't like his voice at all).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:02

Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:

YES was always more accesible to the audience, that´s why more people like it. Even among prog-heads like the ones in this site.

That's a really wierd comment.  I'm not critisizing; to each his own, after all.  But it's been said many times that Genesis are the "prettiest sounding" classic prog band.  Yes on the other hand had many dissonant, experimental, improvisational bits, especially in the TFTO/Relayer phase, which is in my opinion their strongest period.  It's not uninspired, it's just further outside the box than Genesis usually went.  That's why I personally prefer Yes.  That, and the fact that I find their music to be more impassioned.  This last point is VERY arguable, however, and it's just me, so feel free to ignore it entirely.

Oh, and just figured I'd mention that CTTE isn't in a pop format, it's in sonata form.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:01
Obviously it's a matter of taste, I enjoy a lot more the listening of Yes than Genesis.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 18:53
Love them both,but if I have to choose one I'll choose Yes.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 18:44
I like both, but Genesis... One of my favourite band for ever...
Uh ? Oh, I see :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 18:30
Yes and Genesis are my two favourite bands. I'd say they're on the same level for me, but I listen a bit more to Yes than to Genesis, so if I have to choose (and this poll leaves no tie-option / tie - rack ) then it's Yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:57

Since this is PROGarhives, I will limit my assessment to the proggy years of these two bands. (Cheeky me as I haven't really explored either band's pop material yet, ahem... )

Both are great, but overall I do admire the pure musicality of Yes' best moments more than I admire the high points (personal opinion, of course) of Genesis. Also, the sometimes overblown theatrical streak of Genesis songs doesn't sit as well with me as the more sophisticated approach by Yes. Gates of Delirium can certainly get kind of theatrical, too, but it's still a different kind of theatricality than the one found in Supper's Ready or The Musical Box...or The Battle of Epping Forest, for that matter. While Yes can get a bit too hyper sometimes, Genesis can get, well, a bit too pompous for their own good (Apocalypse in 9/8 and the ending of Supper's Ready -yikes)

Then again, we can't forget TFTO, which is far too meandering for its own good...and it doesn't have the hooks that Genesis were very good at even before their pop years.

Still, Yes all the way for me. (One only needs to compare the bass-playing of Squire and Ruthford to come to that conclusion  ) Listening to Yes at their best is for me a more intense experience than listening to the classic Genesis material; it's more assertive somehow, it demands one's concentration to the fullest. To use a rather clumsy analog: the musical gold nuggets of Genesis might be more visible and accessible than those of Yes (which perhaps gives Genesis an emotional edge) but that is also why Yes manages to hold my interest better than Genesis.

Finally, IMO Genesis never made a practically perfect prog record. Yes did. 

 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:07
Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:

 Good topic. Also, the idea of making a rivalry out of two bands is very interesting. I wish more people would also be explicit why they think one is better than the other. I´ll try to do that with my limited english.

 



agreed, and I'll try to do that as well.

Yes for the simple fact that they ARE the embodyment of prog.  There is a reason that kids who get into 'classic' prog  GENERALLY use Yes as an entry point.  They well represent the things that prog symbolizes to many.  Virtusoistic instrumental skills,  multiple 'epic' songs that are standards of the genre, the idea that prog was overblown and pretentious. I disagree strongly with at least one earlier post, Yes were THE quitensential prog group.  An album reviewer, John McFerrin said it best about Yes.  " They were the most accessible of the 'wierd' groups and the least accessible of the 'normal' groups. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 15:47
Love them both, but the best albums were made by Genesis. I am not particularly fond of albums like Invisible Touch, Duke or Calling all stations, but Tormato and other newer Yes stuff is also not my choice.
Biggest difference for me is the singer. For me, Gabriels voice carries more feeling, is more sensitive. I sometimes get annoyed by the high pitched Anderson voice.
IMO, Genesis' lyrics are also better than most Yes lyrics( but this is maybe because I can understand most Genesis songs, and can not understand most Yes songs). Yes lyrics often sound to 'out of this earth' for me.
It looks like my choice is only influence by the singer (Gabriel - Anderson). And I must even say that I like the first two Collins-sung genesis albums also very much.

BTW, recently Anderson visited Tilburg in the Netherlands, a city (some 180.000 inhabitants) where he lived for a short time in the late sixties 67/68. He sung with a Dutch band Le Cruches (for other Dutch members of Progarchives, Henny Vrienten was also in this band) for a short while and releasedsome solo singles in this period. Jon gave a solo concert in Tilburg. A friend went there and told me it was a good performance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 14:44

Like most posters here, I love both the music of Genesis & Yes - mainly the 70s era - and both have contributed so much to prog rock's heritage.

I think Genesis just shade it for me though - to me they are the quintessential prog band.

So here I am once more
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