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I want to share with you some thought about my first nomination, "Sassi" by Gino Paolo.


This song is from 1960, and follows the Italian melodic tradition, with a 1950s-style orchestral arrangement. But beware: to be a love song of those years it is revolutionary. The melody is melancholy and almost dramatic, the text is short and repetetive, as it used to be in that years, but it is existentialist, and conceives love and life as an eternal defeat, a consummation without ever being able to renew itself. At the end of the song, another revolutionary fact for the time, at least in Italy: we can feel the waves of the sea which are the emblem of destiny that consumes everything.
I dont know many singer-songwriters able to write existentential lyrics accompanied with dramatic music in 1960 (maybe Johnny Cash?)

If you want to listen carefully to the song, please do it by following the lyrics:

Sassi che il mare ha consumato, sono le mie parole d'amore per te. 
Stones that the sea has consumed are my words of love for you.
Io non ti ho saputo amare, non ti ho saputo dare quel che volevi da me. 
I have not been able to love you I have not been able to give you what you wanted from me.

Ogni parola che ci diciamo è stata detta mille volte, ogni attimo che noi viviamo è stato vissuto mille volte. 
Every word we say has been said a thousand times, every moment we live has been lived a thousand times.

Sassi che il mare ha consumato sono le mie parole d'amore per te. 
Stones that the sea has consumed are my words of love for you.
Ogni parola che ci diciamo è stata detta mille volte, ogni attimo che noi viviamo è stato vissuto mille volte. 
Every word we say has been said a thousand times, every moment we live has been lived a thousand times.

Sassi che il mare ha consumato sono le mie parole d'amore per te.
Stones that the sea has consumed are my words of love for you.


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From 1967, my favorite guilty pleasure Nancy Sinatra with Lee Hazlewood - "My Elusive Dreams"



Number 2 is from a band called The Moving Sidewalks, a group that was short lived and would have never been heard of before if not for one of their members, Billy Gibbons, who became famous for ZZ Top:

The Moving Sidewalks - You Don't Know the Life"



Once again, I want to post another early and unheard of song by The Steve Miller Band.  Not many people know that another popular singer/songwriter from the 70s got his start with Steve Miller, and he actually sings this track:  Boz Scaggs

The Steve Miller Band - Dime-a-Dance Romance



And finally, we have another obscure band called The Hollywood Persuaders doing an instrumental led by their guitarist, a then unknown but amazing guitarist with the first name of Frank ... Zappa that is.

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My second nomination is Young Flowers - "Oppe i træet" (Up in the tree, 1968):

(I could not access a separate YouTube link to the song, but it starts at 15:02 in this clip: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XKnmxzykKoU)

More acid rock obviously, Young Flowers was a short-lived power trio with Peter Ingemann (bass, vocals), Peer Frost (guitar) and Ken Gudman (drums). It's perhaps not the most original music you would come across (the inspirations were clearly Cream and Jimi Hendrix), and the wah-wah is a bit overused. Nevertheless, "Oppe i træet" is a very catchy song, and I guess it counts as a guilty pleasure for my part.

Lyrics translation:

Up in the tree I am sitting
And I am far, far away
And I am far, far away
And I am far away

Hey, you should see how it is bubbling and sliding
And sneaking around in the bush
Do I like it?
Do I like it?
Man, the darkness is dark

[I'm] In a landscape of sounds and beautiful [sic]
And I am far, far away
And I am far, far, far away
And I am far away

And I'm dreaming a dream of a guy that is me
Who is sitting in the tree, dreaming
Do I like it?
Do I like it?
Man, I'm sick

(guitar solo)

Do I like it?
Do I like it?
Man, I'm sick

Up in the tree I am sitting
And I am far, far away
And I am far, far away
And I am far away


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Regarding the Fugs. I can recall a friend's older brother playing us Golden Filth (Live at the Fillmore East), and the next day there go a bunch of 10 year olds heading into Catholic school singing "Coca Cola Douche" and "Saran Wrap" with really no clue what the hell we were singing about.

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Fotheringay is one of my all-time favorites. I didn't select any Fairport because of the prohibition on PA material. But I support your right to break the rules -- it's so 1960s counterculture and all. Cool

Uhhh funny story.


Fairport Convention are classified as prog related band, and I've thought not to ban them (I only did it with Bowie and Led Zeppelin) just because I was hoping that someone would put one of their songs.
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Regarding the Fugs. I can recall a friend's older brother playing us Golden Filth (Live at the Fillmore East), and the next day there go a bunch of 10 year olds heading into Catholic school singing "Coca Cola Douche" and "Saran Wrap" with really no clue what the hell we were singing about.

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Fotheringay is one of my all-time favorites. I didn't select any Fairport because of the prohibition on PA material. But I support your right to break the rules -- it's so 1960s counterculture and all. Cool


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The wonderful H P Lovecraft's S/T Debut "The White Ship" 1967  

The Pretty Things from S F Sorrow "Balloon Burning" 1968  

and the US Ars Nova from their S/T Debut "Fields of People," 1968, The Move covered this one on "Shazam"  
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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

I feel like joining in once more after a period of abs(tin)ence:

My nominations are:

Velvet Underground (the inventors of Art Rock) - All Tomorrow's Parties (1967):
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Buffalo Springfield - Broken Arrow (1967)
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Sweeney's Men - Dreams for Me (1969)
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Fugs - CIA Man (1967, recorded 1965)
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Four very different but equally interesting songs.

I didn't know Dreams for Me: very good, especially the instrumental part in the ending.
The broken arrow is nice, but ok, All Tomorrow's Party is cutting edge, it's miles ahead of every other music of the era.

And the Fugs? Very interesting band, I know Cia Man, it's a really grungy and funny track. Speaking of the Fugs, and how Piero Scaruffi introduces them:

The Fugs are probably the greatest among the great rock bands that have been forgotten by succeeding generations. A case in point is Virgin Forest, the first collage piece in the history of popular music, one of music's most creative expressions, and almost totally unknown. The Fugs were also the first politicized group in the history of rock, also perhaps the greatest, the standard bearers of punk-rock. The sarcasm of their songs and the nonconformist mode in which they played them inspired Frank Zappa. Their free style compositions, although sometimes chaotic, anticipated progressive rock. Their specialty was the satire that reintroduced the political vaudeville of Brecht/Weill in the era of peace marches, sit-ins, and Bob Dylan. Few musicians were as original as the Fugs, at a time when the charts were dominated by the Beatles and the Monkees.

Anarchist, beatnik and bohemian, the Fugs represented "the other" America, the America that didn't watch the Ed Sullivan Show, didn't bother with the charts and didn't go crazy at the sight of the dandy pop star. The America that got drunk and took drugs, lived at the edge of the "American Dream", read libertarian libelous pamphlets and planned escapes from reality, the same folks that one day would be known as "punk."

The Fugs put to music the demystification of capitalism and the removal of social taboos. They attacked the 45, the charts, the image of the bourgeois singer, manufactured stars like Presley and the Beatles, entertainment marketing and the entire anomalous machine of musical consumerism. They hurled themselves against secular taboos to create an alternative music regulated by alternative codes. In short, they laid the foundations for the genesis of rock and alternative rock for the remainder of the century.

The Fugs were first to suggest the equivalence between agit-prop and rock. Rock music, which up until then had kept its distance from politics, took a decisive turn to the left.

The forest of sounds in Virgin Forest, a collage of breathtaking, primitive, wildly cacophonous music is the artistic testament of the Fugs. Its anarchical structure is one of the fundamental artistic conquests of the 60s.
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OK, I had "Broken Arrow" lined up, but had to resort to Plan BLOL.... Anyway, here's my picks for this round - two American/English songs, two Italian ones. Though I am more of a Seventies person, I have managed to find a few likely songs from the previous decade.

Let's start with the Italians, and a song penned by Guccini (which should make Christian happyWink), masterfully interpreted by a band that is still active after 57 years since its inception - I Nomadi:


Second pick (and likely to be my final nomination) is an absolutely iconic song by Mogol-Battisti, performed by one of Italy's foremost beat groups, Equipe 84:



And now to England, with this beautiful song (which I'm sure most of you already know) by Fairport Convention, who are in Prog Related:



And last but not least, one of my all-time favourite songs, in the original version by Crosby, Stills and Nash:



Later I'll post links to the English translations of the Italian songs for those who like to understand what people are singing aboutWink.

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I feel like joining in once more after a period of abs(tin)ence:

My nominations are:

Velvet Underground (the inventors of Art Rock) - All Tomorrow's Parties (1967):


Buffalo Springfield - Broken Arrow (1967)


Sweeney's Men - Dreams for Me (1969)


Fugs - CIA Man (1967, recorded 1965)
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^ I prefer the German equivalent: it's less pretentious... Smile

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

@Lewian: Are you my other Me? Delia Derbyshire is a wonderful suggestion! Clap

Haha, I was thinking "great minds think alike" (which has the less flattering German equivalent "zwei Idioten, ein Gedanke" Tongue) when I saw your suggestions, and thought I look a bit around before maybe commenting on this, and then you did it. Big smile
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@Lewian: Are you my other Me? Delia Derbyshire is a wonderful suggestion! Clap

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Although I was born in the revolutionary month of May of this decade, this is not really my preferred decade regarding music. Most that I know and/or have in my collection is on PA.
But, since Lorenzo strangely forgot to exclude It's a Beautiful Day from the famous proto-prog bands I am quickly putting up It's a Beautiful Day - Bulgaria (1969):


However, for this decade I am more into other territories than pop, rock or prog, so I'm going to bother you with a couple of "different" things, and my nomination will come from one of these.

First, one of the pioneers of musique concrète and electronic music, Pierre Henry with his Messe pour le temps présent. You all know Psyché Rock (yes really, you do... listen to it and you will say "oh yes, I've heard this before"), but from the same album I propose: Pierre Henry, Michel Colombier - Too Fortiche (1968):




More unknown, but not less important regarding influencing the electronic music experimentations of the 70s and beyond: Tom Dissevelt. The Philips company, via the Philips Research Laboratories, allowed a lot of experimentation in the domain of electronic and tape music. Tom Dissevelt and Dick Raaijmakers were the two main pioneers in this domain at that time: the 50s and 60s. I had the pleasure to work with the latter in the mid-90s on a video-musical-installation-performance project, but I will present here a work of his colleague who was more jazz-influenced: Tom Dissevelt - Intersection (aka Twilight Ozone - 1961):



So, now the bridge to jazz has been made, I can only add a track of another great of the great pioneers and great musician. I would have loved to put up Love Supreme here, but the first part is longer than 7 mins. So it will be from the album Stellar Regions: John Coltrane - Sun Star (1967):



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Well, the sixties... this is really not a strong side of my collection/taste. Pretty much all stuff I know and love is either listed on PA or very well known.
Maybe not this one... Wink

Still good topic; I'm here to learn...


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neat choice Lorenzo Beer

my theme within a theme...  there was music before '67

my favorites by year

1961 - kicking it off with a stone cold classic...



1962 - always loved this.. and man how I miss... I guess getting old sucks.. back in the day you actually had radio stations playing the classics.. not rinse repeats of the same 70's rock groups.. or.. as if that wasn't bad enough... the same songs from them..



1963- *Micky genuflects* A true legend taken far too early.. and oh so senselessly...



1964 - oh yeah.. one of my favorite singing in the shower songs..  



1965 - well said.. if not for the Beatles.. it would have been this group...



1966 - Flip a coin..  the soon to come SF scene.. or what was already going on in the Motor City.. which is my favorite..  but this one holds its own as my favorite (ie best haha) thing to come out of 60's Motown..

Papa Zita and Jamerson.. best rhythm section music has ever seen..
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I will concentrate on Danish music and post one track at the time. For some of them, they are almost sure to be blocked in Denmark on YouTube, so if anyone else can provide a YT link, I would be grateful. Here is my first nomination:

Steppeulvene - "Til Nashet" (To Nashet, 1967 lyric translation: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/til-nashet-nashet.html)


Steppeulvene (The steppenwolves) took their name from the novel by Hermann Hesse. They were formed in early 1967, so they actually predate Steppenwolf from the United States. The band consisted of:
Eik Skaløe (vocals, lyrics)
Stig Møller (guitar, music)
Søren Seirup (bass)
Preben Devantier (drums)

Steppeulvene was the first band to write own songs in Danish, and they are generally seen as the beginning of a Danish rock scene in its own right (before that, most bands just copied British and American music), even if Eik Skaløe's lyrics are more than a little Dylan influenced. Their first, and only, album, Hip (1967) is considered one of the best and most important Danish rock albums, and they inspired a lot of artists that came afterwards.

The style was psychedelic rock. They were not the best musicians in the world, but the feeling they created was unique. As you can probably guess from listening to the music and the lyrics, all kinds of drugs were involved, and sadly Eik Skaløe took the psychedelic ideas of the time a bit too literally. Later in the same year, he went to India, and in 1968 his dead body was found along with a suicide note near the border to Pakistan. He quickly became a cult figure, and he still has a mythologic status in Denmark. There's even an Eik Skaløe Square somewhere in Copenhagen.

Trivia: Today the Danish music critics have an annual award called "Årets steppeulv" (The steppenwolf of the year).

Note on the clip: This was the only one that worked in Denmark, and sadly it lacks stereo pan (the album was only released in stereo to my knowledge), but I believe you can find other clips with stereo sound.


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My two submissions are an Australian classic from 1969, and its sequel, also from 1969:
 
 
Russell Morris - The Real Thing
 

 
 
Russell Morris - Part 3 Into Paper Walls
 

 
 
 
The 45RPM vinyl single of "The Real Thing" was given to me by a friend of the family shortly after its release. Looking at the grooves of the record, it is evident that the song actually has two parts, even though there is no break in the music. Thus, "Paper Walls" really is the third part of "The Real Thing", though it is a separate song.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

So on principle you could enter with something by Procol Harum or The Moody Blues?

maybe not the obvious examples of what people call proto-prog. 

The Moody Blues and Procol Harum they are classified as prog crossover here in PA, so they are not allowed.

Cristi, even The Doors are not allowed, I excluded them along with the other famous Proto-prog bands.

yeah, I won't use the Doors, just wanted people to listen to this beautiful obscurity that was, story goes, rejected for The Soft Parade album. If you ask me it's better than most songs on that album. LOL


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

So on principle you could enter with something by Procol Harum or The Moody Blues?

maybe not the obvious examples of what people call proto-prog. 

The Moody Blues and Procol Harum they are classified as prog crossover here in PA, so they are not allowed.

Cristi, even The Doors are not allowed, I excluded them along with the other famous Proto-prog bands.
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

So on principle you could enter with something by Procol Harum or The Moody Blues?

maybe not the obvious examples of what people call proto-prog. 
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