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Tony Fisher
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 16:34 |
Premier League?
FAR better than that.
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!!!!!!
WORLD CUP WINNERS!!!!!!
THE BEST!!!!!!!!
(Am I getting my message across clearly????)
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RaphaelT
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 15:38 |
Definitely Premiership, they did marvellous things especially when both Bardens and Collins were in the band - the kind of joining electronics and acoustic wind instruments like VDGG did - and beatiful guitar of Andy and last but not least Richard Sinclair
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yet you still have time!
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robertplantowns
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 15:26 |
Premier league all the way. Camel is also one of the most consistent and prolific prog bands in the history of prog, almost all the albums are great and although they've evolved they still maintain their progginess. I would find it hard to argue the theory that the overall ratings of Camel albums as a whole are higher than any other prog band on this site except for maybe GG, who knows maybe one day I'll do the math.
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frippertronik
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 14:37 |
the first 4 camel albums (camel, mirage, the snow goose, moonmadness) are masterpieces of prog, and it is enough to say that camel is one of the most important bands of prog music.
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 08:47 |
Camel is a fine, innocent soft band. I used to think their music was ambiental prog for the elevator, the waiting room and supermarkets. Then I gave them a brake and put close attention to "Mirage". I discovered the same band with those childish and simplistic tones, but this time they turned out to be pleasant and entertaining. I really enjoyed every second of the album. I also discovered that when they try, they can make very interesting instrumentals. I wouldn´t place them at the same level as Crimson, YES, Genesis. Camel is some stairs under these.
However, it really doesn´t matter because they can make you have a great time with almost any of their albums. Very entertaining ¡¡
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magog
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 13:00 |
richardh wrote:
ELP are Arsenal (of course ) with Keith Emerson as Thierry Henry,Greg Lake as Sol Campbell and Carl Palmer as Patrick Viera.![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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It's not my fault but P.Vieira doesn't play in Arsenal anymore (unfortunately Juventus...)
Anyway, Camel:Champions League!
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DACE
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 11:40 |
Camel were one of the most fantastic prog bands ever!!! Well, let's explain this a bit... From "Camel" to "Breathless" (the Bardens period) they were one of the best, from then on, a very boring band, to be honest.
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magog
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 10:19 |
richardh wrote:
ELP are Arsenal (of course ) with Keith Emerson as Thierry Henry,Greg Lake as Sol Campbell and Carl Palmer as Patrick Viera.![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Unfortunately for you Vieira doesn't play in Arsenal anymore (Now he's in Juventus...)
Camel: Champions League
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 18:50 |
1st Division (my premier leage is only Yes, ELP, Genesis, King Crimson, Floyd, Tull)
They are 1st division along with GG (who could be first), VdGG, Caravan, Egg, Rush, Focus, Renaissance
NOT TOO SHABBY!
my top 5
- Mirage
- Moonmadness
- The Snow Goose
- I Can See Your House From Here
- Camel
truly excellent band
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memowakeman
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 17:48 |
Of course premier league!!
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Syzygy
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 17:33 |
A solid first division side, though they enjoyed a brief promotion circa Moonmadness, only to be relegated again circa I Can See Your House From Here.
The great thing about Camel (at least in the Bardens era) is that although they never recorded anything as memorable as CTTE, they also never overplayed their hand with a grand folly like TFTO. The Bardens era Camel albums are a good deal more consistent than many of their premier league contemporaries. Top notch craftsmanship rather than fine art, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Logos
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salmacis
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 12:15 |
Camel are undoubtedly 'premier league' for me- they can easily take their place amongst the greats, and I'm glad the majority agree with me. They are probably my third favourite band ever, after Genesis and Uriah Heep.
I love pretty much all of the albums they've done- even if 'Camel' is a bit tentative compared to what came later, and 'Breathless' and 'I Can See Your House...' are a little poppier than most prog albums. They have an ability to convey genuine atmosphere with their ethereal soundscapes.
My top 5:
1- Moonmadness
2- The Snow Goose
3- Mirage
4- Nude
5- I Can See Your House From Here
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chopper
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 07:58 |
richardh wrote:
OK I'll have a stab at this:
Premier League:- ELP,Crimson,Tull,Genesis,Yes,Floyd,Rush,Flower Kings,IQ,Spocks Beard,Eloy,Dream Theater, Marillion,Camel,UK,VDGG,Focus,Kayak, PFM,Par Lindh Project.
That's 20 bands by my reckoning.
ELP are Arsenal (of course ) with Keith Emerson as Thierry Henry,Greg Lake as Sol Campbell and Carl Palmer as Patrick Viera.![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Camel are more like an Everton or a Bolton.Not one of the elite but good enough to be Premier division all the same.
Hope I havn't taken this thread too literally![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
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Bad news - Arsenal have sold Viera!
I love Camel, but they're not quite in the same league as the Yes' and Genesis' of this word. I would agree they're more Bolton (not Everton so far this season).
Damn, I've only just realised this is a really old thread.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 07:03 |
CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Olympus
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 03:36 |
yes they are awsome premiers.
This is cool...
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Easy Livin
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 15:01 |
Hi Certif1ed,
A perfectly pausible explanation!![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
I have to confess I had a pop in one of my reviews at the number of times we are subjected to seeing that goal in 1966 (no not the one which didn't cross the line, the other one, you know, "they think..." and all that). I was comparing the number of times its (still) shown with the number of Rick Wakeman releases!
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DoomHammer
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 05:42 |
Hibou wrote:
The prog scene wouldn't be complete without CAMEL. They're at one end of the spectrum, way opposite the Canterbury league, but they're always winners in my books. I love them, adore them, drool over them ...
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Agree with that Camel are my arsenal-mans-united ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Hibou
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Posted: May 25 2004 at 00:01 |
The prog scene wouldn't be complete without CAMEL. They're at one end of the spectrum, way opposite the Canterbury league, but they're always winners in my books. I love them, adore them, drool over them ...
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Gene Police: You!! Out of the pool!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 24 2004 at 21:42 |
Don't worry Certifi1ed, I was just joking, even though my Mom was born on Glasgow she lives in Perú since she was 1 year old and I'm 100% Peruvian. Also concious of the level of football in Scottland.
Iván
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