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Atkingani
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 08:25 |
Confirmed list of the 32 national teams classified for the World Cup 2006:
Europe: Germany, England, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, The Netherlands, Sweden, Poland, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Ukraine, Croatia, Serbia-Montenegro. (14)
South America: Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Ecuador. (4)
North-Central America: USA, Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad-Tobago. (4)
Africa: Angola, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Tunisia. (5)
Asia: Japan, South Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia. (4)
Oceania: Australia. (1)
Notable absences: Greece (Euro-champion), Belgium, Turkey, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Uruguay, Colombia, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, South Africa, China.
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Drew
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 23:17 |
Logos wrote:
Drew wrote:
You mean Football is still popular? |
Football will always be popular, but you will never be.
Anyway.. Brazil. |
haha- so weak- hahaha
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 22:51 |
sleeper wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Germany joint favourite
They havent won a competative match against established tough competition in 5 years.
Im voting England (who else) as we proved a match for Argentina beating them 3-2 at the weekend (I promise not to glote).
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Say what you want about Germany ... but try and show me the last time they didn't make at least the last 8 of the World Cup ... I think it was 1950 ... even when these guys are lousy (remember their form before the last World Cup) ... they seem to come good ... with home advantage and a good draw (which seems to happen a lot!) ... who knows?
I think they'll be the biggest challengers to the true GODS of football ...
if you have to ask ... you either don't know your football history or you're in denial ...
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Germany havnt had true world class form since the '98 world cup, they got lucky in '02 as the hardes team they faced before Brazil was the USA, dosent really say that much about Germany does it.
I see Brazil are leading, suprise suprise, though my head says brazil and my heart says England
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To me, sleeper, it does say quite a bit about Germany ... they had a lucky draw last time, even in 1998, until Croatia spanked them, they were lucky ... in 1986, I remember they were lucky in the second round againt Morocco and the quarter-finals against Mexico (which they won on penalties) ...
in 1974, West Germany started off by losing to East Germany and ended up beating Holland's greatest-ever team in the finals, in 1954 they lost 8-3 to Hungary in the group stages, but fought back from 2-0 in the final to beat Hungary's greatest-ever team 3-2, in 1982, they started off losing to Algeria 3-2, had a highliy dubious 1-0 win against Austria, were dead and buried against France 3-1 a game which included Schumacher's foul of the century, and they still made it to the final ...
Granted most of those squads had better quality players than this current crop (Kahn and Ballack aside), but I still have this grudging acknowledgement of the resilience of the German football team ... a combination of home support, the good draw that usually comes with being hosts and mental strength makes them contenders in my book ... I'd be very surprised if they didn't make the last 4 ...
I dislike the German style intensely, but I always fear them ...
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 18:29 |
Although it's probably going to be Brazil or Germany taking the championship, I decided this year I am going to pull for France to win.
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Tony R
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 15:27 |
Brazil are not the force they were,I'd go out on a limb and say they will be lucky to progress further than the Q-Finals. My thoughts: Argentiina are very strong and Italy destroyed Holland recently.Do not discount the Germans on home turf,history suggests they will do well.England probably have as good a team as anybody on paper but they take too long to adapt tactically and Ericsson is not adventurous enough.
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Tony R
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 15:20 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Beckham is terribly overrated imo, he's got good freekicks and not much else. I still haven't figured out what Real Madrid was thinking when they expected him to take over Claude Makelele's role in their team. |
Have you actually watched any Real Madrid games recently?
Beckham is the best player week in week out.
Rather than free kicks he's the best crosser of the ball in the game and can still land a long pass on a sixpence.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 14:04 |
Trotsky wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Germany joint favourite
They havent won a competative match against established tough competition in 5 years.
Im voting England (who else) as we proved a match for Argentina beating them 3-2 at the weekend (I promise not to glote).
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Say what you want about Germany ... but try and show me the last time they didn't make at least the last 8 of the World Cup ... I think it was 1950 ... even when these guys are lousy (remember their form before the last World Cup) ... they seem to come good ... with home advantage and a good draw (which seems to happen a lot!) ... who knows?
I think they'll be the biggest challengers to the true GODS of football ...
if you have to ask ... you either don't know your football history or you're in denial ...
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Germany havnt had true world class form since the '98 world cup, they got lucky in '02 as the hardes team they faced before Brazil was the USA, dosent really say that much about Germany does it.
I see Brazil are leading, suprise suprise, though my head says brazil and my heart says England
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Phil
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 12:18 |
I'm daft enough to believe if I vote for England I'll ruin their chances, so I'll vote for Brazil and spoil theirs instead!
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Logos
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:31 |
Drew wrote:
You mean Football is still popular? |
Football will always be popular, but you will never be.
Anyway.. Brazil.
Edited by Logos
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ChadFromCanada
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:05 |
Germany. Hopefully.
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Drew
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 23:36 |
You mean Football is still popular?
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King of Loss
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 22:27 |
Germany will definitely win, especially in a VERY FRIENDLY home atmosphere.
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:10 |
sleeper wrote:
Germany joint favourite
They havent won a competative match against established tough competition in 5 years.
Im voting England (who else) as we proved a match for Argentina beating them 3-2 at the weekend (I promise not to glote).
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Say what you want about Germany ... but try and show me the last time they didn't make at least the last 8 of the World Cup ... I think it was 1950 ... even when these guys are lousy (remember their form before the last World Cup) ... they seem to come good ... with home advantage and a good draw (which seems to happen a lot!) ... who knows?
I think they'll be the biggest challengers to the true GODS of football ...
if you have to ask ... you either don't know your football history or you're in denial ...
Edited by Trotsky
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:51 |
Beckham is terribly overrated imo, he's got good freekicks and not much else. I still haven't figured out what Real Madrid was thinking when they expected him to take over Claude Makelele's role in their team.
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With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:24 |
I love English football, I always watch Match Of The Day, I have visited many English games in Machester, Liverpool and London but it's always the same with England: bad penalties, stupid red carts or simply bad luck, despite Lampard, Owen, Beckham, Rooney and Terry I'm afraid that England won't even reach the last four, it seems to be their destiny .... like Spain , same story!
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krusty
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:00 |
England..They've got to get it together sooner or later.
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 13:37 |
Greece is out.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 12:05 |
Does any one no if Greece have qualified for the World Cup or are we going to be without the european champions this time.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 12:03 |
Germany joint favourite
They havent won a competative match against established tough competition in 5 years.
Im voting England (who else) as we proved a match for Argentina beating them 3-2 at the weekend (I promise not to glote).
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memowakeman
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 10:45 |
I have to say...
Mexico
but to be honest... Brazil, Netherlands and Italy are like always the best teams
Germany mmm nope
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