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SteveG

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 09:45

Sorry chaps, but any mount without Pink Floyd would only be a molehill.

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 09:35

Guldbamsen wrote:

Including Gentle Giant is perhaps stretching things a bit. GG were never that important or successful back in the 70s yet with the internet they've become prog's equivalent to Nick Drake or Talk Talk; two acts that also 'conquered' the internet well after their active years.

Four heads representant of pork? Has to be Brits. Most prog fans I bump into do not think of Krautrock as prog (nor do I) and most other artists from outside of the UK were either influenced by the Brits or conversely didn't influence the genre in a manner that rivals the daddyos.

Four heads?

Emmo
Fripp
Gabriel
Wakie

Regarding your comment about Gentle Giant I actually disagree though because at one point they were as big as Genesis and even had an album that charted higher than they did(Free Hand placed higher on the charts than SEBTP). They also regularly filled concert halls within the 2-5,000 seat range(roughly the same as early Genesis also). No they probably weren't played on the radio much but neither were most prog bands aside from a few of the most well known(JT, PF, Yes, ELP especially). I can assure you they were the next band down after King Crimson in terms of influence and popularity then(and probably even now)so it's not some revisionist thing like you are implying. I see you are only 35 so you obviously weren't around at the time(neither was I but I have spent a lot of time researching this online and also have had discussions with people(on and offline) who are old enough and can assure you they were very important and big in prog circles back then). Also, maybe part of this depends on where you live. I'm referring to the US mostly. Apparently in the UK they were not as big so I can see why someone not from there might think that. Your statement could possibly apply to VDGG but imo not GG.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 21 2017 at 09:43

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 06:35

The big four are Yes, Genesis, ELP and KC. It might be the obvious pick, but it's entirely justified.

IF we are talking about individuals, I'd say Gabriel, Emerson, Hammill and Fripp. We can save some space for Wakeman as well.

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 05:57

Including Gentle Giant is perhaps stretching things a bit. GG were never that important or successful back in the 70s yet with the internet they've become prog's equivalent to Nick Drake or Talk Talk; two acts that also 'conquered' the internet well after their active years.

Four heads representant of pork? Has to be Brits. Most prog fans I bump into do not think of Krautrock as prog (nor do I) and most other artists from outside of the UK were either influenced by the Brits or conversely didn't influence the genre in a manner that rivals the daddyos.

Four heads?

Emmo
Fripp
Gabriel
Wakie

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 05:53

Instead of Mount Rushmore, why can't we just carve them all along the Rocky Mountains? That should be enough room for every artist on Prog Archives.

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 05:19

Peter Hammill, Robert Fripp, Frank Zappa and Mani Neumeier. There has to be a representative of Krautrock on the monument

I would actually do it the way Deep Purple did and add a 5th head: Christian Vander.

Edited by BaldFriede - December 21 2017 at 05:48

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Posted: December 21 2017 at 00:16

Every time I think of Mt. Rushmore, all I can see is Deep Purple In Rock

As to whom I’d like to see sculpted into a massive cliff-face -
Peter Hammill
Dave Stewart ( The Prog one, ha ha)
Mikael Åkerfeldt
Richard Sinclair
David Gilmour
Oh. Did I need to include a drummer ??

Edited by Tom Ozric - December 21 2017 at 00:18

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 23:01

Dellinger wrote:

OK, yeah, giving it more thought and reading more replies if we are talking about 4 bands to represent prog, it would have to be: Yes, Genesis, ELP, and King Crimson.

I agree, they've probably sold more records than the others (except for Pink Floyd perhaps).

If we truly want Mt. Rushmore, they should be faces, not bands:

-Rick Wakeman

-Robert Fripp

-Peter Gabriel

-Greg Lake (sorry, I'd say Emerson but we needed some balance)

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 20:53

OK, yeah, giving it more thought and reading more replies if we are talking about 4 bands to represent prog, it would have to be: Yes, Genesis, ELP, and King Crimson.

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 20:24

If we are talking individuals for me it might be Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Rick Wakeman and Steve Howe or maybe Peter Gabriel, Geddy Lee, Phil Collins(as drummer) and Robert Fripp. You could also substitute some of those with Carl Palmer, Neil Peart, Tony Banks and John Wetton.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 20 2017 at 20:24

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 18:41

Wakeman, Hammill, Fripp, and Ian Anderson.

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 18:29

The "Mount Rushmore of Prog" would include four trailblazing individuals, those four would be:
Keith Emerson
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Robert Fripp

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 18:13

mechanicalflattery wrote:

Van Der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, and Gentle Giant make up the proverbial Holy Trinity of prog. If it qualifies, then Tangerine Dream rounds out the group to four.

Agreed (especially GG)!

Other winning combinations could include:

Gentle Giant

Yes

Genesis

Yes

King Crimson

Genesis

VDGG

Genesis

Yes

I could go on and on...

Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - December 20 2017 at 18:15

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 17:49

There is so much great music out there, from the original/classic 70s era to contemporary times, it seems disrespectful or something to have to narrow it down to a list of only three. Saying this, no matter how many get onto the list, for sure there would be Soft Machine.

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 15:20

Tapfret wrote:

I feel like this should be heads only, not whole bands.

1. Zappa

2. Gabriel with his flower head costume

3. The Gentle Giant bald, bearded mascot (which in the right light also serves as Francesco Di Giacomo)

4. An unfinished, complex jumble of boulders wearing Robert Fripp's glasses

In that case, I think the most representative Mt. Rushmore of prog would probably have the Gentle Giant and Peter Gabriel in his flower hat, as you mentioned, and then I'd add:

The screaming face from the Court of the Crimson King album cover
The skull from the Brain Salad Surgery cover

And the mountain itself would have to be floating in mid-air, Roger Dean style. Preferably in and around the lake, coming out of the sky... perhaps standing there.

And there'd likely be a fox on the rock, too.

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 14:52

What it probably should be:

Yes, Genesis, King Crimson & Pink Floyd

(But I would probably put Rush in there personally)

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 11:22

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 11:03

Tapfret wrote:

I feel like this should be heads only, not whole bands.

1. Zappa

2. Gabriel with his flower head costume

3. The Gentle Giant bald, bearded mascot (which in the right light also serves as Francesco Di Giacomo)

4. An unfinished, complex jumble of boulders wearing Robert Fripp's glasses

That works for me for the heads, although I'd quite like to see a The Residents eyeball-head with top hat on the mount.

We've talked about heads, but what about tails?

Due to aesthetic considerations, I'd choose different "Prog" models for the less viewed backside of Mount Rushmore. Maybe a nod to Rush with the backside on Hemispheres, a nod to Yes with the backside from Going for the One, a nod to Guru Guru with the backside from Hinten, and Robert Wyatt's "rock bottom".

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 10:30

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For me it would be Yes, Rush, Genesis and Pink Floyd. Not just because those are among my favorites but because I feel they are the most important and successful.

I tried to edit this last night but gave up after the capcha gave me crap and wouldn't let me repost. Anyway,

what I wanted to say is that my fourth one(PF)could be interchangable with King Crimson. I like ELP also but not quite as much as the other two. I also like VDGG, Camel and GG but not as much as PF or KC also so KC would possibly be another one to complete the big four. I suppose it depends on my mood. If I'm going for more objective and less subjective as in who I think deserves it as far as influence and popularity among prog fans it would be KC for sure since they are more known(and accepted)as prog than PF. That being said if I was making a personal list I might rate Camel and VDGG higher than KC.

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Posted: December 20 2017 at 08:46

for the head - Anderson, Fripp, Gabriel, Waters

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