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Dean 
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 Posted: February 04 2009 at 13:49 |
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Dervisan, could you slow down a little - we need to catch-up and you are overloading us with information.
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 13:31 |
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the songs of "DIE KANAKEN" ;
 a side: 1)mein deutscher freund 2)beim kaffee 3)total geschlaucht 4)willkommen 5)es kamen menschen an b side: 6)schnüffler 7)orient-express 8)was sagst du 9)ayse, meral, semra 10)çok yorgunum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YPDfRBCrRM&feature=related (es kamen menschen an) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOPemfONM4s&feature=related (total geschlaucht) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ibErhjDS8 (çok yorgunum) ---------------- ENGLİSH LYRICS OF "ÇOK YORGUNUM" (i am very tired) lyrics:Nazım Hikmet music:Cem Karaca (i am sorry about my english master *Nazım Hikmet  ) *he is the biggest poet of Turkey NAZIM HİKMET i am very tired, dont wait me captain another person should write the ship's log harbour that have got plane and have got canopy, that have got blue colour you cant abate me to this harbour you cant abate me to this harbour harbour that have got plane and have got canopy, that have got blue colour you cant abate me to this harbour you cant abate me to this harbour i am very tired, dont wait me captain ------------------------------ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-3lT3yHdO4 (Beim Kaffee) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzP9vxasGMk&feature=related (willkommen) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcvrmIIAlzg&feature=related (was sagst du) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkxMV0gKWGY&feature=related (mein deutscher freund) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck-8EP0xr8E&feature=related (orient-express) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPNQ7FpE_vI&feature=related (schnüffler) he could make the best in this situation i think...  Edited by Dervisan - February 06 2009 at 19:24 |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 13:01 |
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After Cem Karaca-Edirdahan's LP ; "Safinaz", Turkey has lived a military coup in 1980 ... and the mass arrests and the turtures to political people in everywhere... it was terrible stratocracy days in turkey... when turkey was lived this military coup Cem Karaca was in Germany, he has heard the terrible news from Turkey, he has heard his friends were seem physical torture and the stratocracy want Cem Karaca because of his "1 Mayıs/Durduramayacaklar halkın coşkun akan selini" 45rpm which is made by Cem Karaca-Dervisan... but he has rejected to come back to Turkey.. because he knew that he saw torture because of his politikal situation...and he was denaturalized by the stratocracy (by soldiers dicta)
This was the begining of his banishment days... think, he couldnt come to his father's funeral ceremonies but he couldnt be without music... he has started to work in Germany.. he hadnt got money but he had to continue to music... the musicians of Turkish progressive all livingunder pressure or went another countries so he couldnt find any friends...only ugur dikmen was with him (from Dervisan) but he has done a wonderful album even if he was alone and he hadnt got any band ; "HASRET" (1980)   HASRET means ; miss something in turkish and he started to miss his country, Turkey...so he has told his missing all of this album... i cant talk about this album progressive or something else.. he couldnt make progressive because his all band members werent with him... but even if we cant talk about progressive or rock , it was really wonderful album... there were 12 new songs in this album ; 1) Hasret 2)Giden 3)Hoş Geldin Kadınım 4)Kız Çocuğu 5)Herkez Gibisin 6)Yağma Sofrası 7)Alamanya 8)Akşam erken iner mapusaneye 9)Barış dikeni 10)İster Frengistanda İster içerde 11)Kara Bahtım 12)Bu biçim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwHisB9pPuE (Bu Biçim) i can find only this song s link ..but its enough to understand this albums sound.. after this he has made a new album ; "Bekle Beni" (1982) He hadnt got any band so it had good songs but we cant talk about progressive or pure rock... because he tell his missing to Turkey all... so it s name is "WAIT ME" .. so he said "wait me i will come back turkey"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpUwKUGL4gs (bekle beni) but he saw that he had to establish a new band and he establish band from turkish and german musicians to make his new german language album ; "Die Kanaken" (1984) it was really wonderful album in these terrible days...  Edited by Dervisan - February 04 2009 at 13:16 |
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Logan
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Posted: February 04 2009 at 11:16 |
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Ivan, did you follow-up by mentioning the bands in the proposed/ potential category team threads? That's the usual way, I've found, when rejecting a band for one's category and suggesting for another category. Though in this case if it was considered best for Prog Related, they operate in a different manner. Of course, I recognise that you were already putting a huge amount of time into it, so it would have been nice to have other teams take an interest in your work without much prodding. Interesting that Avant/ RIO was suggested mostly due to the lyrics (I know that RIO had a Marxist bent, but....)
Anyway, it seems that it's either a Crossover or Prog Related one. I'll mention it to Crossover. |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 10:42 |
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because of that i try to tell them ...
it s only a beginning... turkish progressive and pschedelic is a big sea and so hard to tell suddenly... like this; it s only the beginning song of "2023" album ..think the others  Edited by Dervisan - February 04 2009 at 18:30 |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: February 04 2009 at 10:09 |
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^ Great!
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 09:28 |
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but before Barış Manço's biography i want to give a youtube link.. maybe they want to know the sound of his music...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqz00rVC9FE&feature=PlayList&p=C9D216558DE259B7&playnext=1&index=7 (2023) this song is the begining song of "2023" album... ok lets continue to cem karaca... |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 04 2009 at 09:23 |
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That's a problem that we anticipated.
On May 20, 2007, the Symphonic Team added all the bands in the master list were marked as Symphonic, Cem Karaca was in the Master List as Symphonic, even though it was clear for us they were not part of the sub-genre, we made the research, posted it and recommended them at least for Prog Related.
But as always, this work was forgotten and never followed:
But as we guessed it was omited, nobody checked the list and most of the 12 bands already researched by us and posted in the list (Except the couple of Symphonic ones) hasn't been added.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - February 04 2009 at 09:30 |
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Bilek
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VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 09:04 |
Let's see ... nope  well, to be honest, I thought Dervisan and I were the only ones interested in the thread, so I took the liberty to write in our native language  ... something which I could've done in PM anyway.so, since it's apparent that at least one more person is involved, here's a synopsis (Dervisan gave extensive replies to what I wrote, so it will be apparent) I first objected to the idea that Sevdan Beni being "the greatest" Turkish prog song. I don't disagree with its awesomeness, but there are other Turkish masterpieces in the same league (mentioned in bold in original post; Erkin Koray's Mesafeler, Türkü, Baris Mancho's 2023, 2024, and 2025 (all released as seperate tracks in subsequent albums, forming an instrumental trilogy) Gönül Dağı (also from Baris) as well as Safinaz itself, from the same artist subject of this thread. Not to mention Mogollar (Les Mogol), Edip Akbayram and Üç HürEl (3 Hürel), who made absolutely progressive music, at least from early to late seventies (let's say up to '77).I can't distinguish among any of them. All are great per se. I also objected to "progressiveness" (not "greatness"!) of "Tamirci ciragi" mentioned above. I agree, it's a great track, emotionally, musically, and instrumentally, but absolutely not "prog" according to our definition! In album basis, I praised Dervisan for giving credit to Erkin Koray's Elektronik Türküler and Mancho's 2023 & Yeni Bir Gün. But I do believe "the most progressive" band in Turkey happens to be Kurtalan Ekspres (Baris Mancho's backing band), at least for their '70's & early '80's stuff. This is mostly due to Mancho's genius as a multi-instrumentalist and arranger, as well as his uncanny ability to pick up young talents, who fit his musical style like a glove... Again, I need to remind, I'm talking in technical terms here... It is totally arguable and arbitrary whether this band or that band is "the best". But in terms of defining prog, Mancho and his men made the most fitting music (although it was Cem Karaca who composed and recorded Safinaz, which is probably Turkey's sole prog-rock epic, stretching into one LP side! Baris Manco himself and strangely, another pop artist Alpay made multipart suites, but these do not exceed 12 minutes in length) Aside from Baris's technical excellence, there are several factors which bring Cem Karaca to the fore. It's totally a matter of personal opinion to decide which one is better. Dervisan, I appreciate your idea to write a Baris Mancho promotion  . You can be sure I'll give you a helping hand on that one . |
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 08:14 |
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we have always discussed with friends that "Tamirci Çırağı" progressive song or not... i think it s really Arabesque song (with a lot of pain) with its lyrics but it s progressive or not, the Dervisan band is really wonderful in this song... like the others... so you are false about that i think...
we cant separate them because all members have always helped other bands when they made new album.. for example ; Murat Töz has played in "2023" (with Kurtalan Ekspresi) and "Yoksulluk Kader Olamaz" (with Dervisan) - he should be the government artist because of this  - or Fehiman Ugurdemir (feho muz ) played guitar with Dadaşlar and Edirdahan... Taner Öngür has worked with Moğollar and Dervisan...........ext...ext so all members were working in a lot of master bands..like this; you know the guitar solo in "Dönence" (barış manço) you know that this guitar solo was made by Bahadır Akkuzu ... but he didnt (or he couldnt ) .. this solo was made and played by ; FEHİMAN UGURDEMİR... i will start to BARIŞ MANÇO biyography after Cem Karaca ... Edited by Dervisan - February 04 2009 at 08:32 |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 07:46 |
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i have told about (Barış Manço' "2023", "Yeni Bir Gün" and Erkin Koray's "Elektronik Türküler") when i have told Cem Karaca's "Yoksulluk Kader Olamaz" .. i cant forget these masterworks when i talk about "Yoksulluk Kader olamaz" but if i have to put them in ranking, absolutely i put this album first place.. but it s not mean they are bad...they are wonderful too..maybe more than a lot of bands(or albums) that this web page promote so we try to remove this grievance ...
Erkin Koray's "Mesafeler" is not same category with "Sevdan Beni" ... absolutely "Mesafeler" is the best pschedelic song of Turkey... but best progressive song is "Sevdan Beni" (i will upload the concert record soon to youtube so everyone can listen) .. it s my mind absolutely... but i can say it again that i can never forget "Baykoca destanı" (in 2023 - Barış Manço) "merhaba dünya- elveda ölüm" (in Yeni Bir Gün - Barış Manço) "Türkü" (Elektronik Türküler - Erkin Koray)...      Edited by Dervisan - February 04 2009 at 15:00 |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 07:15 |
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thanx bilek; i have forgot to talk about alex wiska... becuase i didnt talk about the members of any bands.. but it is true we have to talk about him becuase he was the musician that didnt know anything about turkish prog folk and he was a German street musician before Kardaşlar.. Cem Karaca have met with him in a street, saw his abiliti and bring him to turkey suddenly to his band Kardaşlar... it was really strange that act really.. but Cem Karaca didnt think false because he was really succesful in Kardaşlar...
yes it s true that we have to talk about a song that Alex Wiska's in Cem Karaca- Kardaşlar ; "Kalender" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCyeAuDEquw (Kalender) after he has gone back to Germany he has continued to make progressive songs with anatolian instruments and melodies.. because he has really like this tradational sea... because anatolian tradational life is really feed with a big deep history... it s not about religion or nation or somethingelse... it s only the mind that is different than arabics or kurdishs or some other nations in middle east... everyone know that turkey is arabic.. it s really false , a dengerous false... turkish culture is really deep,friendly and honest than their culture...yes we have got some signs of arabic or grek or medeterrian or pers but really different from them .... maybe bilek can tell this with his wonderful english .. its really hard to tell... (bilek; bi anlat yav pir sultanı,şeyh bedrettini,kazak abdalı,mevlanayı,yunus emreyi,şair kanuni sultanı ; arap zannediyolar bizi sinir oluyorum ya.. ) |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 03:48 |
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^ could you repeat that in English please Bilek? |
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Bilek
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 03:24 |
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Sevdan Beni'nin harika bir parça olduğunu tartışmam; ama "en iyi" mi dersen, orada durup beklerim işte
. Erkin'in Mesafeler'i var, Türkü'sü var; Barış'ın 2023'ü, 2024'ü, hatta 2025'i var, aha da bir Gönül Dağı var ; daha da aha yukarıda koca bi Safinaz var Moğollar'ı ve '70'lerin ilk yarısında (77'ye kadar diyelim) frıtına gibi parçalar yapan Edip Akbayram'ı da unutmayalım. Hatta zorlasam Sevenler Ağlarmış'ı (Haluk Levent'in sçıp sıvadığını değil, orijinal versiyonu ) bie bu listeye koyabilirim... Bence "en iyi" demek bizi aşar. hepsi ayrı güzel ...(bu arada Tamirci Çırağı iyi şarkı olmakla birlikte, progressive mrogressive değildir bana göre... İhtarname, Parka, hatta Nem Kaldı bile çok daha progressive bence...) iyi bari, albüm bazında Elektronik Türküler'le 2023'ün ve Yeni Bir Gün'ün hakkını vermişsin gerçi ben Nedir Ne Değildir'i de eklerdim... Ama en iyi progressive grup deyince, Dervişan'a saygımız sonsuz olmakla birlikte, Kurtalan'ı tek geçerim... Bunun sırrı da, elemanlarının müzik yeteneklerinden çok Barış'ın multi-enstrümentalist ve düzenleme dehası olması, daha da önemlisi kendi tarzına uygun yetenekleri sağdan-soldan cımbızla çekip bir araya getiren müthiş bir yeteneğinin olması! Yani şunu demek istiyorum; progressive'lik büyük ölçüde "teknik"e bağlı bir olay olduğundan, Barış'ın '70'li yılları (yani Kurtalan'ın altın çağı) bu konuda her zaman önde olmuş... tabi bu "daha iyi" oldukları anlamına gelmiyor; Cem Karaca'yı da öne çıkaran başka faktörler var, hangisinin daha iyi olduğu kişiden kişiye değişir... |
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Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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Bilek
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VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
Posted: February 04 2009 at 03:10 |
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A side note for those who may be concerned: Cem Karaca's second band Kardaslar included the multi instrumentalist (guitar, saz, iklig*) Alexander Wiska, who is somewhat well-known in Krautrock circles by his Alex Oriental Experience band! (at least the first two records of this band relied heavily on Turkish culture, also with a helping hand from Can members Holger Czukay, JakiLiebezeit & Michael Karoli!) In fact, a later compilation of Alex Oriental Experience includes Cem Karaca's first single with Kardaslar: "Dadaloglu / Kalender". Alex plays the heck out of Iklig in this record!
* (iklig is a Turkish traditional bowed instrument, much smaller than a violin, with 3 strings [if I'm not mistaken]. Another Turkish Psych-Ethnic Rock band Mogollar made great use of this instrument in their groundbreaking 1971 album "Danses et Rythmes de la Turquie-d'Hier d'Aujourd'hui" [renamed in Turkey as "Anadolu Pop"], including an eponymous track, in which the instrument made a prominent appearance...) P.S. in Turkish ortography, the letter "C" is always pronounced as "J", or soft "G". So, Cem Karaca should be read somewhat like "Gem Kah-rah-jah" |
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 02 2009 at 20:28 |
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SAFİNAZ ( CEM KARACA -EDİRDAHAN) 1979 1.Safinaz http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/h4svR_C8/cem_karacaedirdahan_safinazmp3/ 2.Karam http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/5b3cMmZU/cem_karacaedirdahan_karammp3/ 3.Şeyh Bedrettin Destanı http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/9aGctWKI/cem_karacaedirdahan_eyh_bedrettin_destanmp3/ to be continued... Edited by Dervisan - February 16 2009 at 17:27 |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 02 2009 at 20:19 |
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Turkey political situation have gone really terrible... the people killed eachother because of their political minds in everywhere ... and Cem Karaca Dervisan have started to hav more heavy political argue... and after this wonderful LP they have made a new 45 rpm called : "Mor Perşembe" and "Bir Mirasyediye Ağıt"
these songs were done for "yoksulluk kader olamaz" LP but 10 song could be more for a one album so they were published after this LP.. so they are wonderful 2 songs too... exactly i love "bir mirasyediye ağıt"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4PmEQdYpQ (Bir Mirasyediye Ağıt) i couldnt find any link about "Mor perşembe" :( :( İ am fixing my webpage.. when i finish it you can listen all online... only give me some time... not only Cem Karaca.. you will see the others too the last 45rpm of Dervisan is really so heavy politikal songs and i think they didnt think music in these 45 rpm and Cem Karaca said that "we have done this 45 rpm not like a musician we have done it like a fight men"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEptwH_PWWA (1 Mayıs) {march of 1 May} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRkDA3crZD0 (Durduramayacaklar halkın coskun akan selini) {thay cant stopped the calamity of public so cem karaca will go out of the country because of this 45 rpm after 1980 military coup and he could back here a long time later... After this album Dervisan was demolished because of their heavy political argue they meet with some death threats... and they thought it was the best that to stopped it..... But Cem Karaca didnt be empty and establish a new band called ; EDİRDAHAN and have made an album with this band ; "safinaz"  Edited by Dervisan - February 02 2009 at 20:30 |
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Dervisan
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Posted: February 02 2009 at 19:49 |
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"YOKSULLUK KADER OLAMAZ" LP include new songs all ..wonderful new songs... AND BELEİVE ME THİS ALBUM İS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUM İN PROGRESSİVE ROCK HİSTORY TOO...
1.Kerem Gibi (i couldnt find any link) :( 2.Bir Ögretmene Ağıt (i couldnt find any link) 3.Adiloş Bebe 4.İşçi Marşı (i couldnt find any link) :(((( 5.Maden Ocağının Dibinde 6.Sevdan beni 7.Vay Kurban (i couldnt find any link) 8.Yoksulluk Kader Olamaz (i couldnt find any link) but i have upload the best progressive song of turkey and so you can listen it it s; "SEVDAN BENİ" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcL4XFy1Or8 (SEVDAN BENİ) it is a poem of Ahmed Arif who is a most famous political and modern poet of Turkey... this song is the best progressive song of turkey's musical history (i think like that) i cant say anymore... only listen please... .............silence  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNjohQICps (maden ocağının dibinde) it s the another song from this LP but record is really bad in this link... i will upload it later again myself... or i will upload all this album... because you have to listen them... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ApY4otxCq8&feature=PlayList&p=1FADA1F57B35850F&playnext=1&index=15 (Adiloş Bebe) it s another wonderful song from this album... it s a poem from Ahmed Arif too... so listen i will upload other songs soon.. ok??  Edited by Dervisan - February 02 2009 at 20:39 |
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Dervisan
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Posted: February 02 2009 at 17:56 |
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after this 45 rpm Cem Karaca - Dervisan began to make songs with more political and more progressive... and they have published "NEM KALDI" LP ... in this new LP there was a 2 new songs (others are old records)
1.Nem Kaldı 2.Unutamadığım at first i have to tell "unutamadığım" it is the second best progressive song of Cem Karaca Dervisan (you will see the best later) this is a poem of a turkish modern poet Ahmet Arif... and sorry but this song was wonderful than a lot of song in your progarscives list...let s listen ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3gMQ_MmPx8 (UNUTAMADIĞIM) the record is terrible in this link ... and there is no link about this song :( "nem kaldı" was a tradational song from Aşık Mahsuni Şerif and Dervisan make it really good prog song.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5To6zBpDg (nem kaldı) song is deficient in this lin :( there is no more link... ok what ever ...  cem karaca - hüseyin sultanoğlu after this LP they published a new LP named ; "beni siz delirttiniz" "niyazi" i wish to show you "niyazi" but i cant now because there is no link about it... and the third bomb ; "PARKA" LP was published in 1977 ... there was 2 new songs in this LP 1.PARKA 2.KAVGA "PARKA" was one of the best progressive rock song of the Cem Karaca-Dervisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-V5z_bxC8 (PARKA) this song has told about a university student that was shotted 3 times with his parka because of his political minds... all band members have played their instrument wonderful and they made really wonderful progressive song....it s same for the second new song ; "KAVGA"(fight) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsTp_-7Z4M (KAVGA) (fight) means fight with fashists these song are sign that they have started to use very heavy political argue because in these days there are a inside war against socialist and fashists... and Cem Karaca-Dervisan was select its side... After this LP they have published the best progressive rock album of turkey ( with barıs manco's "2023" and "yeni bir gün" ; Erkin koray s "Electronik türküler") YOKSULLUK KADER OLAMAZ (the poorness can not be a destiny) ..."YOKSULLUK KADER OLAMAZ" is the best rock and progressive album i have ever listened...  Edited by Dervisan - February 22 2009 at 14:24 |
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Dervisan
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Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: February 02 2009 at 16:23 |
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after Cem Karaca-Moğollar band, he has tried to establish a progressive band so he has establish DERVİSAN which is the best progressive band of Turkey (already the best rock band)
this band's member were really master of their instrument.. i want to tell you 3 musicians that i love from this band; Ugur dikmen (keyboard) ; he was played in "assia minor mission" in norway and he has really graduate in scandinavia progressive.. and he has got really wonderful ability and i think he was better than a lot of keyboards that you know(for example ; emerson, i have got a lot of concert record so listen and see) Oğuz Durukan (BASS) ; he was played in "assia minor mission" in norway and he has really graduate in scandinavia progressive.. Hüseyin Sultanoğlu (drum) ; he is my rock ikon... he has played in BUNALIMLAR which is the god of turkish psychedelic... he has the best drummer i have ever seen... and best rocker too...  in earlier Cem Karaca - DERVİSAN , there is a song that was played with KARDAŞLAR period.. "BEYAZ ATLI" it was the new prog version of this song... (there isnt any link about beyaz atlı, i will upload it to you tube soon) but the other song of 45 rpm' is "yiğitler" "Yiğitler" is a tradational song and i think it was the worst song of Dervisan but Hüseyin Sultanoğlu(drummer) is wonderful in this song.. i listen it only for it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzz_7vIG-R4 (Yiğitler) it was the earlier Cem Karaca - Dervisan after this 45 rpm the biggest bomb of turkish rock music was explode ; "TAMİRCİ ÇIRAĞI" (apprentice of repairman) it has droped like a bomb on turkey and it was really wonderful progressive masterwork and this was the only begining... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGpYYyGOkI (Tamirci çırağı) ----------- ENGLİSH LYRİCS OF "TAMİRCİ ÇIRAĞI" (apprentice of repairman) -its really hard but i will try- a fire has dropped in my heart expectation is the bread of my heard, wish and wish her hands are white,beautiful,nail polished where can he hide his colluses of his palm? she has come to repaired her car to our maintenance hall (repair shop) i have shotted and falled in love when i saw her the long skirts on her legs and curly hairs my adept have called me "son, bring the set of tools" i have read a subject like this in a novel it was crystalline and expensive novel book how can it i dont know but the girl love the boy in a same situation, to the apprentice of repairman i said my adept "let me, i wont dress my overalls" i have draged my hairs in non smooth mirror she will come to take her car back to make real this dream in novel maybe the time was stopped the world was stopped she was comming in from the door i have standed in bewilderment that i cant separate my eyes i have opened the door, i have opened she can come in her eyebrows were rise up and asked ; "WHO IS THIS VARGANT" she has gone away with her car, i have stifle in her cars exhaust gas the tear drops on my eyes, i have rise up slowly my adept have come and hit my back friendly and said ; "YOU ARE A WORKER, BE A WORKER, DRESS YOUR OVERALLS" "YOU ARE A WORKER, BE A WORKER, DRESS YOUR OVERALLS" "YOU ARE A WORKER, BE A WORKER, DRESS YOUR OVERALLS" --------------------- dont forget to listen this song when read the lyrics.. (video was from a movie "AĞIR ROMAN" i love this movie too ) After this song the turkish people are still feels like silly when they listen it because it s done everyday... the other song of this 45 rpm is "nerdesin" it was an anatolian folk rock song ( i couldnt find a link about it) and it s not important beside "tamirci çırağı"  ugur dikmen - hüseyin sultanoğlu - cem karaca - oğuz durukan Edited by Dervisan - February 15 2009 at 18:42 |
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Turkish (Anatolian) Progressive Psychedelic Ethnical Rock
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Cem Karaca (Turkish progressive master)
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Ivan_Melgar_M on May 20, 2007 wrote: