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SilverSean
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Posted: January 26 2008 at 16:31 |
amerikraut wrote:
symphony-x : sytematic chaos
Vocals just rub me the wrong way. |
Systematic Chaos is a Dream Theater album.
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Hold on to the Dream...
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Chicapah
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Posted: January 26 2008 at 10:35 |
My all time disappointment would have to be ELP's "Works, pt. 1" fiasco. More recently it would be IQ's "Dark Matter." I bought it based on favorable reviews on this site but even after about 10 listens I still couldn't find a single thing I liked about it. It just left me cold and it now sits at the bottom of my CD stack. I may end up giving it to my son but I don't think he'd like it, either.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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amerikraut
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 22:02 |
symphony-x : sytematic chaos
Vocals just rub me the wrong way.
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"R.I.P. Pride Fighting"
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A B Negative
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Joined: May 02 2006
Location: Methil Republic
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 15:02 |
EnglishAssassin wrote:
Plus Purple featured a hammond organ player with a magnificent 'tache, which should merit prog points by anybody's criteria.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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SilverSean
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 13:13 |
If DragonForce is progressive, then "Sonic Firestorm." Incredibly boring and repetitive songs with meaningless lyrics.
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Raff
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:41 |
I am a woman  .... And I suppose you'll learn quite a lot about me as you keep visiting the forum!
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Real Paradox
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Location: Lisbon
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:07 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
You're welcome. And welcome to the site. Deep Purple definitely have made some very good music throughout their history. And I agree that some of it is quite proggy. I am sure that as you visit the site you will see various opinions regarding their level of progginess as well as regarding their inclusion here on the Prog Archives. |
Deep Purple's first four albums are not less progressive than many others released by 'officially' prog bands. Their following albums, at least up to Burn, contain a lot of prog elements as well. However, they bear the tag of a hard rock band, and that is enough for many people to obliterate any progressive aspects in their music.
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I agree man. Same happens with Led Zeppelin, come on...don't tell me that "No Quarter" isn't unleast influenced by Progressive music...
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Raff
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 04:30 |
rushfan4 wrote:
You're welcome. And welcome to the site. Deep Purple definitely have made some very good music throughout their history. And I agree that some of it is quite proggy. I am sure that as you visit the site you will see various opinions regarding their level of progginess as well as regarding their inclusion here on the Prog Archives. |
Deep Purple's first four albums are not less progressive than many others released by 'officially' prog bands. Their following albums, at least up to Burn, contain a lot of prog elements as well. However, they bear the tag of a hard rock band, and that is enough for many people to obliterate any progressive aspects in their music.
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Pinkk
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Joined: January 21 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 04:16 |
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play
Definitely a disappointment compared to the godly Thick As A Brick.
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 03:07 |
For me "Rock Puzzle" by Atoll. I think when discovering prog I was happy discovering one gem after another. I don't think I checked out a review before I listened to it, which was not my usual procedure. This one was an eighties prog album, which bears a risk in itself  . I just tried it and it was just not my kind of album.
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EnglishAssassin
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 18:43 |
As an historical aside (and definitely not an attempt get either band recategorised) both Purple and Sabbath received the "progressive" appellation back in the seventies, and both were placed on "progressive" imprints (respectively Harvest and Vertigo) by their record companies. Plus Purple featured a hammond organ player with a magnificent 'tache, which should merit prog points by anybody's criteria.
I suspect what keeps both of them in the prog-related category is that, whilst both were progressive in their own ways, they are more closely identified with hard rock and heavy metal than with prog rock. Which is quite fair enough.
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 17:39 |
rushfan4 wrote:
You're welcome. And welcome to the site. Deep Purple definitely have made some very good music throughout their history. And I agree that some of it is quite proggy. I am sure that as you visit the site you will see various opinions regarding their level of progginess as well as regarding their inclusion here on the Prog Archives. |
Ok I actually found out were to speak about them...Rush is cooool dude! 
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rushfan4
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 17:02 |
You're welcome. And welcome to the site. Deep Purple definitely have made some very good music throughout their history. And I agree that some of it is quite proggy. I am sure that as you visit the site you will see various opinions regarding their level of progginess as well as regarding their inclusion here on the Prog Archives.
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:55 |
rushfan4 wrote:
[Deep Purple is not progressive rock. However, they have been deemed by the site owner and the collaborator teams to be proto-prog. Others would have a better explanation, but in a nutshell this means that although not progressive per se, some of their earlier work was highly influenced by or influenced progressive rock. |
Well thank you bro   .
The thing that got me  , was beacause Deep Purple is one of the first bands I knew..so I listen to them quite often...and it seemed kinda "progish" to me, but now i'm more awere.
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rushfan4
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:48 |
Real Paradox wrote:
Good Point there, 80's comeback's are total wacks
EnglishAssassin wrote:
Oh yes, there have been a few albums I've regretted buying:
Yes - 90125 King Crimson - Discipline Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers Jethro Tull - Under Wraps
Spot the theme there? It's astonishing how long it took me do so.
The actual prize for the all time worst prog (or at least prog-related) album I've ever bought, however, can only go to...
Black Sabbath - Born Again
It took this to make me realize that when bands who'd split up in the seventies got back together in the eighties, the result would inevitably be an album full of total cack.
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I have a question?Is Deep Purple progressive rock?  |
Deep Purple is not progressive rock. However, they have been deemed by the site owner and the collaborator teams to be proto-prog. Others would have a better explanation, but in a nutshell this means that although not progressive per se, some of their earlier work was highly influenced by or influenced progressive rock.
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:43 |
Good Point there, 80's comeback's are total wacks
EnglishAssassin wrote:
Oh yes, there have been a few albums I've regretted buying:
Yes - 90125 King Crimson - Discipline Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers Jethro Tull - Under Wraps
Spot the theme there? It's astonishing how long it took me do so.
The actual prize for the all time worst prog (or at least prog-related) album I've ever bought, however, can only go to...
Black Sabbath - Born Again
It took this to make me realize that when bands who'd split up in the seventies got back together in the eighties, the result would inevitably be an album full of total cack.
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I have a question?Is Deep Purple progressive rock? 
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EnglishAssassin
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Joined: December 24 2007
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:26 |
Oh yes, there have been a few albums I've regretted buying:
Yes - 90125 King Crimson - Discipline Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers Jethro Tull - Under Wraps
Spot the theme there? It's astonishing how long it took me do so.
The actual prize for the all time worst prog (or at least prog-related) album I've ever bought, however, can only go to...
Black Sabbath - Born Again
It took this to make me realize that when bands who'd split up in the seventies got back together in the eighties, the result would inevitably be an album full of total cack.
Edited by EnglishAssassin - January 21 2008 at 16:28
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Real Paradox
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Joined: January 20 2008
Location: Lisbon
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:55 |
cynthiasmallet wrote:
Tool-Lateralus
So much hype for something so bland. |
True,true...Tool (unleast when it comes too albums) its kind of a harsh band too, you know...
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cynthiasmallet
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:15 |
Tool-Lateralus
So much hype for something so bland.
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Would you like to watch TV, or get between the sheets, or contemplate the silent freeway, would you like something to eat?
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Real Paradox
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Joined: January 20 2008
Location: Lisbon
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 14:29 |
I don't know if you guys agree but...I think Crime of the Century is by far the worst LIE...it does not make it prog ,its just classic rock/pop, I have to agree with The Ace Face here....synths and wierd sounds does not define prog...prog does not have rules ,its a different level of compostional skills mixed up with a great sence of experimental sounds...and Supertramp's "Crime of the Century" is just a nice exemple of weak sound management in terms of synths, if you wanna make a pop album it would be pretty good to have stupid little synths...but it would not fit in prog style...
Edited by Real Paradox - January 21 2008 at 14:29
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