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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:06
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I also don't like it when bands become overly political ... but statements like "just play the music and shutup" are not ok either. Ever heard of a concept called "Freedom of Speech"?

And about the fingerprints: "which you must do in order to enter of course". Well, I guess the department of homeland security has done its job very well ... when it was created many people of my country compared it to the "Propagandaministerium". If they managed to convince you that fundamental principles of justice (like that someone is innocent until proven guilty) don't apply to foreign visitors, then I guess that Michael Moore had a point after all.

And your last statement ... well, maybe you'd like to live in a society like the one described in "1984" ... where only apolitical music is allowed, everybody's fingerprints are recorded etc. ... I do not.

BTW: I do agree though that PoS are not very good at political or socially critical songs - to me songs like Dea Pecuniae seem quite pretentious ... bland and childish. But if that's what they want to do (be), then I'll accept it - and listen to something else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:00


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2006 at 01:11
Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

With names like Idiocracy and America, my guess is that POS has joined the Bush-hating that a lot of bands, prog and otherwise, put into their lyrics these days (not saying that's a bad thing, I happen to agree with the sentiment generally)

Assuming that's the route they've taken, I just hope it isn't as overdone and literal as in the recent Muse album. The lyrics to IQ's Harvest of Souls are a good example of how to do this sort of thing right.


 
Pain of Salvation has tackled a lot of controversial issues, poorly I might add. Their first two albums featured many horrible concepts I could not tolerate, and they weren't convincing at all (not to mention I think they're trashy neo-hippies). The music is normally average or above, but the political thought is generally best left out of music in my opinion. Musicians are not usually experts on war, economy, government, or anything really.... except music (if that!). Just play the music and shutup I say.
 
With song titles like those, I presume Gildenlow will continue disliking America and its policies (where many of his fans are from). If that's all not insulting enough, try this. Gildenlow refused to tour the United States with the Flower Kings a few years back because he didn't want the American Government to have his fingerprints (which you must do in order to enter of course). What a hippy, like I said.
 
I hope he doesn't stoop down to his previous levels again, I just want some quality music. The entertainers of our world frequently take idiotic stances, and beyond that this guy's not George Orwell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 20:27
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I have a good feeling Flame to the Moth and Enter Rain will be the best songs. I'm beginning to think there's a concept behind putting two words together for three consecutive song titles (Scarsick-Spitfall-Cribcaged).



Scarsick
Spitfall
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Car Sick

Pitfall

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 19:29
With names like Idiocracy and America, my guess is that POS has joined the Bush-hating that a lot of bands, prog and otherwise, put into their lyrics these days (not saying that's a bad thing, I happen to agree with the sentiment generally)

Assuming that's the route they've taken, I just hope it isn't as overdone and literal as in the recent Muse album. The lyrics to IQ's Harvest of Souls are a good example of how to do this sort of thing right.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:29
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That I know, but considering King Of Loss was on TPE 1, I would have expected a song titled Kingdom Of Loss to be on TPE 2 (and when the hell will they be getting round to do that!?)
 
I don't think they are. I forgot where I read it, but I don't think they plan on writing a part 2.

I remember reading the interview on  here with DG and he said that its possible after this album (Scarsick).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:05
^ actually they are, but in an interview some time ago Daniel said it's not going to be too soon and that they don't feel, in any way, pressed to write the sequel
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 17:33
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That I know, but considering King Of Loss was on TPE 1, I would have expected a song titled Kingdom Of Loss to be on TPE 2 (and when the hell will they be getting round to do that!?)
 
I don't think they are. I forgot where I read it, but I don't think they plan on writing a part 2.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 17:25
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I have a good feeling Flame to the Moth and Enter Rain will be the best songs. I'm beginning to think there's a concept behind putting two words together for three consecutive song titles (Scarsick-Spitfall-Cribcaged).


yeeeeeeeeah... you keep working on that, see how it goesConfusedConfusedConfusedLOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:45

I have a good feeling Flame to the Moth and Enter Rain will be the best songs. I'm beginning to think there's a concept behind putting two words together for three consecutive song titles (Scarsick-Spitfall-Cribcaged).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:38
Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

they should get me even though i play guitar

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Well, I have a 6 string bass, so I think I'm a bit farther up the queue.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:22
they should get me even though i play guitar

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:16
Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

names are dumb but im sure PoS will impress

will be interesting to see how they do things without their former bassist

Well Daniel's done all the bass work this time out and I think he writes most of the music anyway, its who they get in to replace Kristoffer Gildenlow for when they go on tour that I'm worried about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:13
names are dumb but im sure PoS will impress

will be interesting to see how they do things without their former bassist


Edited by OpethGuitarist - November 14 2006 at 16:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 15:34
First scarsick, now Spitfall, Cribcaged, Disco Queen, Mrs. Modern Mother Mary, Idiocracy and America? Where do they get these reatarded names??? Also, I am pretty excited for this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 15:27
arghhh... I cannot wait any longer!!!! PoS! now!... u-ga-cha-ga, u-ga-cha-ga!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:59
Good news. It's not much, but at least they have something to keep us thinking about.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:34
^That I know, but considering King Of Loss was on TPE 1, I would have expected a song titled Kingdom Of Loss to be on TPE 2 (and when the hell will they be getting round to do that!?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:32
^ It's also the name of their website/fanclub.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:28
Kingdom Of Loss? I wonder if thats a TPE referance?


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