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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 14:46
This seems to be the best place for this one. Have just taken this one out for a first date, seems interesting so far.



Factrix
Scheintot

Released 1981 on Adolescent Records
Reviewed by Julian Cope
Side One:
  1. Eerie Lights (4.05)
  2. Heavy Breathing (4.58)
  3. Center of the Doll (4.56)
  4. Thin Line (2.20)
  5. Anemone Housing (2.21)
Side Two:
  1. Over My Shoulder (And Out Of My Life) (3.10)
  2. Ballad of the Grim Rider (4.17)
  3. Snuff Box (4.43)
  4. Phantom Pain (5.05)


Gothedelick K.O.

Travelling through the USA with The Teardrop Explodes during 1980-82, and always in a psychedelic condition, I was strongly aware through my meetings with umpteen kohl-eyed LSD-informed edge-of-towners that the more extreme elements of the W. Coast American Underground were in the process of appropriating many facets (both musically fundamental and sartorial stylistic) of the equivalent English and New York scenes; but subsuming them all into a uniquely ‘Gothadelick’ melage of their very own. And so it was that on the terrifically heatful American Pacific coast, incongruous long macs and the Germanic funk of the English Northern scene came to be conflated into the more obviously Banshee/Cureified darkness and dyed black hair of the post-punk south of England, and the wailing wall-eyed immediately-post-Blank Generation stares of arch NY so-jazz smackies, to manifest in San Francisco as groups such as Patrick Miller’s disturbing Minimal Man and Messrs. Bergland, Jacobs & Palme’s even more disturbing Factrix. Alongside such artists as Monte Cazazza and Boyd Rice, the aforementioned were responsible for creating unearthly and unexpectedly vampiric blends of A Certain Ratio’s “All Night Party” 45, Throbbing Gristle’s ‘Slugbait’, Cabaret Voltaire’s canon of Krautdub, the Detroit rock-through-an-ERASERHEAD filter of Chrome, the NO NEW YORK Do-Nuthing distorto-epic that was Mars circa “Hairwaves”, the micro-orbiting dirges of 1977/78 Pere Ubu’s “My Dark Ages”/“Chinese Radiation”/”Laughing”, etc. If the EDWARD SCISSORHANDS soundtrack had been supplied by Hollywood musos using Factrix’s SCHEINTOT LP as their blueprint, it would have created a perfect snapshot of the hairbrushed post-punk twilight zone that was the 70s/80s gateway.


Huddled in concert
Unfortunately, however, Factrix’s wonderfully greedy metaphor was undermined by their sheer extremeness. Despite opening their career with the amazing industrial funk assault of their debut single “Empire of Passion”, Factrix wasn’t ever gonna be a singles band. Coming across like English post-punks playing an all-night Final Solution gig at the Acklam Hall, they really shoulda been treading the same stages as Clock DVA, Prag Vec, early Manicured Noise (pre-Steve Walsh version) and their ilk in order to get anywhere. From my own experiences from late ’78 onwards - those were days when Fast Product-style bands made three or four singles before they started to make a dent in anyone’s consciousness. The intense rivalry spurred people on, whereas Factrix was 6,000 miles from where the boys were. True, Bergland and Palme had begun life as part of Patrick Miller’s Minimal Man project, playing four shows in that configuration. But even the rivalry generated between their split was never gonna be enough fuel for their flames. From the gathered evidence, even after supporting such illuminati as Sheffield’s Cabaret Voltaire, Arto Lindsay’s screechy DNA, and Australian ur-primitives SPK (SoliPsisticK), the overall Factrix career was apparently such a downer that it temporarily destroyed the mind of each member and saw them return from their only tour homeless and (it is said) destitute. Unfathomable and unlistenable to all but the most ardent adepts (and subscribers to SORDIDE SENTIMENTALE, natch!) at a time when almost everyone in the real underground had a least opened their ears to accommodate the coming Industrial sounds, the Factrix trio’s miniscule output and often almost rhythmless take on all of the above-mentioned artists made the group virtually unreachable; so much so indeed that they have become forgotten over the past decades and not even been celebrated with a CD re-release until very recently1 – and even then not in their original musical sequences.


Both sides of the portal
However, Time itself is the real judge of true art, and those NO NEW YORK ‘art terrorists’ are now no more than the archaic fart feasts of yesteryear – temporary jazz sneezes into an already too-damp snotrag. The dismembered music of Factrix, on the other hand, grows more contemporary by the year. And, as their sole LP SCHEINTOT is as genuinely disturbing and richly disorientating a piece of Death-warmed-up as you would ever wish to investigate, I figured now was the time – in these post-Khanatean days – to heft some of its drumbox deathray drool your way. And, whilst Factrix was a handsome trio of black-clad Jim Morrison-on-a-Robert Smithtrip death post-punks from inner space, playing bizarre subterranean cemetery non-blues, it was an incredibly precise piece of genius to name their debut LP SCHEINTOT, for this is the German equivalent of ‘suspended animation’ or a ‘state of apparent death’ – describing the muse-sick of Factrix perfectly. Indeed, Factrix could never have been described as ‘drum machine-driven’ in the early-Bunnymen/Sisters of Mercy manner, quite the opposite in fact. For whilst the whilst the Scythian guitar of Bond Bergland, the burbling electronic FX of Cole Palme, and bouncing octave bass of Joseph Jacobs often created its own propulsion, the drumbox itself often stuttered and spluttered against the beat like some sweating office junior inappropriately and unconsciously plucking at his boss’ Newton’s Cradle during an important office meeting. In the midst of all this sonic catering, the interplay between the voices of Bergland, Palme and Jacobs added another horizon of sound, simultaneously human and inhuman, as one band member narrated from the front line whilst the other two sung, droned, intoned and plainsong (plainsung?) together. Like a scene from POLTERGEIST, Factrix music conjures up the disjointed sounds of a haunted house with perpetually bizarre goings-on, as increasingly bored TV journalists narrate the previous day’s activities from the safety of the garden gate. It was these simultaneously personal and impersonal perspectives that drove the Factrix muse on and on.

But that weren’t nearly enough for these Poe faced kiddies, no, dear me no. These druids had to go umpteen seven-league boot strides further, and illustrate the back cover of their LP sleeve with a tomb rubbing from the back of Ralph Hamsterly’s bizarre 16th century Oxfordshire grave at the chillingly-named Doddington – ‘farm [ton] at the judgement centre [ting] of the dead [dod]’. Then they had their sinister mate Monte Cazazza (himself a twilighter supreme) set up a front cover photograph that involved a naked female friend seemingly being disrobed by a ancient skeletal hand so perished that wire was necessary to clamp them drybones together. Obviously informed by Mik Mellen’s bizarrely unfinished Cleveland industrial photographs of the mid/late 70s, this half-scene-through-a-semi-closed-door vision of their world propels the listener into a dreamlandscape somewhat akin to that sacred phantom downland conjured up on The Residents’ NOT AVAILABLE.


Pin-ups

“It Was Taking Us To Some Very Dark Places”

For the creation of the ultimate possible form of Rock’n’roll music, I’ve always reckoned on needing a balance of about 65% Tradition to about 35% Novelty. In this way, your song can still be propelled along by a candy-assed cliché of a hookline that everyone reckons to have heard a zillion times before (The Traditional element), because the context in which that cliché finds itself is unbalanced enough to bring something entirely new to the party (The Novelty element). The greatest purveyors of Rock’n’roll always seem to have adhered to this formula, Suicide, Prince, Outkast being great cases in point, but The Velvet Underground still being ur-practitioners of the Ult.

However, such simplistic rules go right out of the window when addressing the so-called Experimental Music scene. Indeed, I’d probably have to go simultaneously in both of the other directions if asked to make the case for presenting The Alchemical Instruction Book for the Optymum Methodes of Reachyng Most Effectyve Experimental Musics, and say that travelling ‘all the way to 100% cliché’ is possibly even more effective than the route that follows the signpost reading ‘100% novelty’. In other words, just as Kimmy the Fowl’s OUTRAGEOUS was a spoof psychedelic Death & Resurrection Trip that still functioned as the real thing, so in the same way can true psychedelic disorientation be genuinely achieved simply by putting together a rigorous assortment of such obvious ingredients as Sabbath doom chord changes and Hammer Horror sound FX, weaksh*t bubbling drumboxes, portentous Lizard King proclamations, squirrly analogue ARP-ness, Brion Gysin-style early cut-up doomalogues about rotten and drowned muses; and all done whilst wearing white face, black clothes and hairstyles a la Tristan Tzara. Which is why Factrix, a trip forged entirely of slugs and snails and puppy-dogs tails can be so successful artistically AND useful psychically. Yup, even if it’s ultimately just a Pyrrhic Victory for Rock’n’roll, listening to “Horse Latitudes” as performed by autistic adolescents in Charles Manson’s boxroom is always gonna be a worthwhile exercise to your most seasoned Inner Space Traveller. Taking a look at the Factrix trio’s instrument list (and the manner in which it is described) is itself a journey through their own prolapsing minds:
BOND BERGLAND: guitars, vocals, tape treatments, viola, radioguitar, percussion, drum machine, processing, zither, teakettle
COLE PALME: vocals, glaxobass, multimoog, tape treatments, drum machine, processing, amputated bass
JOSEPH JACOBS: bass guitar, fretless bass, drum machine, vocals, tape treatments, pennywhistle, migh-wiz, saz, doumbek, flute, percussion



Concert Poster
Like the early Chrome experiments, to which guitarists John Lambdin and Gary Spain often added disconnected droning electric violins, the many defocusing elements offered by this floating Factrix line-up disabled the listeners’ ability to judge the music on any other level than the FX of the overall sound. Indeed, so disconnected was the Factrix sonic stew that sometimes the only graspable and protruding reference point (perhaps a doomy guitar hook, or maybe a repeated yet still-unearthly vocal) instantly became massive and almost poppy to the listener, purely because it was being made by something from within the realms of their own experiences. It’s a bit like those Residents-produced Snakefinger records that came out on Ralph Records around 1978, insofar as we all imagined his phantom backing band to be ghostly unreachable Alien Muppets, but at least Snakefinger himself was a guitarist/singer, albeit one who inhabited cartoon landscapes.

Admittedly, SCHEINTOT is hardly the kind of LP that should be given a song-by-song description, save to say that, in context, “Ballad of the Grim Rider” sounds like a Top 10 hit merely because it has a graspable form (and don’t get me started on the Odinist imagery that pervades their entire oeuvre). But SCHEINTOT is a record that deserves to be experienced several times, preferably in the darkness and in a state of near exhaustion (and/or informed by psychoactive chemicals). Its only failure in the dark light of the early 21st century is to be a half-hour to short – and even that could be remedied by several back-to-back playings without overly wearing out the (what) hooklines. Sitting some way between Germany’s ultra playful Der Plan and Throbbing Gristle’s Gen-driven death music, the underlying heartbeating non-groove that informs all Factrix music is always a truly human one, a beeping crab skank that takes you forever two steps forward and three steps back. But if you accept the Factrix metaphor of suspended animation and give yourself to SCHEINTOT’s unyielding form, listeners will soon reach below the incurably arch vocals into a pre-temple-building nomadic (and still-glacial) nether world somewhere close to that archaic place where the Frost Giants played and the nomadic Trickster kept his prick stuffed into a box that he carried around on his back. Let me take you down, ‘cause I’m going too!




FOOTNOTES:
  1. Released at the beginning of 2003 by Germany’s Storm Records, the double-CD set ARTIFACT includes the whole of the SCHEINTOT LP on the first disc, commencing with their 45RPM debut ‘Empire of Passion’ and its B-side ‘Spice of Life’. Terminally disorientating and zoned out of its tiny mind, this package reveals many of the tricks that those few SCHEINTOT fans could have only guessed at down the years. The photographic sequence that led Monte Cazazza to his final LP cover shot is particularly arresting. This FACTRIX release is available for $22 from tesco-distro.com or €17 from tesco-germany.com


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 14:28
^^^^ hehe, sound nice. I love going to those sorts of places, the bookstore/cafe, they have a nice warm homely feeling. France is still a place I have get to experience, which I am very sad about.

Also Assaf, that is good news about the Abus Dangereux. Is this CD or vinyl they are going to be ordering in. I have been lurking around all those market places on the internet trying to find a vinyl version.

I was having a look on rateyourmusic and it seem they have release more albums than I expected. But there is no mention of the 1991 release.





(1982)




(1983)






Well Ultima Thule surprises me once again with the selection of (for very resumable prices):

ABUS DANGEREUX - LE QUATRIEME MOUVEMENT (AJ) LP ex+/ex £10.00 - Lively fusion circa 1980, ECM & Magma styles.

ABUS DANGEREUX - HAPPY FRENCH BAND (Metro) LP ex/vg £9.00 - © 1983.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 10:10
^^^
Yuko, I think that for our retirement we should all go to either La Cote D'azur or somewhere in Provence. Open up our own music store and enjoy life, eating brie and saint albray and having a nice Pinot Noir from Burgogne or a Saint Emilion from Bordeaux region and listen to music all day in our store and invite good friends to join us. Our favourite clients would be Adam, Claire,Hugues Chantraine, Alucard, Syzygy, Joren, TP, Honganji, Faaip, Rocktopus, Jody, RoyalJelly, Gecko, Chamberry, Guigo, Raffaella, Micky and my many other friends here... (sorry for not mentioning anyone).

We'll have a large Vynil section and a cd section and have representation of all kinds of music, with somewhere to eat and read a good book just outside...
I can picture it already....
Ah, well... see you in 30-35 years....



    
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 10:03
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

[QUOTE=Yukorin]
When I was still a child living in France, my grandpa had one those ...


I am so jealous avers!


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HUR
DEH ANTZIK KOHNTARKOSZ KREUHN KOHRMAHN
STOHT WURDAH MELEKAAHM
UZ, DEH ORKBAHNN KREUHN KOHRMAHN
ZEBEHN STRAIN DE GEUSTAAH WORTSIS, DA REUS STOAH

LAH WORTZ REISFUNK DEH WEHRESTEHGEUHNZUR,
UND, DEH BUNDEHR DRAKAIDA KOMMANDOH,
WUHR DI HEUL ZORTSUNG.
UTS FUR KALAIN, HIMEUHN ZEBEHN DEH REUSTIIHN,
EWEHN DEUH LANTSIN SLAKEHNDO

UN DOS WEUHLELIP DA FELTES KOMESTAAHT ?
UN DOS WEUHLELIP DOHRT MITLAITOSS ?
UN DOS WEUHLELIP HUR WAHREK KOBAIA ?

ZIN DON KAH
HURWAH DEH ZUN,
HURWAH DEH ZEBEHN,
HURWAH DEH GEUSTAH,
HURWAH DEH GLEST,
HURWAH DEH KUMPKAH,
HURWAH DEH HURWAH,
HURWAH DEH KAMKAI!

U WEUHL DOWELESS ITAH DEH STAUHI,
IDIT STROSS ISS TRAI UN, UNDOS WEUHLELIP
KOBAIA IMEHN DA FELT DOS ZANKA,
UDETS GLAO, UT STIIK REIS STIS KLOWITS
THOSZ MAGMA ARGESDRAH STOI UNDO
SIWEHN TAUH HAUD TAK SIK STAUHIWA
IS DEH RAWEN DEH STUNDIIT
EK DA HERDZORT FUH OSK,
DUTZ EUHT WEUHRDREST
DOS BUNDEHR WORTSIS GLAO,
DUNT DEH REUGHELEMOSTEH.
IS MALAWEHLEHKAAHM, DA HEURTZ,
STEHRDEK, WIRT DA FELT
DOS SIWENN DONDREST,
UWEUHL KUMPKAAH!
UWEUHL KUMPKAAH!
KOBAIA ISS DEH HUNDIN.
WEUHRLIP KOBAIA
ZIMEUHN KOBAIA
UN ZAIN KOBAIA
ORGREHGEHNN STAUHI KOBAIA



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 09:53
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

Carrefour car park

    
When I was still a child living in France, my grandpa had one those ... After that he had the Peugeot 504, which he then passed on to my parents.
Do you know the Lius De Funes movies? In some of them there were some funny Citroens and there was also the three wheels one (much like the one in the Mr. Bean series).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 09:40
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:


Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I believe Adam and Honganji together are the ultimate waling breathing

Is 'waling' missing an I, H, or K ? Either way I think you are right

    
Oops, I meant Walking....

Adam, that group sounds interesting. Added to my "To Dicover List" which I am trying these days to fulfill.

Still waiting for Pataphonie to reach me....
Also, Thierry at Musea told me about them needing to order my Abus Dangereux and I do hope they can get hold of it. I want "Le Quatrieme Mouvement". Does anyne know their 1991 release and how is it like?

Good to have you back Adam.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 09:19
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:


Mike McLatchey        11-August-2002      Ma Banlieue Flasque
...but some of it wouldn't have been done in the first place if it wasn't for Frank Zappa.


Lazy writing. But I really wanna hear this!


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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:


Nothing does crazy like French experimental music


Totally agree. The French are masters at it. Any medium


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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I believe Adam and Honganji together are the ultimate waling breathing


Is 'waling' missing an I, H, or K ? Either way I think you are right


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2006 at 06:57
Now I have found this thread, this was originally where I was going to post this as some of the collector see this one as having the Zeuhl spirit.




Ma Banlieue Flasque


Mike McLatchey        11-August-2002      Ma Banlieue Flasque

Ma Banlieue Flasque (1979) (Celluloid LTM 1.021)

Nothing does crazy like French experimental music, but some of it wouldn't have been done in the first place if it wasn't for Frank Zappa. From the opening vocals on the album, it's evident that, vocally, the intent is satirical and humorous (although most of this is lost on me, due to the language), and the falsetto is typical of Frank and co., especially in the "Baby Snakes" days. MBF have a guitars/sax/flute/bass/drums instrumental line up and there is plenty of room for instrumentals once the initial "13'20 D'Happiness" is over. "N.S.K." shows strains of "Legend" period Henry Cow, with more falsetto vocals, and some very nice drumming. I think it's about two minutes into this track that you hear one of the first of several instrumental jams on the album, definitely what make this piece compulsory. Brilliant drumming, a chance for some really nice solos, including bass. A Canterbury-like flavor permeates, subtly similar to early Caravan's jams, a great piece of music. The album really escalates in quality from here (don't let the first track put you off.) "H.B.H.V"'s slight Happy the Man feel is quite captivating, although the scaling is slightly off-kilter, and when the lead guitar kicks in, you start to realize how much Gong is going on here as well. The last two tracks continue at an incredibly high level of energy, the music just gets better and better. No doubt there were some RIO connections going on, there's some excellent playfulness here that only the best musicians master, an interplay that is on an unusually high level. A great one-shot, no doubt, recommended to fans of RIO, Jazz, and Canterbury.

(Originally published in Exposé # 17, p. 26, Edited for Gnosis 8/11/02)


Also, the Mosaic did sound quite nice. Only listened through it once at the moment. Had heard it before, but this listening brought back some good memories. Thanks to those who made a bit of hipe about them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2006 at 20:16
Oh, for heavens sake, you can't just go and change the freakin title like this... I took me 10 minutes to figure out where the hell it is.... LOL
 
 
Anyway, Mosaic is very good. And you know who introduced me to them?
Yep, Honganji. I believe Adam and Honganji together are the ultimate waling breathing and talking guide to prog and beyond....
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2006 at 09:25
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:




A temporary thread title change






I like it! Mmm.

And anyone who likes all that would love this Avantprog/RIO/New Wave/electronic, thinsounding italian secret from from '87. Not in the archives, but should be:


Edit: Sorry, the image fall out. LA 1919 Ars Sra
 
All the info I could find:

Luciano Margorani & Piero Chianura, with contributions from John Oswald, Henry Kaiser, Enrico Salvi, Fabio Martini and
Angelo Avogardi....Couldn't find any detailed information about the group, but this recording is clearly a pan-Atlantic collaboration, with master tapes sent between Milan and California. Side A (tracks 1-4) is Italian, side B features the American artists, with Henry Kaiser performing on four tracks. Travellingluck.com

I should probably have posted this (and Art Fleury) in the RIO Drop in thread, but with this new name, its sort of ok. Posting something obscure like this in the suggesting bands tread is pointless, it very fast will fall out of the first page with no replies. (And with ca. ten people having had a look, four of them being myself)


Edited by Rocktopus - November 17 2006 at 01:54
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2006 at 05:53

...and as a tribute to the many glorious and various 'appreciation' threads that are fountaining up like droplets of honeydew rolling down the tear drenched face of the Guardian of the Key whose duty is to unlock desires imbedded deep inside the minds of the young girls whom frequent the sandy beaches of the minds eye who is retiring his post today:

A temporary thread title change




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2006 at 05:37

It's Thursday night. The weekend starts tomorrow

A big thank you for the copy of Mosaic 'Ultimatum'. As mentally unstable and orgiastic as one could wish for ! What the fark was in the water supply in France in the late seventies ? Will review. In time.

And a few ice-cold beers await whoever got their hands on this jewel. And sex (male or female. I ain't too fussed)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 22:34

B Side label:




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A Side label:




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 22:32

Yeah, it's pretty rare C! There is a story that Sir Richard Branson liked the cover so the majority of the 500 copies were sold at Virgin and that most were turned into frisbies and ashtrays. Heathens!






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