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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2006 at 00:03


 

Listening to this right now (thanks Blackie) ! and it is simply wonderful. One can tell instantly it is from 1985: So slickly produced and polished it makes Wham's seminal 'Make It Big' sound like Trout Mask Replica


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 22:00
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:


but then again..although busy participating in 2 sub-genre threads, I have a bit of a problem with categories myself


Same here. I usually break it down as

Krautrock
RIO/Canterbury/Zeuhl
Progressive Rock
Avant-Garde/Classical
Folk/Jazz/World
Ambient/Electronic

Rush, Dream Theatre, Opeth et al is just HM to me


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 21:53
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I FINALLY received Pataphonie - Le Matin Blanc
 
 


Oh! Joyous day!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 21:51
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:


I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information.


Ah! Yes! I flipped when I heard them too! I asked around a lot, but didn't learn much. It seems they never recorded/released anything unfortunately. They were from Toulouse, France (late '70s/'80s). They were originally a quartet (drums, bass, keyboards, guitar), and finally a trio [no guitar]. I was told they were a band that had led on for Magma, and only did one thing: a long version of a piece called "K'a" which was constantly in a state of flux and evolution. They split up when their drummer left [Roger Lahana] to become a scientist.



K'a was floating around some trading sites a few years back in a very (apparently) dubious copy. Could have been a hoax. But why try and hoax only the five people who would care?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 17:27
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:


Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

laid my hands on some very nice wax etc
Where do you find these obscurities C ? !I have an image in my head of you relaxing in your penthouse apartment dressed in little more than leather hot-pants and smudged mascara with a fine claret in one hand and a brown leather whip in the other administering orders to a team of dwarfs to find you the vinyl that will satisfy your every whim. Marry me ?


lol! I'm frigging old, A. and, B, I have lots of well-informed friends [many still slaving away in record stores since '80 or so]. Hmm, I guess you could call them my helpers actually...tee hee hee ;) [and, she must admit, she does rather like to wield her toys rather rather...   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 17:15
It'll be mext month probably... I have gone a bit over my limit this month...
Anyway, it's not your stuff, its normal music....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kidding of course  LOL  you'll be the first to know.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 17:00
^^^ sounds like a good purchase, you will have to tell me what they are like. I'm interested in see what these sound like. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:55
^^^
No, He ordered them from either Greg Walker or Doug Larson.
Which is exactly what I am going to so.
Next purchases:
Speed Limit
Anamorphose
Troisieme Rive
Chene Noir
Oniris
Ometaxalia Et Bucci
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:52
There is very little to be found about the Speed Limit, I have only heard of them but not farmiliar with there music.

Speed Limit - Speed Limit (1st) - 1974



A1Sleep Walker11:12
A2Pava5:04
A3Abra2:57
B1Spanish Dream9:16
B2Ballad to Laura Antonelli6:31
B3Ducky3:58

Speed Limit - Speed Limit (2nd) - 1975



A1Time's Tune

a. Breeze Borealis6:00

b. A Run around the Block3:40

c. Jettatura4:10

d. Good Night Little Bear1:05
A2African Dance N° 34:00
B1Pastoral Idyl

a. Pastoral Idyl - Part I1:55

b. Lemon Tree8:40

c. Reaching the Stars3:21

d. To the Girl of the Moon1:17

e. Pastoral Idyl - Part II6:14


Did Meidad Zacharia (MIO Records) on an Israeli Forum (Nana.co.il). have these in stock, from looking around I was not certain there was a CD reissue.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:43
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I am such an idiot... Sebkha got here by mistake from another list I am making...
Disregard it.
 
How about those others? They are mainly symphonic or closely related to it and not on PA and I saw warm recommendations of them by Meidad Zacharia (MIO Records) on an Israeli Forum (Nana.co.il).
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:40
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Sorry to repost these, but I want make sure you did not miss it:
 
What about those:
 
  • Troisieme Rive
  • Chene Noir
  • Ometaxalia
  • Speed Limit

  • Sebkha Chott 
  • Anamorphose 
  • Tai Phong
  • Semool
Some French bands of mixed genres.
 
We should turn this thread from Zeuhl based to mixed obscure based (mob)...
 
 
 


Sebkha Chott, is really the only one I am overly familiar with they produce a cracker of a debut album this year. I must recommend them for anyone who is interesting in Mr Bungle or Secret Chiefs 3
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:38
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:


I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information.


Ah! Yes! I flipped when I heard them too! I asked around a lot, but didn't learn much. It seems they never recorded/released anything unfortunately. They were from Toulouse, France (late '70s/'80s). They were originally a quartet (drums, bass, keyboards, guitar), and finally a trio [no guitar]. I was told they were a band that had led on for Magma, and only did one thing: a long version of a piece called "K'a" which was constantly in a state of flux and evolution. They split up when their drummer left [Roger Lahana] to become a scientist.



Thank you so much for that information, though it is a bit saddening to hear they did released anything. From what you said before, that track was something like a 30min epic. For some reason on the mp3 version it seems to cut out at around 5 min. Is this just me? or am I imagining things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:34
ach! I just got tsk-tsk-ed for terming a '71 lp RIO. I need to qualify here/what the term means to me: I use the term 'RIO' not literally [in terms of the Cutler proj and it's offshoots, that is, literally w/ dates], but, as I said, to name any-thing but the kit. sink music really.. as i said to someone recently, I really like the term avant-prog the best for this. Yes, definately better than the term 'RIO,' but that's something it seems more folks know/understand a bit as a genre stretching genre, so...

    

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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:


I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information.


Ah! Yes! I flipped when I heard them too! I asked around a lot, but didn't learn much. It seems they never recorded/released anything unfortunately. They were from Toulouse, France (late '70s/'80s). They were originally a quartet (drums, bass, keyboards, guitar), and finally a trio [no guitar]. I was told they were a band that had led on for Magma, and only did one thing: a long version of a piece called "K'a" which was constantly in a state of flux and evolution. They split up when their drummer left [Roger Lahana] to become a scientist.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:16
Sorry to repost these, but I want make sure you did not miss it:
 
What about those:
 
  • Troisieme Rive
  • Chene Noir
  • Ometaxalia
  • Speed Limit
  • Sebkha Chott 
  • Anamorphose 
  • Tai Phong
  • Semool
Some French bands of mixed genres.
 
We should turn this thread from Zeuhl based to mixed obscure based (mob)...
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:09
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Also for post-punk, love the artsy side of it; don't know about the rest on here.

One quick question. I keep hearing this new-wave term. What does this entail?


Post Punk is an exceedingly all-inclusive term in many ways. It, obviously, stems from the origin of punk, but veered away from the simplicity of musical structure/chord progression into more complex and/or experimental, often art-sy, territory. This while, again of course, [hence the moniker], retaining some of punk's attitude shall we say; its stance of challenging status-quo pre-conceptions. Often sound wise retaining some of the rawness, passion, & intensity [like frigging amazing & hot razor guitar] of the former. One of my all-time great loves is early [and that is IMPORTANT! they rather sold-out ;(] Gang of Four.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:54
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

but then again..although busy participating in 2 sub-genre threads, I have a bit of a problem with categories myself. I think they too often imply limits, bounds within which we try to pigeon-hole artists. art, great art anyway, shall, we hope, try to create and exist beyond such aforesaid limits implied by definition. yes yes, necessity [of understanding] I know, I know..


Don't matter I have the exact same problem as I think a lot of people here do. You just have to see from to stuff I have been posting I take the genres very widely, and not overly focused.

I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it). Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have been in vain searching for information.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:48
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Maajun, Don't know if this one, what is their style?


Maajun is the 1st incarnation of [1971]Mahjun; the common thread being french multi-instrumentalist jean-louis mahjun. Listening now - very interesting indeed. psyche prog i would say, w. some very twisted, experimental edges, so one might want to edge it towards the RIO cat. - only on track 3 now though - hmmm, world/folk elements.. I would [thus far...] say RIO it is, imho. some def rock in there though. and some definite twisted-ness makes it un-classifiable in any singular genre. generally, any-thing but the kit. sink music w/ rock elements I put in the RIO category myself...

cleo



Thanks for that, it sounds like my sort of thing. Now heading off to do some research.


I have been looking around and I am wondering if any one is going to be able to shed some light on this band/album.

WHITE MARIE ALDER & RED NOISE - New the widow of the owl/ophelia

From what I can tell this is a very rare Zeuhl-ish album from France 1970. Just wondering if anyone has any information on the band.


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but then again..although busy participating in 2 sub-genre threads, I have a bit of a problem with categories myself. I think they too often imply limits, bounds within which we try to pigeon-hole artists. art, great art anyway, shall, we hope, try to create and exist beyond such aforesaid limits implied by definition. yes yes, necessity [of understanding] I know, I know..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:14
I give both of the L'INFONIE albums noted a major vote of YES YES YES!

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