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Yukorin
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Posted: November 19 2006 at 00:03 |
Listening to this right now (thanks Blackie) ! and it is simply wonderful. One can tell instantly it is from 1985: So slickly produced and polished it makes Wham's seminal 'Make It Big' sound like Trout Mask Replica
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 22:00 |
listennow801 wrote:
but then again..although busy participating in 2 sub-genre threads, I have a bit of a problem with categories myself | Same here. I usually break it down as
Krautrock RIO/Canterbury/Zeuhl Progressive Rock Avant-Garde/Classical Folk/Jazz/World Ambient/Electronic
Rush, Dream Theatre, Opeth et al is just HM to me
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 21:53 |
avestin wrote:
I FINALLY received Pataphonie - Le Matin Blanc
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 21:51 |
listennow801 wrote:
Black Velvet wrote:
I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information. |
Ah! Yes! I flipped when I heard them too! I asked around a lot, but didn't learn much. It seems they never recorded/released anything unfortunately. They were from Toulouse, France (late '70s/'80s). They were originally a quartet (drums, bass, keyboards, guitar), and finally a trio [no guitar]. I was told they were a band that had led on for Magma, and only did one thing: a long version of a piece called "K'a" which was constantly in a state of flux and evolution. They split up when their drummer left [Roger Lahana] to become a scientist.
| K'a was floating around some trading sites a few years back in a very (apparently) dubious copy. Could have been a hoax. But why try and hoax only the five people who would care?
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listennow801
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 17:27 |
Yukorin wrote:
listennow801 wrote:
laid my hands on some very nice wax etc | Where do you find these obscurities C ? !I have an image in my head of you relaxing in your penthouse apartment dressed in little more than leather hot-pants and smudged mascara with a fine claret in one hand and a brown leather whip in the other administering orders to a team of dwarfs to find you the vinyl that will satisfy your every whim. Marry me ? |
lol! I'm frigging old, A. and, B, I have lots of well-informed friends [many still slaving away in record stores since '80 or so]. Hmm, I guess you could call them my helpers actually...tee hee hee ;) [and, she must admit, she does rather like to wield her toys rather rather...
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avestin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 17:15 |
It'll be mext month probably... I have gone a bit over my limit this month...
Anyway, it's not your stuff, its normal music....
Kidding of course  you'll be the first to know.
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 17:00 |
^^^ sounds like a good purchase, you will have to tell me what they are like. I'm interested in see what these sound like.
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avestin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:55 |
^^^
No, He ordered them from either Greg Walker or Doug Larson.
Which is exactly what I am going to so.
Next purchases:
Speed Limit
Anamorphose
Troisieme Rive
Chene Noir
Oniris
Ometaxalia Et Bucci
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:52 |
There is very little to be found about the Speed Limit, I have only heard of them but not farmiliar with there music. Speed Limit - Speed Limit (1st) - 1974  A1 | Sleep Walker | 11:12 | A2 | Pava | 5:04 | A3 | Abra | 2:57 | B1 | Spanish Dream | 9:16 | B2 | Ballad to Laura Antonelli | 6:31 | B3 | Ducky | 3:58 |
Speed Limit - Speed Limit (2nd) - 1975  A1 | Time's Tune |
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| a. Breeze Borealis | 6:00 |
| b. A Run around the Block | 3:40 |
| c. Jettatura | 4:10 |
| d. Good Night Little Bear | 1:05 | A2 | African Dance N° 3 | 4:00 | B1 | Pastoral Idyl |
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| a. Pastoral Idyl - Part I | 1:55 |
| b. Lemon Tree | 8:40 |
| c. Reaching the Stars | 3:21 |
| d. To the Girl of the Moon | 1:17 |
| e. Pastoral Idyl - Part II | 6:14 |
Did Meidad Zacharia (MIO Records) on an Israeli Forum (Nana.co.il). have these in stock, from looking around I was not certain there was a CD reissue.
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avestin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:43 |
^^^
I am such an idiot... Sebkha got here by mistake from another list I am making...
Disregard it.
How about those others? They are mainly symphonic or closely related to it and not on PA and I saw warm recommendations of them by Meidad Zacharia (MIO Records) on an Israeli Forum (Nana.co.il).
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:40 |
avestin wrote:
Sorry to repost these, but I want make sure you did not miss it:
What about those:
- Troisieme Rive
- Chene Noir
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Ometaxalia
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Speed Limit
Sebkha Chott
- Anamorphose
- Tai Phong
- Semool
Some French bands of mixed genres.
We should turn this thread from Zeuhl based to mixed obscure based (mob)...
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Sebkha Chott, is really the only one I am overly familiar with they produce a cracker of a debut album this year. I must recommend them for anyone who is interesting in Mr Bungle or Secret Chiefs 3
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:38 |
listennow801 wrote:
Black Velvet wrote:
I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information. |
Ah! Yes! I flipped when I heard them too! I asked around a lot, but didn't learn much. It seems they never recorded/released anything unfortunately. They were from Toulouse, France (late '70s/'80s). They were originally a quartet (drums, bass, keyboards, guitar), and finally a trio [no guitar]. I was told they were a band that had led on for Magma, and only did one thing: a long version of a piece called "K'a" which was constantly in a state of flux and evolution. They split up when their drummer left [Roger Lahana] to become a scientist.
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Thank you so much for that information, though it is a bit saddening to hear they did released anything. From what you said before, that track was something like a 30min epic. For some reason on the mp3 version it seems to cut out at around 5 min. Is this just me? or am I imagining things.
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listennow801
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:34 |
ach! I just got tsk-tsk-ed for terming a '71 lp RIO. I need to qualify here/what the term means to me: I use the term 'RIO' not literally [in terms of the Cutler proj and it's offshoots, that is, literally w/ dates], but, as I said, to name any-thing but the kit. sink music really.. as i said to someone recently, I really like the term avant-prog the best for this. Yes, definately better than the term 'RIO,' but that's something it seems more folks know/understand a bit as a genre stretching genre, so...
Edited by listennow801 - November 18 2006 at 16:35
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listennow801
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:20 |
Black Velvet wrote:
I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information. |
Ah! Yes! I flipped when I heard them too! I asked around a lot, but didn't learn much. It seems they never recorded/released anything unfortunately. They were from Toulouse, France (late '70s/'80s). They were originally a quartet (drums, bass, keyboards, guitar), and finally a trio [no guitar]. I was told they were a band that had led on for Magma, and only did one thing: a long version of a piece called "K'a" which was constantly in a state of flux and evolution. They split up when their drummer left [Roger Lahana] to become a scientist.
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avestin
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:16 |
Sorry to repost these, but I want make sure you did not miss it:
What about those:
- Troisieme Rive
- Chene Noir
-
Ometaxalia
-
Speed Limit
- Sebkha Chott
- Anamorphose
- Tai Phong
- Semool
Some French bands of mixed genres.
We should turn this thread from Zeuhl based to mixed obscure based (mob)...
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listennow801
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 16:09 |
Black Velvet wrote:
Also for post-punk, love the artsy side of it; don't know about the rest on here.
One quick question. I keep hearing this new-wave term. What does this entail? |
Post Punk is an exceedingly all-inclusive term in many ways. It, obviously, stems from the origin of punk, but veered away from the simplicity of musical structure/chord progression into more complex and/or experimental, often art-sy, territory. This while, again of course, [hence the moniker], retaining some of punk's attitude shall we say; its stance of challenging status-quo pre-conceptions. Often sound wise retaining some of the rawness, passion, & intensity [like frigging amazing & hot razor guitar] of the former. One of my all-time great loves is early [and that is IMPORTANT! they rather sold-out ;(] Gang of Four.
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:54 |
listennow801 wrote:
but then again..although busy participating in 2 sub-genre threads, I have a bit of a problem with categories myself. I think they too often imply limits, bounds within which we try to pigeon-hole artists. art, great art anyway, shall, we hope, try to create and exist beyond such aforesaid limits implied by definition. yes yes, necessity [of understanding] I know, I know.. |
Don't matter I have the exact same problem as I think a lot of people
here do. You just have to see from to stuff I have been posting I take
the genres very widely, and not overly focused.
I know I have ask this before, but, cleo you would not happen to know
anything more about the band Evhoe (I think that is how you spell it).
Ever since I listened to that track on the Zeuhl compilation I have
been in vain searching for information.
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:48 |
listennow801 wrote:
Black Velvet wrote:
Maajun, Don't know if this one, what is their style?
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Maajun is the 1st incarnation of [1971]Mahjun; the common thread being french multi-instrumentalist jean-louis mahjun. Listening now - very interesting indeed. psyche prog i would say, w. some very twisted, experimental edges, so one might want to edge it towards the RIO cat. - only on track 3 now though - hmmm, world/folk elements.. I would [thus far...] say RIO it is, imho. some def rock in there though. and some definite twisted-ness makes it un-classifiable in any singular genre. generally, any-thing but the kit. sink music w/ rock elements I put in the RIO category myself...
cleo
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Thanks for that, it sounds like my sort of thing. Now heading off to do some research. I have been looking around and I am wondering if any one is going to be able to shed some light on this band/album. WHITE MARIE ALDER & RED NOISE - New the widow of the owl/opheliaFrom what I can tell this is a very rare Zeuhl-ish album from France 1970. Just wondering if anyone has any information on the band.
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listennow801
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:46 |
but then again..although busy participating in 2 sub-genre threads, I have a bit of a problem with categories myself. I think they too often imply limits, bounds within which we try to pigeon-hole artists. art, great art anyway, shall, we hope, try to create and exist beyond such aforesaid limits implied by definition. yes yes, necessity [of understanding] I know, I know..
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listennow801
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:14 |
I give both of the L'INFONIE albums noted a major vote of YES YES YES!
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