Is The GOP Race Over?

Dudemanguy wrote: Whoa, check out Rick Perry's new anti-gay, Jesus-inspired ad. (Realized it would fit better in here than the libertarian thread in case you noticed.)

This ad reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of what a President can do, which resonates with the level of understanding voters tend to have.


Edited by Epignosis - December 08 2011 at 17:39

The T wrote: It's funny how gullible people are. We speak of how candidates will choose a VP mate in order to appeal to certain people because of certain views when in the end we all know the VP doesn't do sh*t. Put a conservative next to a not-so con and people say "oh he IS a conservative" or whatever and when they get elected the only thing that matters is the president and his agenda.

Yeah, Cheney was just a figurehead.

Epignosis wrote: Anybody think Paul would have a shot at a VP nomination (if he doesn't get the presidential one)?

Absolutely not. The GOP's done everything to distance themselves from him, and he's clashed with enough establishment Republicans that they would never ask for him to be the VP.

As for Rand, if this were still 2010, I would say absolutely. But it seems like he's starting to head down his father's path, and he's clashed plenty with people on both sides of the aisle, so I don't think he'd have any chance either. This article speaks in volumes on the matter too.

The T wrote: I would understand the need to do it but making exceptions (as even GINGRICH of all people has said so) but this bitch is just heartless and a destroyer of families... .

His moderate (and sensible) stance on illegal immigration is one of the reasons I rather like Newt.  The only argument I've heard against him is "OMG HE'LL TRY TO BECOME KING" or "OMG HE'S NOT LIBERTARIAN."

Anybody think Paul would have a shot at a VP nomination (if he doesn't get the presidential one)?

I would understand the need to do it but making exceptions (as even GINGRICH of all people has said so) but this bitch is just heartless and a destroyer of families... .

So Cain is done, thank god.
Now all we need is Gingrich, Romney, Bachmann, Perry and...well I'll just say everyone else, to step down
Gingrich is now in the lead??? Considering how much of an anti insider sentiment was prevalent THAT is who now leads??? The people want as little change as the politicians when it comes down to it.

The only candidate that would bring change (for better or worse) has 0 chance now I'm positive. Though the ideas he espouses are now being used by the others to better their chances and probably will wipe their ass with them if elected.
looking like second term Obama despite the odds.


Edited by JJLehto - December 04 2011 at 00:06

^Race plays a big role in the democrats' game, too

History should matter for something.  You must at least acknowledge that it at least plays a part in the republican party in 2011.  And yeah, I'd be a total a-hole if I thought that party affiliation automatically makes you a racist.

Finnforest wrote: I knew that was coming.....implication of hidden racism Thanks dude

Aw come on, I have no doubt that you personally have good will.  But look, the Republican party was in control during the "Civil" war.  Southern Democrats were staunchly racist and pro slavery and wanted blacks to be kept in their place thereafter.  We had lynchings and church bombings and race riots whenever blacks dared to assert their right to equality.  Nixon wooed the southern racist democrats over with the southern strategy.  Maybe none of the current southern republicans have a racist bone in their bodies, I am not convinced.


Edited by Slartibartfast - December 03 2011 at 17:41