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Joined: September 20 2010
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 08:08
Knobby wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
^ ^ Ok, forget about The Who, they weren't Hammond driven band anyway, but what about Deep Purple In Rock then, it's 1970?
This is the sound what the LPs dealers in the ancient time sold as proto prog as Knobby explain to us.
"Book of Talysein" is the one you should be highlighting.
Yea, the great abum. I have LP.
Thanks a lot man, now I know what proto originaly wasin UK.
Just as a decor to this post - one more band from ex Yugoslavia, for what I think that'sproto-prog sound; this is Time, the band from Zagreb, and the longest track from their s/t debut released in 1972.
It's a brilliant heavy rock album with a smidgin of classical influence via Lord, deal with it and move on please. Concerto for Group and Orchestra by way of stark contrast on the other hand, now appears to be credited to Jon Lord as performed by Deep Purple?. This seems a tad revisionist to me, as that album is the only fully fledged Progressive Rock release under the Purple banner (and I love Purple)
That one still to be proto prog sound although the album was released in 1971 from remains of never realized "Lifehouse" project, and although there's Pete Townshend's amazing synth work as tribute to Terry Riley as well. The highlights of the album, the songs as "Bargain", "Song Is Over" and John Entwistle's "My Wife" are proto prog songs without a question.
Pete Townshend definitly pushed The Who (studio) sound into prog with Quadrophenia, 1973. After re-writing Tommy for the film, Mr Townshend loses the will to continue experimenting with The Who. The Who By Numbers , 1975, is made out of Townshend's songs chosen by Mr Daltrey and that album is great Adult Oriented Rock (AOR) album ; the last masterpiece of the original line up, Who Are You the album, is also awesome AOR. So, regarding The Who catalogue, there are three proto prog albums (Tommy, LAL, Who's Next) and one prog album (Quad) + Tommy the film music what is 100% progressive rock too.
I'm not sure if people are perhaps missing the point Dean highlighted earlier but as much as I love something like Whos Next and yes, it was a very ambitious and adventurous rock album that pushed that genre into uncharted territory, it was released in 1971 for f*ck's sake. Prog was a fully formed critter by then, had hair on its cojones, came home drunk with loose women and didn't change its underpants for days etc . If memory serves me correctly, Tarkus was the No 1 album in the UK that year and the likes of Yes, Crimson, VDGG and Gentle Giant were all well established acts long before this. This nebulous 'Proto sound' that some speak of: Is Crazy Horses (1972) Proto Prog because it's got a Buchla Synth on it? Is Greg Lake's Watching Over You (1977) 'Jazz' because it's got an upright bass?, is Queen's You're My Best Friend (1975) 'Fusion' because it's got an electric piano on it? Don't confuse texture with style/form.
Joined: September 20 2010
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 01:44
Dean wrote:
Not every psychedelic album is proto-prog.
.. e.g. this one, Exodus by Child. I suggested Child for PA' Crossover section because at that time Proto-Prog section already was almost closed for the new additions and the band have been rejected by pre-eval Team. But, this is really great proto-prog album from 1969. What you think about this music, Dean?
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 04:23
This is Pop Mašina, a proto prog band from my country, Ex Yugoslavia (Serbia).
They were added to PA as heavy prog act because the band was formed in 1972.
But, the Pop Mašina has proto prog sound during all time of their career and that SOUND you can hear very clear in (above posted video) the song "Kiselina" (transl. "Acid" ), which is the title track from their 1973 debut lp.
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Posted: June 26 2013 at 04:05
earlyprog wrote:
Knobby wrote:
Shame on you,earlyprog-guy.
Denmark & Belgium were hotbeds of the protoprog of my (and others) defining.
You would think that yourself being Danish would know better. If you really know the rock '69-'72s lps of your country then you would be familiar with the "sound" of which I speak. And you would side with me.
but yet you do not.
Afmittenltly, I do not know of the rock '69+' of my country (Denmark) (I''m too young?). ´¨I''m, reaching out a hand to you because I feel you´ve got someting to add to this site - I'm not an emeny)
LOVE, Dan!
We are all each others enemy, everyone comes here to smack the other members taste, and laugh of there statements.
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Dean wrote:
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nope. A Hammond Organ doth not a proto prog song make.
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