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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 09 2012 at 21:26 |
Yeah youre probably right, Queen, in that sense, is more of a rock band that inclined towards various sides and didnt focus much on one style, except for some albums. (not a criticism)
Sabbath were from the beginning heavy and doomish, with blues roots that began to fade with time. They did have their experimental and pop phase, but always within the hard rock realm.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: November 09 2012 at 19:08 |
Well, I'm a big fan of both, but... Sabbath's music is indeed much less varied than Queen's. Sabbath were moving towards metal but they always have stayed a metal act. Then Queen moved through heavy metal, hard rock, pop rock, dance (oftenly on the same album), and everything, even their poppiest albums, contained some experiments.
Edited by ole-the-first - November 09 2012 at 19:08
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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 09 2012 at 19:04 |
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
No contest here. Black Sabbath were great and genre defining, but their music was not as varied, interesting or well-played as Queen's.
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This.
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Really?
Interesting and varied? I think from Black Sabbath up to Heaven & Hell you got a lot of material that varies and can be very interesting. Sure, they're not the best players around, while Freddie might be one of rock's finest vocals, I prefer Ozzy's unique vocals that gave rock a whole new side.
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage, those two are very interesting hard rock albums with orchestral and synth arrangements.
I admit that I haven't listened as much Queen as Sabbath, mainly cause Queen didnt have the punch Sabbath had with Geezer and Iommi.
Edited by The Quiet One - November 09 2012 at 21:23
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menawati
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Posted: November 09 2012 at 17:57 |
Dusted off my old Queen at the Beeb LP last night and it blew me away. Voted Queen (but like sabbath too)
Oh yeh and side 1 of Sheer Heart Attack is much better than anything Sabbath ever did.
Edited by menawati - November 09 2012 at 17:58
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TheLionOfPrague
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Posted: November 09 2012 at 16:08 |
ole-the-first wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Sabbath !!! Can't stand Queen. |
Have you listened to Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, or you're judging on Greatest Hits or that kind of crap?
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This. Although he said he listened to those albums, a lot of people think Queen is "Radio Gaga" and "I Want to Break Free" and never listened to those albums or songs like "Prohet Song", "Millonaire Waltz" and "Great King Rat", etc.
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TheLionOfPrague
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Posted: November 09 2012 at 16:03 |
thellama73 wrote:
No contest here. Black Sabbath were great and genre defining, but their music was not as varied, interesting or well-played as Queen's.
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This.
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 23:09 |
ole-the-first wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Sabbath !!! Can't stand Queen. |
Have you listened to Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, or you're judging on Greatest Hits or that kind of crap?
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O.K. O.K. - You kinda caught me out a bit here. If I may say, my sister and, particularly her ex. are MASSIVE Queen fans to this day. I've heard pretty much all their albums. I liked some things on their debut (Great King Rat, Liar, My Fairy King) and the next tune I liked was Dragon Attack (from The Game - Deacon's bass-line is bleedin' killer). Then I liked the title cut of 'Innuendo'. Heard a gazillion times Day at the Races, Night at the Opera (nothing exciting there) and whilst I suppose I could consider Queen II and SHA tolerable, one thing just irks me to the very core - those bleedin' massed vocals - I prefer STYX doing this. Yes, Freddy was/is an amazing vocalist, but some of their more 'commercial' things that have been played to death just kill this whole entity known as 'Queen' for me. To say 'I can't stand 'em' maybe a bit brash, but there's tons of fairly average Prog I'd consider before devoting time to this band. Apologies, I don't mean to offend.............
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Sumdeus
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 13:16 |
I dig em both but Sabbath are just way more significant to me, probably cause of all the years I spent as a super metalhead
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rushfan4
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 12:09 |
Big fan of both bands. I am currently entrenched in a Queen marathon. "There can be only one", but I choose both.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 12:03 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Sabbath !!! Can't stand Queen. |
Have you listened to Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, or you're judging on Greatest Hits or that kind of crap?
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This night wounds time.
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Earthmover
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 09:34 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Sabbath !!! Can't stand Queen. |
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Icarium
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 09:20 |
The T wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
No contest here. Queen were one of the first bands I truly loved. Black Sabbath were great and genre defining, but their music was not as varied, interesting or well-played as Queen's.
| Basically this. Also, one band had a singer with amazing musical and personal talents The other one had a singer with charisma. |
i would say Dio is as accomplished as Murcary, Rodgers (hushhh) is better then Ozzy . but Ozzy is the better character and iconic which Rodgers is not, also RIP Ronny and Freddy
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JyDavise
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 08:56 |
For me the best is Queen .
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: November 08 2012 at 04:27 |
Sabbath !!! Can't stand Queen.
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 11:08 |
thellama73 wrote:
No contest here. Queen were one of the first bands I truly loved. Black Sabbath were great and genre defining, but their music was not as varied, interesting or well-played as Queen's.
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Basically this. Also, one band had a singer with amazing musical and personal talents The other one had a singer with charisma.
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Bosh66
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 10:58 |
My "favourite band" changes by the day, but both these are bands I always come back to. Love them both and voted accordingly.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 17:47 |
thellama73 wrote:
No contest here. Queen were one of the first bands I truly loved. Black Sabbath were great and genre defining, but their music was not as varied, interesting or well-played as Queen's.
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Everything is said here. Zeppelin and Purple were better than Sabbath.
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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DiamondDog
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 11:37 |
Not particularly a fan of either, but for me, the obvious choice is Queen. Much more imagination and talent (IMO).
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 16 2012 at 05:23 |
It seems rather odd to compare two such dissimilar bands: Queen's influence on metal was for me pretty short lived (début album, Stone Cold Crazy, Brighton Rock) Sabbath's influence on metal was much more prescient and far reaching Queen boasted one of the best and most eclectic songwriters in popular music of the last 50 years (Mercury) Sabbath coined riffs that have become staples for an entire genre but wrote very few bona fide great songs that could survive being transferred outside the metal realm I like them both but for entirely different reasons
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Alitare
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Posted: October 15 2012 at 21:26 |
Josef_K wrote:
I own all 18 Black Sabbath albums on CD and 17 of them on vinyl (Forbidden was only printed in 1000 vinyl copies in 1995... haven't found one yet).
So that kind of speaks for itself. From Queen I own their debut album on vinyl and nothing on CD haha :D They're an incredible band though, I love the debut and also lots of songs here and there from their later albums. But Sabbath was, in all it's incarnations, one of the best bands I've ever heard. Every single song from every single album is an inspiring, interesting piece of art. |
Even Changes and Fluff and all that stuff from Tyr?
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