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Seyo
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Posted: March 08 2009 at 05:10 | |||
Hm, a tough one, let's see:
- Plima - Negdje na kraju u zatišju - Ugasila je plamen - Balada - Hej ti I am not taking any song off Modra rijeka album since I consider it whole artistic piece and do not listen any song individually.
Edited by Seyo - March 08 2009 at 05:11 |
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zicIy
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 23:23 | |||
one guestion for all exYu prog fans: your top 5 songs by INDEXI?
mine are: (not in order)
Snijeg Pade ...
Jutro
I Jos Deset
Sanjam
Modra Rijeka
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zicIy
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 01:18 | |||
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Seyo
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 03:02 | |||
I know Akademija, Disciplina kičme often played there. I was there only once about 1986, but there was no concert just a discotheque. Hm, while listening in a moment I thought "mm, this may even be put as Avant Prog..", but maybe not..?
I am checking with Xover Prog team (I gave them this link to myspace) if they agree, then I will add a bio of Dr. Spira. |
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zicIy
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 13:22 | |||
Seyo, i get it today - 2cd set of Dr Spira i Ljudska Bića titled "Arheološki Artefakti tehnofilskih civilizacija prošlosti ili Naučna fantastika kao umetnički žanr sa kraja dvedesetog veka"( "Archeologic artefacts of the technofile civilizations in the past or Science Fiction as the Art genre on the end of 20th century"). Dr Spira is great songwriter and it is crossower prog, no doubt . awesome crossover prog. Spira's music is like an huge palimpsest painting, pretty dark colored with his unigue sense of black humor. Spira is putting together and he separated different genres of progressive music on the same track(s). so you can heard Jaco Pastorius - like bass line with 80´s Frippy guitars, classic prog intros with these crazy girls choruses, Vd's wild drumming in battle with the old fashioned rhytm machine, and keys; beautiful voice of pop-singer Sladjana Milošević at one (of two on disc2) version of "Prvi Sneg", as aswell classic Prog track at all. or Coltrane-like sax with awesome Classical acoustic guitar and the flute parts in one song, etc. His lyrics are intelectual - this is a poetry - the underground poetry. also, Spira's music needs very active listens.
in this very moment, my fav songs are "Uvek isto zbogom" ("Always the same good bye")(disc1) and "Kung Fu Bojz (bioskop Partizan)" (" Kung Fu Boys /Partizan the cinema theatre/") from disc2 .
this 2cd set, (digitaly remastered in Trident & Wastelands studios, London), is Holy Gral of ex-Yu Crossover Prog, imho.
EDIT: as young kid, i was on his gig just once, in "Akademija" club in Belgrade. it was an very popular , underground style venue with that great atmosphere of '80s. alot of well know exYu bands were starts there (EKV for example). of course, my memories about that Spira's gig is too hazy for writing about.
more about Dr Spira's life and music - PA people can find at www.myspace.com/doktorspira
Edited by zicIy - February 21 2009 at 02:51 |
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Seyo
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 16:55 | |||
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Seyo
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:59 | |||
Good I have it in mp3, so we can later share our views about it and hopefully get him added here at PA.
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zicIy
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 07:59 | |||
Seyo, regarding Dr Spira's music re - issued in cd format, i find it on internet shop http://www.multimediarec.co.yu , that's 2CDset, which i already ordered! (you will understand why i can´t wait to heard the track titled "U 5 :15 za Rumu" )
Edited by zicIy - February 13 2009 at 09:18 |
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Seyo
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Posted: February 12 2009 at 03:11 | |||
Any more opinions on DR. SPIRA, apart from Zicly's?
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Seyo
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Posted: February 06 2009 at 04:57 | |||
Scented Gardens Of The Mind by Dag Erik Asbjřrnsen
Download in a MS help file format (click on "CHM" link) available at:
http://sgm.paullee.ru/index.htm This is a brief guide to European progressive rock from 1967 to 1980 with alphabetical listing of the bands by country and selected albums discography. It concentrates on the more obscure bands who are virtually unknown and is a valuable guide to collectors. I checked specifically the part on Yugoslavian bands and I must say the author is well-informed about the 1970s rock scene in Yugoslavia. Each band has a short biography and description of the style, which is followed by the list of essential LP records issued by 1980 (in certain cases up to 1982). Some minor typos of the names and titles should be corrected though, but perhaps to the non-South Slav reader it is not a big problem. Based on this part of the book only, I can recommend a read. |
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Seyo
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Posted: January 30 2009 at 02:18 | |||
Thanks, I'll check that version too.
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zicIy
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Posted: January 30 2009 at 01:59 | |||
Edited by zicIy - January 30 2009 at 02:28 |
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Seyo
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Posted: January 29 2009 at 07:26 | |||
OK, but mind you - "prog related" means "not truly prog" or "mainstream pop/rock with occassional prog elements". Dr Spira is anything but "mainstream"... if you agree. I mean, to put him side by side with Queen is not very useful. Perhaps even Crossover prog would be OK, which is "real prog"...
True, he started much earlier than New Wave - remember he penned a wonderful prog ballad "Prvi sneg" (was that Mellotron sound or any other keyboard in that atmospheric song?) for SUNCOKRET back in 1977...
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zicIy
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Posted: January 29 2009 at 04:55 | |||
Although Dr. Spira i Ljudska Bića went on the stage at the time of ex-Yu new wave movement, that music have just a little or even zero in common with new wave bands, imho. well, i think that´s the reason why Dr Spira weren´t get any commercial success at the time, but now original LP is priced about 200 euros here in Belgrade. the first song i´v been heard from him was an cover of one of Riblja Čorba's early hits - beautifuly maked in the manner of dark colored Prog, no question. so i stay with my opinion that Prog-related is the best place for Dr Spira & The Human Beings in PA. Edited by zicIy - January 29 2009 at 05:08 |
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Seyo
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Posted: January 29 2009 at 04:08 | |||
Dr. Spira several song samples available:
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Seyo
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Posted: January 29 2009 at 04:02 | |||
Taken from a web review:
"Radi se o vrlo kompleksnom djelu koje osim nekolicine new-wave skladbi ("Uvek isto zbogom", "Igrač na žici", Psyhoneurosis) sadrži i dobar dio ostavštine utjecaja kasnog sympho-rock, kraut-rock i akustičnog folk utjecaja na način vrlo blizak onome što će dvije godine kasnije daleko komercijalnije realizirati kratkotrajni beogradski projekt sastav Kozmetika. Tekstovi su vrlo ekspresivni s artističkim konotacijama koje su u nekim trenucima albuma vrlo blisko povezani s teatrom i filmom što je zbog same sofisticirane metode bio posve neuobičajen pristup ka tadašnjoj Yu novovalnoj sceni".
Translation:
"It (=Dijagnoza LP) is a complex piece of musical art which, apart from several new wave songs, contains a considerable amount of influences from the late symphonic rock, krautrock and acoustic folk in the vein similar to that realised two years later by another experimental short-lived Belgrade group, Kozmetika. The lyrics are expressive with art attitude, sometimes bearing connection with film and theatre which was rather unusual method at the Yugoslavian new wave scene of the day."
This means it should be definitely checked. Artistic side of new wave is surely present (Talking Heads, Gang of Four, Magazine). Prog-related at least, but let me listen to the second LP I just found recently, in order to be sure. (hm, the mentioned Kozmetika is also on my PA list but it is more into electronic music).
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zicIy
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Posted: January 29 2009 at 03:05 | |||
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Seyo
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 09:49 | |||
Hm, lucky you! I guess it is about age and experience. Vlatko actually learned from the 1970s giants...
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Seyo
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 09:47 | |||
Of course not! Step by step. I must admit I have not thoroughly listened to his only album "Dijagnoza". I need to revisit it in order to decide where could he fit (style/genre). I think recently this album was issued as CD remaster with some extensive bonus material. Need to check that too. I the meantime what would you say about his music style and where could he fit here at PA?? Thanks for suggestions.
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clarke2001
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 08:43 | |||
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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