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Slartibartfast wrote: Epignosis wrote: The T wrote:  I guess you've made my point. Of course we all need assault weapons in the supermarket! (lest that damn light-blue-wearing woman take too long to read soda's nutrition facts)  It's a picture of a Swiss militiaman.  Swiss men are to be trained for service at 20 and remain in reserves until 30.  They carry weapons everywhere and can keep their service weapon after age 30, only having the automatic capability removed. I think I understand why their cheese has holes. For those interested in the stats, Switzerland is one of the lowest ranking countries in the world in terms of murders. Look dude it is a small country.  I really don't think guns deserve any credit for the murder rate there.  I really think country size does. Nope.  The stat is weighted for population. We have major cultural issues to overcome before any violence is diminished here in the US.  Legislation won't really help this (and, as has been seen, can make it worse). I'm kind of thinking a diverse nation such as ours will never overcome our cultural issues, not that we shouldn't try to all get along. There's more than our diversity contributing to our problems though.

The T wrote:  I guess you've made my point. Of course we all need assault weapons in the supermarket! (lest that damn light-blue-wearing woman take too long to read soda's nutrition facts)

It's a picture of a Swiss militiaman.  Swiss men are to be trained for service at 20 and remain in reserves until 30.  They carry weapons everywhere and can keep their service weapon after age 30, only having the automatic capability removed.

For those interested in the stats, Switzerland is one of the lowest ranking countries in the world in terms of murders.

We have major cultural issues to overcome before any violence is diminished here in the US.  Legislation won't really help this (and, as has been seen, can make it worse).

I've heard that Hapenis is a warm gun, bang bang shoot shoot.

I'm on the side of prevention and I think not allowing guns outside of homes helps that goal, but maybe I'm wrong too. If guns are to be allowed, there have to be high standards, not of wealth, but of psychological well-being, to grant licenses. I think our disagreement is more a matter of degree. 

Slartibartfast wrote: The T wrote: You shouldn't be carrying a gun when you're drinking in a room full of drunk people who are probably also carrying guns...  What could possibly go wrong?

Robert, you have said it yourself in many times: this new generation of kids and youngsters think they can do everything, think they're entitled to everything, and are much less aware of the other person's rights than previous generations. You have talked about how in schools kinds cannot be made to feel sad or bad because of low grades, of how we teach everything but empathy (that last one is mine, but it's true). Now, giving free access to guns to un-empathetic self-absorbed people is the answer? That's the people who ina few days will benefit of freedom to access guns after all... 

Edited by The T - June 02 2010 at 12:41

Epignosis wrote: The T wrote: ^Yeah, alcohol and guns, fantastic combination.  Damn, should I not be owning a gun?

The T wrote: ^Yeah, alcohol and guns, fantastic combination.

Damn, should I not be owning a gun? 

Slartibartfast wrote: The T wrote: ^Yeah, alcohol and guns, fantastic combination.  Yeah, I'm thinking people should also be required to be dosed with LSD while using guns and alcohol.

I don't know if that would be much better. Maybe tranquilizers would work.

^Yeah, alcohol and guns, fantastic combination.