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Blacksword
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 16:17 |
JrKASperov wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Acid is a powerfull drug, but I dont think its affects the individual permenantly unless they have done an enormous amount over along period of time, OR the user is predisposed to mental and emotional anguish anyway. LSD can trigger the onset of schizophrenia in some users in that category, but this is apparently rare. |
There is just need of one example to disprove it, and my brother knows someone who has had chronic psychosis from a trip. So what you think is irrelevant, that LSD is dangerous is a fact.
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Agreed it's dangerous for some, and the same can be said of all drugs including alcohol. The difference with booze is that it kills over 30,000 people every year in the UK, but the powers that be deem that acceptable in the name of raising revenue.
If you spend much of your young years in the company of habitual drug users you can expect a casualty to emerge from the 'good times' eventually.
The best defence is indeed to leave well alone.
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JrKASperov
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 15:39 |
Blacksword wrote:
Acid is a powerfull drug, but I dont think its
affects the individual permenantly unless they have done an enormous
amount over along period of time, OR the user is predisposed to mental
and emotional anguish anyway. LSD can trigger the onset of
schizophrenia in some users in that category, but this is
apparently rare. |
There is just need of one example to disprove it, and my brother
knows someone who has had chronic psychosis from a trip. So what you
think is irrelevant, that LSD is dangerous is a fact.
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Epic.
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goose
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 15:36 |
danbo wrote:
Moderation, kiddies, always practice moderation.
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Absolutely (although it should be practise - my brain hasn't been addled, you see! )
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 14:18 |
...morever cacti miss in the list, cause mescalin is the synthetic and concentrated form of mescalin-containing cacti.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 13:40 |
Regarding the other plants, strange that no one quoted cacti. I never tried them.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 11:59 |
danbo wrote:
Moderation, kiddies, always practice moderation.
I enjoy a fine glass of ale every now and again. Coffee is another drug of choice, but as Bryan Ferry once said, "Love is the drug for me."
I don't use, but I believe marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, but smoking, in any form, is not good for the body. I'd like to see a mist styled inhaler for "medicinal" purposes. Any other drug is simply rolling the dice, IMHO.
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Yes, I agree. I have tripped a few times a long time ago in college, but I will probably never do it again. Been there, done that. No need to do it again. I have benefitted from it, but the power of the experience has worn off in terms gaining insights. I don't need the ride any more.
I do agree that pot is better for you than alchohol, but again in moderation (like once in a while, not multiple times a day).
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 11:41 |
Moderation, kiddies, always practice moderation.
I enjoy a fine glass of ale every now and again. Coffee is another drug of choice, but as Bryan Ferry once said, "Love is the drug for me."
I don't use, but I believe marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, but smoking, in any form, is not good for the body. I'd like to see a mist styled inhaler for "medicinal" purposes. Any other drug is simply rolling the dice, IMHO.
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 11:06 |
bluetailfly wrote:
mwb498 wrote:
LSD seems to have a very profound and permanent affect...at least for me. It almost seems like you can tell if someone has tripped before you even get to know them or ask them. It also seems like from that moment on you become wrapped up in a perpetual state of emotional narccicism, mania/depression, and paranoia. It ebbs and flows and often times you feel like Hitler...and often times Jesus...but eventually you relax and the cycle starts itself over. |
I don't believe LSD has a permanent affect at all (unless you trip day after day, thousands of times--and there are people who have done this!), and I know many people who have tripped and their behavior, post-trip, is identical to what it was before.
I have a feeling that if you think about the nature of your personality before you first tripped, you'll find that it's pretty much the same as it is now. It's just that the acid made you more aware of your psychological states than you were before.
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I would agree with your last paragraph bluetailfly.
Acid is a powerfull drug, but I dont think its affects the individual permenantly unless they have done an enormous amount over along period of time, OR the user is predisposed to mental and emotional anguish anyway. LSD can trigger the onset of schizophrenia in some users in that category, but this is apparently rare.
I believe LSD merely amplifies your senses, and exagerates aspects of your character until they can either appear hillarious or terrifying to you. You can have enormous profound and almost religious experiences on it. I have felt the rotation of the Earth beneath me before, indeed I have been able to stop the Earth turning too
I have been an alien, a rabbit and a woman - that was stranger than being an alien
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bluetailfly
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 10:53 |
mwb498 wrote:
LSD seems to have a very profound and permanent affect...at least for me. It almost seems like you can tell if someone has tripped before you even get to know them or ask them. It also seems like from that moment on you become wrapped up in a perpetual state of emotional narccicism, mania/depression, and paranoia. It ebbs and flows and often times you feel like Hitler...and often times Jesus...but eventually you relax and the cycle starts itself over. |
I don't believe LSD has a permanent affect at all (unless you trip day after day, thousands of times--and there are people who have done this!), and I know many people who have tripped and their behavior, post-trip, is identical to what it was before.
I have a feeling that if you think about the nature of your personality before you first tripped, you'll find that it's pretty much the same as it is now. It's just that the acid made you more aware of your psychological states than you were before.
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 10:48 |
oliverstoned wrote:
So turn on vaporisation it's so easier on lungs and throat!
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Those vapourisers are expensive and by all accounts you have to use twice as much gear to get the same effect. Is this true?
As for cookies and cakes, I could live with that I guess. However, there is something very appealing about the whole ritual of making and sharing a joint.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 10:13 |
So turn on vaporisation
it's so easier on lungs and throat!
Or just eat cakes!
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 05:34 |
Marijuana, I guess.
I can take or leave drink and anything else, although acid was a lot of fun, and I'm sometimes tempted to go out and do some more. I'm probably too old to enjoy it now. I've probably had too much going on in my life/head for a 'trip' to ever be pleasant or uncomplicated again.
I do need to quit the weed though. My chest aches, I cough like an asthmatic pit pony, and I cant remember a fu**ing thing..
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PROGMAN
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 04:32 |
Madness absolute Madness!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Mr. Krinkle
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:35 |
Alcohol, sweet jane and tobaco. i'll try some psychedelyc stuff later in m7y life.
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Arsillus
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:22 |
I have never touched any kind of drug and don't plan to ever in my life. Yet, I owe to drugs pretty much all the music I enjoy and making the Beatles a lot better.
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illustrated
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:21 |
Eddy wrote:
wooo! smooke that thing!. poppers are inhelents that Were extremmly common in the disco arena. it makes you feel like theres a orcistation of percussion in your head. THUNMP THUMP THUMP! its quite crazy i tell, you it lasta as long as slavia. there legal to buy anywhere exept united states, which is extra retarded! |
Well, I live in Canada.
But seriously, how bad are they for you?
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Eddy
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:09 |
wooo! smooke that thing!. poppers are inhelents that Were extremmly common in the disco arena. it makes you feel like theres a orcistation of percussion in your head. THUNMP THUMP THUMP! its quite crazy i tell, you it lasta as long as slavia. there legal to buy anywhere exept united states, which is extra retarded!
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ROCK GOD
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:48 |
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illustrated
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:44 |
goose wrote:
Any drugs that I'd particularly enjoy I wouldn't take regularly enough to call a "drug of choice". Mushrooms were pretty crazy and I've got some acid to take at some point. I guess then alcohol is my drug of choice, if only because it's the only one I consume at all regularly (no caffeine for me ) |
Well, yeah. I thought about that after I made the poll, and you're right... most people would obviously choose alcohol or marijuana because those are the drugs that most people do on a regular basis (aside from maybe coffee, or smoking... or chocolate).
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ROCK GOD
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Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:43 |
preety
i take pompoms aka hash
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