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Angelo 
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
 Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:52 |
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All for it, but I still have to see someone come up with an approach that works in practise. I've tried a few times, but so far haven't found the way. Forum threads are cumbersome because of limited search facilities, progfreak makes some collabs suffer from allergic reactions
 and M@X doesn't have time to build something into the site to track inclusion progress and rejections. But, by all means - if you have an approach that works, let's see if we can get it to do exactly that, work. |
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:32 |
The collabs Must add their reason for rejection or for addition, that work is already done when they evaluate a band
 .I suggest that they do a document when they put their argumentations about add or reject a band.
So, any member can see why they added x band or why reject x band.
i think we can do an excercise to see if works
And BTW this will add transparency over the teams elections of add or reject a bands.
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rushfan4
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66256 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:25 |
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I think that the endless threads are pretty minor in comparison to the number of bands that are rejected or added. I could be wrong, but I think that that would add a lot more work for the collabs to have to add their reason for rejection to every band. Especially, since most of the time the answer is "in my opinion they weren't prog enough". This is an oversimplification, but I think you see my point.
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:10 |
As you point, i think that it is actually necessary to post their reasons, so with this, we can avoid endless threads concerning a band that are added or rejected, specially for newbies Edited by zafreth - October 28 2008 at 17:11 |
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:04 |
I put the admins as the final instance for a Member or a Collab, Prog Reviewer or SC, that can say a word about the rejection or addition of a band.
Like the justice system of law
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rushfan4
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66256 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:03 |
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At the very least, I think that it is important that something is posted in the suggest new bands thread that tells the general forum the final status for a band. This happens many times, but not all of the time. I think that there are many suggest new bands threads where it is uncertain to the general forum what happened to a band. Unfortunately, when a band is added, not only does the band have to be added, but something would also have to be posted in 4 or 5 different threads in the various collaborator zones, and general forum. So the person, might have posted in the special collab zone that they added the band, and in the genre team threads that they added the band, and maybe even in the general forum under "Recently added bands", but nothing might have been posted in the original thread that suggested the band. I don't know that it is really necessary for the genre teams to have to post their reasons for rejecting the bands, but certainly they could (and generally usually do) respond to further inquiry by those who might question why they were rejected. |
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:01 |
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if you want i can do the veredict transcription and publish in a special thread
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group
Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 35748 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 16:58 |
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As long as it doesn't necessitate much more work. I have suggested that teams post their progress, decision, and make comments in the "Suggest New Bands" threads. It's not hard to do, but one has to be in the habit of doing it.
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 16:51 |
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Nice idea Zafreth. I don' think it needs Admin involvement though. I'm sure the SCs and team members could come up with a means of doing this. It's best if the current forum facilites can be used.
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 16:34 |
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As a regular user of the PA site i often see opinions about that X band are aprove and that other band are rejected from X team, but as the general mayority of members, we do not see a document that X team rejecead a band for x or y reasons or approve a band for x o r y reasons. I suggest that the admins should document the arguments in favor of aprove or arguments rejecting a band to be in PA, and publish that decision in some thread, that the mayority of the members we can read the arguments in favor of addition or rejection.
It can be like this:
XXXX team of PA of the veredict of add or reject x band we:
C O N S I D E R
In x month of the year 2008 zafreth, a senior member of PA suggest x band, he provide this with samples of music and a rudimentary biography to be added to PA, after he post this in the right thread, after that, a member of the team that evaluate the x band, answer in x month of 2008, that they take the x group and will evaluate in a time that no exceed four months.
Then the x team of PA evaluate the band and : Here the team can put the developemnt of the discussion in a general manner.
Then comes the arguments of pros and cons (specific) well written, well sustained and if a member want to do a particular vote.
R E S O L U T I O N
X o Y team, after we read and listen to samples of music of X band we decided the (adition) (rejection) of the aforemetion band in the following:
1.- We the x team after reading an evaluate x band we decided to addd or reject the x band because their fullfill or fail the requeriments of the general guidelines of PA.
2.- Make public this decision in the right thread of the forum.
3.- The member that suggest x band, can complaint to the admin team that evaluate this particular case in a time no longer than 15 days.
4.- The admin decision will stand and have no other action.
well hope that read it and suggest to admin team
Opinions, etc. Edited by zafreth - October 28 2008 at 16:47 |
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