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febus 
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 Posted: August 20 2007 at 10:19 |
 Morda wrote:
King Crimson is absolutely legendary - huge fan of ITCOTCK and Red. And Discipline, actually.
Incidentally, any recommendations for any post-Discipline KC albums? I've tried to get into some of the THRAK ones but haven't really managed it, I'll probably "get" them at some later point. |
Give one more chance to THRAK;  i gave up on 80s new wave KC back then, tried THRAK when it came out, and loved it dearly snce., especially, the first 4 numbers of the CD...very powerful!!!! that the new Crimson mixing with the old one; just perfect. ....a 5 star album for me.....even the FIRST one i reviewed here.
On the other hand, you can lve without THE CONSTRUKTON of LiGHT 
POWER TO BELIEVE is excellent too, but a few too metallic tracks with poor vocals, but that's just me!! 
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1800iareyay
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 09:41 |
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Power to Believe. I don't know if you'd qualify that as one of the THRAK ones but it's their best since Discipline. The live albums are always good. For Absent Lovers and B'Boom are the best (after the mighty Great Deceiver of course)
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Morda
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 09:36 |
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King Crimson is absolutely legendary - huge fan of ITCOTCK and Red. And Discipline, actually.
Incidentally, any recommendations for any post-Discipline KC albums? I've tried to get into some of the THRAK ones but haven't really managed it, I'll probably "get" them at some later point.
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pero
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 04:00 |
sircosick wrote:
febus wrote:
sircosick wrote:
I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so? |
Read my review; i am all with you, Sirco:!!!!!
ISLANDS is great!!!!!!!! and i haven't changed my opinion since 1972! a long time! |
Islands was my introduction to King Crimson. And still thinking it's a great album. The fact that's actually rated under the fourth star is a real shame. 
I'll read your review, BTW
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Finally someone with good taste. 
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pero
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 03:54 |
Zargus wrote:
I bought my last early KC album yesterday "Starless and bible black" now i gona start buy thiere more modern albums i got all stuff up to "Dicepline" what shuld i get next? I was thinking about the live album "Absent Lovers - Live in Montreal, 1984" since i dont got any live album yet. |
Don't bother with new stuff. Old one is good enough  .
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pero
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 03:50 |
micky wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
C'mon Micky, lets not be that way!
LTIA Rules! |
I love that album..... does anyone have a problem with Wetton's vocals on that album in particular. He is not the greatest vocalist ever.. but I didn't think they were bad on it. I know Raff thinks they are subpar on that one.
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What?? Wetton is fantastic vocal (ref. to Book of saturday), but if you want to know what would be if Hammil was KC singer listen to "Exiles" - David Cross
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pero
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 03:46 |
Man Overboard wrote:
King Crimson are in my permanent top 3 bands of all forever time. I'm dying to hear something new from them  |
Mine too, but yust the opposite I'm quite satisfied with old stuff (until USA)
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 23:38 |
Sckxyss wrote:
fuxi wrote:
I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing...  |
It's hard to describe a sub-par vocalist.. it's simply less pleasing to the ear. I think it's an aquired taste, since I used to hate it, and now my feelings are neutral. But, what he lacks in vocal ability, he more than makes up for in bass playing! |
If I could punch you right now, I would. 
Edited by Chameleon - August 20 2007 at 11:58
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cookieacquired
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 22:46 |
Lets us all join hands and rejoice for King Crimson
hooray
hooray
hooray
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sircosick
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 22:39 |
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I don't care too much for Wetton's voice. I prefer more Lake & Belew, though. But he's undoubtely a great bass player.
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The best you can is good enough...
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el böthy
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 21:10 |
No matter how many threads, polls, recommendations KC will ever get... it´s still not enough, keep em coming 
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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febus
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 21:06 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I don't think Wetton is sub-par at all... As a matter of fact, his voice has improved over the years, while usually singers go in the opposite direction. However, I am not too keen on his performance on LTIA, which features a lot of vocal parts that could've been sung much better by a more experienced vocalist. On SABB and especially "Red", Wetton's singing is much stronger and more expressive (I love his performance on "The Great Deceiver"). It's quite clear that, when he first joined KC for LTIA, he wasn't used to singing lead, and his vocals suffer from the comparison with Lake's.
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Exactly what i said in a previous thread  he was good! he got better and he is still great, just listen to his voice on ICON 1 + 2 or the last ASIA ''live in Tokyo'' .......so POWERFUL!!!
Hope he comes back healthy!
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Raff
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 20:34 |
I don't think Wetton is sub-par at all... As a matter of fact, his voice has improved over the years, while usually singers go in the opposite direction. However, I am not too keen on his performance on LTIA, which features a lot of vocal parts that could've been sung much better by a more experienced vocalist. On SABB and especially "Red", Wetton's singing is much stronger and more expressive (I love his performance on "The Great Deceiver"). It's quite clear that, when he first joined KC for LTIA, he wasn't used to singing lead, and his vocals suffer from the comparison with Lake's.
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Sckxyss
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 20:10 |
fuxi wrote:
I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing... |
It's hard to describe a sub-par vocalist.. it's simply less pleasing to the ear. I think it's an aquired taste, since I used to hate it, and now my feelings are neutral. But, what he lacks in vocal ability, he more than makes up for in bass playing!
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tszirmay
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 19:36 |
[QUOTE=febus]Yes, very uncommon for a woman; i brought my wife to a CRIMSON concert in 95 at the time of the double trio; she had to leave halfway, couldn't stand the ''Bang--Bang''
Edited by tszirmay - August 19 2007 at 19:37
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Evans
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 17:44 |
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I agree with the guy who said that King Crimson is prog's elite fighting force. They always come around when there is a need for something to shake the business around :)
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'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..'
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jimmy_row
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:41 |
sircosick wrote:
I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so? |
Beautiful album indeed! Just because it isn't abrasive and harsh doesn't mean it can't be on the same level as other KC albums (of course some fans will have an immediate gag-reflex to anything with this style)...The title track is one of the most evocative pieces I've ever heard (now if it wasn't for the dreadful "Ladies of the Road" it would be in my top 3 KC albums).
Perfect follow up to the (also) excellent Lizard...these two represent the two ends of KC's spectrum.
Edited by jimmy_row - August 19 2007 at 16:42
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sircosick
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:36 |
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The best you can is good enough...
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sircosick
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:33 |
febus wrote:
sircosick wrote:
I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so? |
Read my review; i am all with you, Sirco:!!!!!
ISLANDS is great!!!!!!!! and i haven't changed my opinion since 1972! a long time! |
Islands was my introduction to King Crimson. And still thinking it's a great album. The fact that's actually rated under the fourth star is a real shame. I'll read your review, BTW
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laplace
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:20 |
sircosick wrote:
I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
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I'll read your review to find out exactly what you and other people see in the other album. to me, a "gentle" King Crimson album is just a waste of time - being a big fan of their subsequent era, if I came to review it, I'd give it a one.
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